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Is Earth better off with or without humans?
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I have a great reason why we are here but this is in the wrong forum for that post.
If it wasn't for that reason then I'd say without.
Earth will eventually be without humans in some million years and then it will still be there and evolve further for a new dominant species or subphylum.
And I think the simple and complex purpose of Earth is to beget life.
And as some man said some years before:
Human subtlety will never devise an invention more beautiful, more simple or more direct than does nature because in her inventions nothing is lacking, and nothing is superfluous.
This could easily be a thread by waloshin.
And I think the simple and complex purpose of Earth is to beget life.
And as some man said some years before:
Human subtlety will never devise an invention more beautiful, more simple or more direct than does nature because in her inventions nothing is lacking, and nothing is superfluous.
This could easily be a thread by waloshin.
Earth would be better off without Humans.
BTW, the poll doesn't give you this option. Are you drunk, Frisco?
BTW, the poll doesn't give you this option. Are you drunk, Frisco?
You could always observe the effects from a distance.
OP, what do you mean about "Earth". Other life on Earth? The planet itself? Define "better off". Different? More diverse? Less polluted?
The earth has no purpose, it just is.
The poll choices are not distinct and make no sense.
I'm going to think on this and come back to vote.
my gut tells me without- but without me I'm not typing this.
But, man is killing mother earth- and it is so sad.
my gut tells me without- but without me I'm not typing this.
But, man is killing mother earth- and it is so sad.
I hate to be Captain Obvious, but the Earth is not an entity, a Mother, or something that has a soul. Its just a planet. We live on it.
I think that, in this respect, Earth would represent life other than humans that live on this planet.
Do you know something that you're not telling us?
I would have thought the entire premise of the thread would depend on one's definition of "better off"?
I never thought so, but to be sure we are all part of this organism. Somehow I think it's all linked together. And like some SF movies, we are the cancer. The lesser animals can't make DDT or PCB or the thousands of poisons we manufacture daily to make our lives "better".
We are the destroyer of worlds.
You'll see.
Earth doesn't care. Humans or no humans, she'll adapt and heal and overcome whatever we throw at her...
This whole "Save the planet" movement isn't about Earth, it's about us...it's actually kind of a selfish concept, and that's coming from a liberal. Earth will survive anything next to the sun going nova...
This whole "Save the planet" movement isn't about Earth, it's about us...it's actually kind of a selfish concept, and that's coming from a liberal. Earth will survive anything next to the sun going nova...
Without humans, the earth wouldn't have to deal with pollution, but in certain cases it needs us, (I'm not saying we could do this now) but if a giant asteroid was coming to earth, sometime in the future we would probably be able to stop it from hitting the planet.
Maybe, but first we should learn how to plug a leaking pipe.
Where the hell is MacGyver?
With.
Although Earth will do just fine without us or despite our worst efforts to ruin her, I believe that Humans can have a slight beneficial effect if we put our minds to it.
At the extreme, someday we may have the capability of re-routing an imminent Asteroid or Comet strike.
Last time one hit, there were no Sentients capable of doing anything about the impending disaster.
Next time, maybe we as Humans will be able to do something about it.
Have Fun,
Keri
Although Earth will do just fine without us or despite our worst efforts to ruin her, I believe that Humans can have a slight beneficial effect if we put our minds to it.
At the extreme, someday we may have the capability of re-routing an imminent Asteroid or Comet strike.
Last time one hit, there were no Sentients capable of doing anything about the impending disaster.
Next time, maybe we as Humans will be able to do something about it.
Have Fun,
Keri
I've collected more of my thoughts and what I am suggesting is along the line of some of your questioning. Notions of better off or worse off are humans...without humans nothing is better or worse off as they are the ones that define these concepts. does that make sense.?
He is in hell.
Now everything is McGruber, but he is too busy working for BP now.
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Depends on your definition of "better off".
I can see the argument as "the world would have a more diverse ecosystem if no humans were here" or "the world would have less pollution or non naturally occurring chemicals and compounds if no humans were here". But perhaps your reasoning is more viable in that, without humans, the notion of "better off" is meaningless.