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Is British English acceptable in United States?

  • Yes

    Votes: 100 59.9%
  • No

    Votes: 21 12.6%
  • Sometimes

    Votes: 20 12.0%
  • I do not know what British English is.

    Votes: 7 4.2%
  • Why?

    Votes: 19 11.4%

  • Total voters
    167
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kabunaru, I must admit to being a little curious as to why you appear to have a bit of a chip* on your shoulder on this subject. Were you given a telling off a school by teachers who instructed you to adopt US-style spellings, per chance?

* Or 'fry', if you prefer American English.
 
i guess these threads, ALL created by you, dont satisfy your British English fetish
Stop nitpicking me. If you do not like it, do not post it here. Do not fill this thread with unnecessary links and stuff like that.
 
Stop nitpicking me. If you do not like it, do not post it here. Do not fill this thread with unnecessary links and stuff like that.

they are your links on the pretty much same topic

just like how we tell people not to post questions on iphones only having one speakers as they have been discussed to death. your links dealing with the same topic have been discussed many times before

why insist on creating threads that are the exact same but with slightly different meanings?

im really curious and do not mean to nitpick but really, are all these threads necessary?


If you read other posts, I'm not the only one who is curious about your obsession with this topic....
 
I'm not the only one who is curious about your obsession with this topic....

I am not obsessed but most of you guys sound mean and do not sound happy to reply to this thread. I think you guys like to judge and nitpick people and make people feel bad for your own pleasure.
I have asked a fair question and there is nothing wrong with discussing British English and American English.
 
I am not obsessed but most of you guys sound mean and do not sound happy to reply to this thread. I think you guys like to judge and nitpick people and make people feel bad for your own pleasure.
I have asked a fair question and there is nothing wrong with discussing British English and American English.

that could not be further from the truth

im just stating my curiousity with your fascination on this


anyways, back to topic i wont interfere with it anymore and look forward to reading your next thread on american vs british english lol
 
... On topic, would you ever use British English or Australian English?

Some of the U.S. churches won't read from anything except the King James Bible. And some rationalize its elusive use by saying "If it was good enough for Jesus then it's good enough for me!"

Does that count as using "British English"? :p
 
Because it is the closest accent to what William Shakespeare would have sounded like. ;)
Or so I have heard.

You are correct about that. Language and music too, tends to remain static when it's speakers are isolated. Language changes fast when it is in a "cross roads" area and it's speakers are in contact with many other cultures and changing times. So those Brits who came to America in the early 1700's and then ran West were mostly people trying to escape the authorities in England, indentured servants and the like. These people moved to some isolated parts of Appalachia. They took their language and their music with them.
 
Does that count as using "British English"? :p
Australian English: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_English:
It is interesting dialect of English as well. I call it "Flat English".
Maybe I should switch to Australian English. Hehe.
You are correct about that. Language and music too, tends to remain static when it's speakers are isolated. Language changes fast when it is in a "cross roads" area and it's speakers are in contact with many other cultures and changing times. So those Brits who came to America in the early 1700's and then ran West were mostly people trying to escape the authorities in England, indentured servants and the like. These people moved to some isolated parts of Appalachia. They took their language and their music with them.

So, if William Shakespeare was alive today, would he understand the British or Americans more easily (in terms of dialect of the language and accents)?
 
You are correct about that. Language and music too, tends to remain static when it's speakers are isolated. Language changes fast when it is in a "cross roads" area and it's speakers are in contact with many other cultures and changing times. So those Brits who came to America in the early 1700's and then ran West were mostly people trying to escape the authorities in England, indentured servants and the like. These people moved to some isolated parts of Appalachia. They took their language and their music with them.

You actually believe there are isolated pockets of people living in Appalachia that haven't had contact with the outside world since the 1700s? It's Appalachia, not the Rain Forest.
 
If you read other posts, I'm not the only one who is curious about your obsession with this topic....

What's the British English version of "I shave everything under my neck?" :D sry I couldn't resist.

The bottom line is that it makes no difference what style or dialect you speak - provided you are able to achieve the first goal of communication and makes yourself understood. Now, I feel a bit more strongly than that and think that you should do your best to use good pronunciation, good grammar, good syntax etc etc, but it doesn't matter whether you speak British English or American English or Pigeon English.

Whether you prefer the sound of one over the other, that's personal choice; Deciding to implement phrases or words from one or the other is your personal preference. If you do, just be aware that it may not be easily understood, and be prepared to have patience and repeat yourself.

Everything else is moot.
 
You actually believe there are isolated pockets of people living in Appalachia that haven't had contact with the outside world since the 1700s? .

I would like to believe there is. Unless Linguists with a Elizabethan English translator person talked with the locals and went through all the towns of Appalachians and truly confirmed there is no Elizabethan English still spoken then it is possible.
Until then, we cannot be 100% sure.
 
I would like to believe there is. Unless Linguists with a Elizabethan English translator person talked with the locals and went through all the towns of Appalachians and truly confirmed there is no Elizabethan English still spoken then it is possible.
Until then, we cannot be 100% sure.

Ah, the myths of Appalachia never die, do they? But then they won't as long as the folks who've never set foot in the region keep the myths going...

I live in the center of Appalachia. I'll be glad to take you to the mountaintop villages of the natives and to some of the many bars located "up the hollows" so that you can interview the locals and hear their colorful speech, and decide for yourself. But, such is not a journey for the faint of heart... ;)
 
I live in the center of Appalachia. I'll be glad to take you to the mountaintop villages of the natives and to some of the many bars located "up the hollows" so that you can interview the locals and hear their colorful speech, and decide for yourself. But, such is not a journey for the faint of heart... ;)

And I think they will sound like this singer in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ogWgRAAE5I

That is probably how an Elizabethan English/Shakespearean English speaker would have sounded like.
I can be wrong though.
 
And I think they will sound like this singer in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ogWgRAAE5I

That is probably how an Elizabethan English/Shakespearean English speaker would have sounded like.
I can be wrong though.

You'll get some elements of Elizabethan English turning up virtually anywhere. But trust me, no one here speaks anything near Elizabethan English, unless they're performing a play. Read the section, They Speak Elizabethan English in Appalachia, from the book, Word Myths, by David Wilton and Ivan Brunetti.

Such myths of Appalachia come from highly romanticized beliefs, and yet the written articles and reports that keep these notions alive are still common today.

Just a few months back I read an article written by a woman who'd visited the area. It seems that while walking through the backyard of a local she discovered strange round, green colored things on the ground a bit smaller than a baseball. The local quide explained they were walnuts (from a black walnut tree) and he then picked up a brick and cracked one open and offered her the chance to taste a walnut.

Following this "experience" the lady writer apparently did some "Internet research" because she later came to the conclusion in her article how this local was really practicing an ancient art that could be traced back the Cherokee Indians and probably back to the Mound Builders. The local man wasn't really really using just a brick -- he was using a "nutting tool" just like the ancients had done countless centuries before. And she then went on to explain how much she and others like her from civilization could learn from the seemingly simple folk of Appalachia who have somehow managed to keep ancient secrets such as these alive.

How do they know to crack a nut with a brick? How do they know it's safe to eat? It must be Zen! What else could explain it? Their eyes roll back into their heads and they're channeling the ancients when they crack a walnut. It's Zen I tell you!
 
You'll get some elements of Elizabethan English turning up virtually anywhere. But trust me, no one here speaks anything near Elizabethan English, unless they're performing a play. Read the section, They Speak Elizabethan English in Appalachia, from the book, Word Myths, by David Wilton and Ivan Brunetti.

Such myths of Appalachia come from highly romanticized beliefs, and yet the written articles and reports that keep these notions alive are still common today.

Just a few months back I read an article written by a woman who'd visited the area. It seems that while walking through the backyard of a local she discovered strange round, green colored things on the ground a bit smaller than a baseball. The local quide explained they were walnuts (from a black walnut tree) and he then picked up a brick and cracked one open and offered her the chance to taste a walnut.

Following this "experience" the lady writer apparently did some "Internet research" because she later came to the conclusion in her article how this local was really practicing an ancient art that could be traced back the Cherokee Indians and probably back to the Mound Builders. The local man wasn't really really using just a brick -- he was using a "nutting tool" just like the ancients had done countless centuries before. And she then went on to explain how much she and others like her from civilization could learn from the seemingly simple folk of Appalachia who have somehow managed to keep ancient secrets such as these alive.

How do they know to crack a nut with a brick? How do they know it's safe to eat? It must be Zen! What else could explain it? Their eyes roll back into their heads and they're channeling the ancients when they crack a walnut. It's Zen I tell you!

Appalachia is land/region of mystery to me.
By the way, what do you think of the accent in the video? Do you believe it is how young William Shakespeare would have sounded? :D
It also does not sound modern American or modern British.
I wish more people talked like this (with that accent in the video) today.
 
I don't think most people really care. That said, you may not want to use "aluminium" in conversation unless you want to confuse people. :p
 
Appalachia is land/region of mystery to me.

Appalachia is a bit of an enema. But much of its development was influenced by U.K. interests. Most of the older adults in the neighborhood I grew up in were either immigrants from the U.K. or they where born in the U.S. just a few short months after thier U.K. parents immigrated here. Most spoke with at least some degree of an English, Scottish, or Irish accent (with more accent variations within each group). Nearly all were professional people or highly skilled craftsman who either came to work in the local mining industry or successful entrepreneurs who came and invested in the region with the goal of building a fortune in mind. The U.K. had been mining coal for a good while, and had the expertise, etc.

By the way, what do you think of the accent in the video? Do you believe it is how young William Shakespeare would have sounded? :D
It also does not sound modern American or modern British.
I wish more people talked like this (with that accent in the video) today.

The singing and speaking parts in the video: The singer and actors precisely articulate their words but I have no idea of what manner of inflections were common in William's day... But because I can clearly hear the flute is a modern (metal) flute, rather than a recorder or a (wooden) transverse flute from the era, and clearly detect a modern guitar vs. a lute, I'm not really able to enjoy it as historically accurate rendition of a performance during the era. ;)

Personally, I like the "BBC English" voice, as well as the "Midwest American English" voice. The major differences between the two seem to be that the (BBC) British speakers use pitch variations to a greater degree, as a means of inflection.

I'd actually like to buy a good "BBC" voice for OSX that would complement the (U.S.) "Alex" voice in Leopard... Here's something to check out: Cepstral has some online voice synthesist demos --you enter text and can listen to different speakers saying what you're written. Try out some of the U.K. and U.S. English voices and see what you think. :)
 
i use Australian English spelling which is pretty much exactly the same as British English (except for a few words) here all the time. i assume people pick up on it.

when quoting a post with the words say "rumor" or "gray" for example i will always use the Australian spelling "rumour" and "grey". not to disagree or correct them or anything but just to show that i am proud of my language and that will always use it. if i ever live in the US i will continue to use Australian English even if i pick up the American Accent.

if someone uses American English spelling here in Australia but they are actually Australian usually someone will usually pick up on it and correct them as we are very proud of our language and our English heritage (even tho we poke fun at the most of the time - in humour :p). but if they are American we would be perfectly happy with that as its their heritage.

same goes for pronunciation of words and letters especially the letter "z". Australians and British pronounce it as "zed" while Americans pronounce it as "zee". this is probably because of the popular American kid shows that were around where they used to sing the alphabet.

I don't think most people really care. That said, you may not want to use "aluminium" in conversation unless you want to confuse people. :p

hey! i use aluminium all the time. im not going to just stop the way i write just so others dont get confused. if someone cant recognise that as "aluminum" then ill be damned. its not like were are using an entirely different language. again this is not in arrogance or anger we are just proud of our language and heritage and will never stop using it.
 
... same goes for pronunciation of words and letters especially the letter "z". Australians and British pronounce it as "zed" while Americans pronounce it as "zee". this is probably because of the popular American kid shows that were around where they used to sing the alphabet.

Dunno about the American TV theory -- this article blames the (American) "Zee" pronunciation (first) on British influence, and (later) Noah Webster -- both of which predate the invention of the television by many decades.

"One of those names is zee, a dialect form last heard in England during the late seventeenth century. That name was brought to America by British immigrants, perhaps not on the Mayflower but very early indeed in American history."
 
I'll tell you, it took me ages to find this site, initially.

I tend to use Scottish / English, which is a whole other ball game.

"ken what a mean"
 
Being Canadian, I use a mixture of the two. British English for most common words, but I say "aluminum" instead of "aluminium" and spell the hormone as "estrogen," not "oestrogen." Some other scientific spellings can differ too... I prefer "eukaryote" to "eucaryote"... hmm... both of which are apparently incorrect according to Firefox. :) No, I did not mean "Karlotte"... ugh.
 
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