I'm just wondering whether we'll see iOS 5 released before this supposed apple event. If not does anyone have a vague idea as to when we can get our non-developer hands on it?
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Is iOS 5 going to be released before or after the iPhone 5 Apple Event?
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usually its after, im sure they will go over more features during the conference.
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I think it'll be out before or at the event, especially if the GM is out Friday or some time next week.
Depends on whether we see a GM get released soon or not. If the GM isn't released by the end of next week, then I think we'll see the GM get released at the event. But if we do see a GM release in the next week, then I think we'll get the public release on the day of the event (after Cook announces the IOS 5 stuff that wasn't announced by Steve in June).
well if we get no updates for iCloud beta, Lion 10.7.2, iWork, iOS 5 this week than I think we will see them GM soon for sure 
Apple have never released a GM for iOS before an event, so the chances of a GM this week are minimal. Then again, this year has been different, so things can change.
As you said.. This year has been different. For all we know they are planning on a public release the same day the event takes place.
Well considering the event is rumored to occur in early October, a GM release this week or next week could put a public iOS 5 release in the same time frame as GMs usually take a week or two to be pushed out publically.
Wait...
By this do you mean anyone (not developer) could download it? Could you please explain more about how this would work?
The GM doesn't require an activated UDID to use but it's piracy which is illegal so it shouldn't be discussed any further.
Yea, i was kind of covering myself a bit there. I highly doubt GM will come out before the event. GM will be final code, so there could be the code for the Nuance tech, which is something that's not announced, Apple will want event to announce that.
GM's take a week or 2 to be pushed out publicly? what do you mean? as GM's are technically only for dev's, not for the public, so why would that have any bearing on public release?
GM doesn't require UDID to be registered, so if you can get a copy online, you can update to it with no worries.
Except it's piracy which is illegal.
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I meant pushed out as the final release.
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Who knows, it could be a feature they are reserving for 5.x.
I never said it wasn't, nor was i encouraging. was just answering the question....
well GM isn't always the same as what get's public release. Game Center for 4.0 is an example. They're 2 seperate releases, just one is to Dev's only, then the public release is another seperate thing, it's not really stages like you imply....
Nah, it has to be for a big release, it could be for the new device only, but there could still be hints of the code in final release of iOS. The reason it would have to be for a big release is due to it being such a heavily integrated feature. it's not some random bolt on....
There's not much logic to releasing it before an event. At the event, it will be discussed as part of the new device, recap features mentioned before and any new features they've been hiding. then say it's available to dev's later that day.
I'd love to see it out before the iPhone 5 release, but I except it will come out a day or two before par usual.
Well you said you could update to the GM without worries. W/e, np.
More often than not, the GM is USUALLY the same build. Off the top of my head, I think 4.0 and 4.3 were like that.
Not really sure. So far it's just speech to text and should work with any device that has a microphone built in or can utilize headphones with a microphone.
Yea as in if he chose to go down that route, he won't lock out his phone from the UDID. Nice to see you read far too much into what i said tho
nope, 4.0 was different due to Game Center. The whole point of GM coming out prior to public launch is a last phase of bug testing, thus why Game Center got pulled, as it obviously wasn't ready for public use.
Wow, you really don't understand how much integration it would actually involve! It's not as simple as that lol.
you're just not thinking logically here. Makes no sense to release GM prior to an event.
I believe that GM will come this Friday.
Invites on 27th/28th
Event on October 4th/iOS 5 release.
October 7th - iPhone 5 release.
I say the iPhone 5 has to come out on the 7th because the Sprint vacation block ends on the 15th.
I know Apple doesn't "usually" cut it this close....but the iPad 2 came out a mere 9 days after announcement...iPhone 5 could certainly come 3 days later because it seems that they are prepared.
Invites on 27th/28th
Event on October 4th/iOS 5 release.
October 7th - iPhone 5 release.
I say the iPhone 5 has to come out on the 7th because the Sprint vacation block ends on the 15th.
I know Apple doesn't "usually" cut it this close....but the iPad 2 came out a mere 9 days after announcement...iPhone 5 could certainly come 3 days later because it seems that they are prepared.