iPhone 11 is iPhone 11 series the most solid fone after the iPhone 6s series

supertiffany

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it was during the iPhone 6s series that made the iPhone the king of smartphones

it was during the iPhone 6s series that introduced:

1. bigger screens (it was the 6 but the 6s were more reliable in durability)
2. better (longlasting for the 6s plus, also same with the 6 series, 6s were more reliable) battery life
3. double sized ram
4. more than twice megapixel size jump
5. first 64 bit chip iphone
6. 3d touch

this fone not only repaired the problems of the past iPhones, but it was revolutionary for a phone to pack all those features or upgrades in a single release.

in fact the iPhone 6s series together is the oldest fone you can recommend someone to use and is still snappy and fluid

after the 6s, understandable since that fone is iPhones biggest upgrade in terms of reliability and performance, had kind of went downhill. The rehash design from 7 to 8, removal of headphone jack, and that almost $1000 iPhone X, slowed the upward climb. Competition got stronger, the lack of big upgrades while keeping the price much more expensive turned off customer.

But, the XR, was a huge hit, offering flagship and solid features with a lower price.

The iPhone 11 even got a lesser price than the least expensive iPhone XR, and now not even them were expecting that the base iPhone 11 is selling faster than they forecasted to be

is iPhone 11 the most important and biggest upgrade in iPhone launch history ever?
 

supertiffany

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The question is subjective and is rather meaningless, when it comes to personal buying decisions.
not when you think of the people holding up to their old 6s series because not much has change to 7, 8 and X (the new screen/look isnt enough reason upgrade), same with XS/XS max getting almost minor upgrade of features from the X series

making XR a huge hit because of the price, the 11 took it higher with even offering lower price and still getting the best features of the more expensive models (ultrawide angle, dolby atmos, deep fusion)
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iPhone 8 series are the king of the hill
thats their floppiest iPhone release after the 7 and quickly overshadowed by the X. it even got bigger price cut just to move its sales.
 

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not when you think of the people holding up to their old 6s series because not much has change to 7, 8 and X (the new screen/look isnt enough reason upgrade), same with XS/XS max getting almost minor upgrade of features from the X series

making XR a huge hit because of the price, the 11 took it higher with even offering lower price and still getting the best features of the more expensive models (ultrawide angle, dolby atmos, deep fusion)
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thats their floppiest iPhone release after the 7 and quickly overshadowed by the X. it even got bigger price cut just to move its sales.
So? They (iPhone 8 series) were and still are solid phones, i also have one. I jumped from the 6s to the 8 Plus last year and it was an amazing upgrade. Yes, the 8 series was overshadowed by the X, but you could say the same thing about the 6 and 6s when they were released. 6 and 6 Plus sold 220 million units combined, 6s and 6s Plus 13 million. 6 and 6s basically looked identical, so did 7 and 8. They all had similar designs from 2014 - 2017, until the X changed that.

That doesn't indicate that the 6s was a bad phone, the 6s was an amazing iPhone for the time and the 6 done right.
 

Daniel James

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I love my iPhone 11, but at the same time I really liked my iPhone SE.

It comes down to personal preference. I’d argue the 7 & 8 we’re just as good if not better than the 6s. In fact technologically speaking there are for a fact.
 
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I think the improvement from iPhone X to 11 is marginal. The only real revolution is the camera in the 11 pro models.

So to me the most impressive iPhones were the ones which offered a big step forward

iPhone 1
iPhone 3G
iPHone 6
iPhone X

That isn't to say the iPhone 11 Pro isn't the best iPhone. The best iPhone is always the latest iPhone. But the 4 models above represented significant breakthroughs that placed Apple as the market leader.
 
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I think the improvement from iPhone X to 11 is marginal. The only real revolution is the camera in the 11 pro models.

So to me the most impressive iPhones were the ones which offered a big step forward

iPhone 1
iPhone 3G
iPHone 6
iPhone X

That isn't to say the iPhone 11 Pro isn't the best iPhone. The best iPhone is always the latest iPhone. But the 4 models above represented significant breakthroughs that placed Apple as the market leader.
Agreed.

The iPhone 11 is really an "XR Facelift". Although a very good one at that, but it didn't shift the game like other iPhones. It's no more solid than the XR was a year before it.
 

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not when you think of the people holding up to their old 6s series because not much has change to 7, 8 and X (the new screen/look isnt enough reason upgrade), same with XS/XS max getting almost minor upgrade of features from the X series

making XR a huge hit because of the price, the 11 took it higher with even offering lower price and still getting the best features of the more expensive models (ultrawide angle, dolby atmos, deep fusion)
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thats their floppiest iPhone release after the 7 and quickly overshadowed by the X. it even got bigger price cut just to move its sales.
I had the 6S before I moved to the X and it was a huge upgrade. 6S was a great phone but camera wasn’t anything to brag about (no OIS) and battery life was marginal. A11 was a giant leap over the A9 in cpu/gpu performace and efficiency. iPhone 8 was the best version of that form factor by far unless the headphone jack is important to you. I still have my 6S as a backup in case something happens to my X
 

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iPhone 8 series are the king of the hill
iPhone 8 is the best iteration of the previous generation of iPhones, but it will get its life cut short quite prematurely due to its 2GB of RAM.

It’s akin to the iPhone 5, the best iteration of 32bit iPhones, but its life got cut “short” quite prematurely due to Apple dropping 32bit support. I say prematurely because the iPhone 5 still performs well on iOS 10, and it has 1GB of RAM, same amount as the iPhone 6. But iOS 11 dropped it due to 32bit.
 
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I think the improvement from iPhone X to 11 is marginal. The only real revolution is the camera in the 11 pro models.

So to me the most impressive iPhones were the ones which offered a big step forward

iPhone 1
iPhone 3G
iPHone 6
iPhone X

That isn't to say the iPhone 11 Pro isn't the best iPhone. The best iPhone is always the latest iPhone. But the 4 models above represented significant breakthroughs that placed Apple as the market leader.
iPhone 4? Retina screen, first really desirable glass-stainless design, considerably faster than the 3GS, FaceTime, really big improvements in iOS 4. Felt like that really was the breakthrough model to me. The point at which iPhone truly became the offering for competitors to beat.
 

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I think it was last year's Xs that is the reliable version of the X (as 6s was the one for 6).
11 (Pro) is like the iPhone 7 - new camera specs on front and back, new design (besides a new color), alongside with improved battery (actually, much improved), display, speakers and etc.

Quick answer: Yes. The iPhone 11 series is the next most solid iPhone after Xs (both are great).
 

KiraYamato

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What is a fone?
I was disappointed that he didn’t write Ifone instead of Iphone.
The OP is not from the U.S.

It should be clear to most, that the OP is referring to phone.
His English seems fine? And if you play sherlock holmes you will see he wrote ‘phone’ somewhere in that past. He obviously chose to go with the slang.
 

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Overshadowed for who? I know loads of people with the iPhone 8 series and they were top sellers and still sell well. Solid phones with very few issues.
OP has a point. iPhone 8 and 8 Plus didn't sell well at the release in fall 2017, but both 8 and 8 Plus sold really well in 2018 and 2019. To compete with the X model (too expensive for some), or with the Xr a year later.
 
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iPhone 4? Retina screen, first really desirable glass-stainless design, considerably faster than the 3GS, FaceTime, really big improvements in iOS 4. Felt like that really was the breakthrough model to me. The point at which iPhone truly became the offering for competitors to beat.
This. The 4 was the biggest "upgrade" IMO
 

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OP has a point. iPhone 8 and 8 Plus didn't sell well at the release in fall 2017, but both 8 and 8 Plus sold really well in 2018 and 2019. To compete with the X model (too expensive for some), or with the Xr a year later.
I was speaking generally, not just it’s first couple of months. The 8 series proved to be a very popular choice and much of that is due to the price I don’t doubt. It is a solid phone and continues to be at the close of 2019.

This goes some way to explain why phone sales are rather flat when a 2+ year old iPhone is still performing as fast as the day it was released. Mobile phones don’t seem to be the must have gadget on release that they used to be a few years ago.
 
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it was during the iPhone 6s series that made the iPhone the king of smartphones

it was during the iPhone 6s series that introduced:

1. bigger screens (it was the 6 but the 6s were more reliable in durability)
2. better (longlasting for the 6s plus, also same with the 6 series, 6s were more reliable) battery life
3. double sized ram
4. more than twice megapixel size jump
5. first 64 bit chip iphone
6. 3d touch

this fone not only repaired the problems of the past iPhones, but it was revolutionary for a phone to pack all those features or upgrades in a single release.

in fact the iPhone 6s series together is the oldest fone you can recommend someone to use and is still snappy and fluid

after the 6s, understandable since that fone is iPhones biggest upgrade in terms of reliability and performance, had kind of went downhill. The rehash design from 7 to 8, removal of headphone jack, and that almost $1000 iPhone X, slowed the upward climb. Competition got stronger, the lack of big upgrades while keeping the price much more expensive turned off customer.

But, the XR, was a huge hit, offering flagship and solid features with a lower price.

The iPhone 11 even got a lesser price than the least expensive iPhone XR, and now not even them were expecting that the base iPhone 11 is selling faster than they forecasted to be

is iPhone 11 the most important and biggest upgrade in iPhone launch history ever?
The 6s was NOT the first iPhone with a 64 bit chip. The A9 in the 6s was the third generation 64 bit CPU after the A8 in the 6 series and the A7 in the iPhone 5s.
 

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it was during the iPhone 6s series that made the iPhone the king of smartphones

it was during the iPhone 6s series that introduced:

1. bigger screens (it was the 6 but the 6s were more reliable in durability)
2. better (longlasting for the 6s plus, also same with the 6 series, 6s were more reliable) battery life
3. double sized ram
4. more than twice megapixel size jump
5. first 64 bit chip iphone
6. 3d touch

this fone not only repaired the problems of the past iPhones, but it was revolutionary for a phone to pack all those features or upgrades in a single release.

in fact the iPhone 6s series together is the oldest fone you can recommend someone to use and is still snappy and fluid

after the 6s, understandable since that fone is iPhones biggest upgrade in terms of reliability and performance, had kind of went downhill. The rehash design from 7 to 8, removal of headphone jack, and that almost $1000 iPhone X, slowed the upward climb. Competition got stronger, the lack of big upgrades while keeping the price much more expensive turned off customer.

But, the XR, was a huge hit, offering flagship and solid features with a lower price.

The iPhone 11 even got a lesser price than the least expensive iPhone XR, and now not even them were expecting that the base iPhone 11 is selling faster than they forecasted to be

is iPhone 11 the most important and biggest upgrade in iPhone launch history ever?
Yes I would have to agree.

My iPhone 11 Pro feels like a work horse. Wish it wasn't so ugly but hey I still love it.
 

FlippyGonnaSnap

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The greatest ever iPhone relative to the time of its release has got to be the 4. I remember watching Steve Jobs announce it and it was simply jaw dropping, the latest and greatest from the rest of the competition looked extremely antiquated in comparison.

The 6S is a massive contender but more for its legacy, it’s incredible how popular it still is, I see then everywhere and carriers here in the UK are STILL selling them in contract.

The X is a strong contender as it was an iconic massive design overhaul, lead the way with new biometrics and control system with gestures when other manufacturers simply made the hardware buttons in to software buttons

Overshadowed for who? I know loads of people with the iPhone 8 series and they were top sellers and still sell well. Solid phones with very few issues.
It is a great device but it was massively overshadowed by the X and many people who did buy it, brought it because they couldn’t stretch the budget to the X.

It’s design in general whilst classic had really started to wear out it’s welcome. I mean even budget brands had started hopping in on the bezeless bandwagon
 
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