Is it just me, or is True Tone a negative?

[44267547]

Disagree!! I didn't liked it and turned it off immediately while setting up

What are you disagreeing with? I answered another forum members question asking why others prefer Tru-Tone?. I was implying it's functionality or it what it does. No one has to use it, it can be disabled.

For reference: Again, Here is what I quoted.

They prefer it because it corrects the white point on the display and makes images/text appear appear more natural .

 

[Alexander.Of.Oz]

I guess it all depends on what you use your iDevice for, if you do a lot of reading you'll love it, as it is so much easier on the eyes, however, if you want colour accuracy for viewing images, you'll end up turning it off, so you are not experiencing wild colour shifts as you move through different light environments.

Comparing the colour replication to my colour balanced monitor, it's a much closer match for viewing images when True Tone is turned off.

 

[bbowser12]

If your True Tone is showing as negative (see attachment), then there is something wrong with your phone. It should just balance out the colors, not flip them. /s

 

[Americasteam]

I love it and think it makes a huge difference in display quality.

 

[jettie1767]

I like TrueTone. It reduces eye strain for me.

 

[blackberrycubed]

give it a week and you will either adapt to it and love it OR hate it and permanently turn it off.

 

[204353]

I guess it all depends on what you use your iDevice for, if you do a lot of reading you'll love it, as it is so much easier on the eyes, however, if you want colour accuracy for viewing images, you'll end up turning it off, so you are not experiencing wild colour shifts as you move through different light environments.

Comparing the colour replication to my colour balanced monitor, it's a much closer match for viewing images when True Tone is turned off.

It automatically turns off in the Photos app. I guess apps can tap into that and disable it if needed? I presume photo editing and other colour-sensitive apps will do this, if they’re not already.

 

[narr]

Give your eyes some time to adjust. True Tone is excellent. Someone said „like a pillow for your eyes“.

 

[upandown]

It automatically turns off in the Photos app. I guess apps can tap into that and disable it if needed? I presume photo editing and other colour-sensitive apps will do this, if they’re not already.

I didn't know that. Very cool

 

[sean000]

Oh good. You're a photographer so than you'll understand this. https://www.anandtech.com/show/10265/understanding-the-97-ipad-pros-true-tone-display

True tone does correct white balance but it does not make colors more accurate.

Thanks for the link... it's an interesting article. I definitely would not want to edit photos with True Tone enabled in the app. That said in typical home lighting it's still probably no farther off than many uncalibrated displays out there.

The goal of correcting white balance is to remove a color cast. When our eyes/brains have adjusted to typical warm indoor home lighting, most electronic displays will appear to have a blue cast. True Tone appears to adjust color temperature (too warm/yellow vs too cold/blue). Of course that will not correct color. A photo or video with poor color accuracy will not be fixed. A photo or video with accurate color will have a slight cast as True Tone adjusts to warmer ambient light, but our brains compensate for that to some degree. Most people will never notice True Tone is on unless they toggle it off and on to see the difference. That said they might notice when it is off, because turning on a cool/blue display in a room filled with warm light has a jarring effect.

Apple has always done an excellent job of calibrating displays and supporting color fidelity and depth regardless of the originating color space/gamut. Most people watch movies on televisions that are pretty sloppy about color. They let you choose from various color modes depending on the content, and they are all pretty heavy handed and can result in movies that are too dark or too bright, or with colors that are far off from the original intent. I learned a long time ago that regardless of how much effort I put into adjusting skin tones and colors for the photographs I take, many people are going to view the photos on a display that renders those efforts slightly (but not totally) wasted. It's almost worse when someone prints one of my photos, because the printer used probably won't be very good quality and no paper profile will be used. This is why many photographers still make their own prints. It's the only way to ensure the colors are rendered in the final product as closely as you intend them to be. Even then someone might be color blind or might view the prints in poor lighting.

TLDR: I try not to worry about it too much. I'm not as much a color purist as some, and in fact many photographers and film directors deliberately produce colors that are not real-world accurate (going for a sytlized look to create a mood). I do this quite often. Yes we would prefer people view their work as intended, but these days that is going to be hit or miss since you can’t control everything. Even black & white are impacted by color cast on the display, as well as the brightness, gamma, and contrast. I appreciate Apple's efforts here, and True Tone does make for a more enjoyable experience. Yes it has an impact on color accuracy, but so many things can affect our perception of color. If you like it, don’t worry about it much. If you don’t like it, disable it.

Sean

 

[dan9700]

Its horrible i wont night mode opposite i want blue tone all the time i hate yellow tint the problem with all my ios devices is the yellow tint problem

 

[Alexander.Of.Oz]

It automatically turns off in the Photos app. I guess apps can tap into that and disable it if needed? I presume photo editing and other colour-sensitive apps will do this, if they’re not already.

At least that's a wise decision, now, if they could do that somehow automatically when you are viewing photo's on the web in forums, on facebook, Instagram, etc. they would be onto a winner!

 

[manu chao]

Oh good. You're a photographer so than you'll understand this. https://www.anandtech.com/show/10265/understanding-the-97-ipad-pros-true-tone-display

True tone does correct white balance but it does not make colors more accurate.

Stupid question: What colour (temperature) does True Tone pick when you use a device in a(n almost) completely dark room?

 

[Macalway]

looks great on an iPad

 

[MrGimper]

Looks great on my iPad Pro 10.5, but looks a bit too yellow on my 8 Plus.

Wish you could tweak it. I go back and forth between using it as I have blue-light-reducing lenses in my glasses, which obviously affect how the screen looks.

 

[sunlit]

I won't be using True Tone, I have Night Shift turned on 24/7.

Well, if you prefer distorted colors after paying premium for best color managed smartphone display, I say, choice is yours!

 

[TurboCoder2022]

I don't like truetone either but I really think it depends on your eyes. As our eyes age we tend to see more yellow naturally so perhaps trutone amplifies that effect. I prefer cooler tones personally so keep it turned off.

My thoughts exactly. Even though I'm 43, I prefer cooler tones and keep true tone turned off.

 

[Motionblurrr]

It makes other displays without it look cheap and too blue.

 

[TurboCoder2022]

It makes other displays without it look cheap and too blue.

I think the display with True Tone makes the display itself look too cheap and too yellow and too ugly.

 

[Motionblurrr]

I think the display with True Tone makes the display itself look too cheap and too yellow and too ugly.

Yeah nah, that blue-y look to displays looks super cheap. Reminds me of those early year cheap no name Chinese HDTVs 🤣

That’s why smart people take their TVs off of Vivid modes or Standard modes. Cinema and Movie modes are as close as you’re going to get to a calibrated look.

True Tone does this and keeps it that way in different lighting environments. No other company does it as nice as Apple. Discussion over. Lol

 

[sparksd]

Yeah nah, that blue-y look to displays looks super cheap. Reminds me of those early year cheap no name Chinese HDTVs 🤣

That’s why smart people take their TVs off of Vivid modes or Standard modes. Cinema and Movie modes are as close as you’re going to get to a calibrated look.

True Tone does this and keeps it that way in different lighting environments. No other company does it as nice as Apple. Discussion over. Lol

Discussion over? You're in charge?

I don't care for True Tone myself but it's a personal preference. And a personal preference does not equate to a universal truth.

The discussion can continue.

 

[Motionblurrr]

Discussion over? You're in charge?

I don't care for True Tone myself but it's a personal preference. And a personal preference does not equate to a universal truth.

The discussion can continue.

Sadly in the form of media (which is what the screen is used for) it does.

Calibrated screens tend to be more on the yellower looking scale than cold white or blue. “Preference” in this area, is just choosing the wrong setting on purpose because it looks kewl to you.

The reason is: all directors, content creators, editors, photographers, etc edit and use a color space that coincides with a calibrated screen. If you go online on a Mac and look at neon green shoes you want to buy for example; a calibrated screen will show you as close as possible (accurate!) what those neon green shoes will look like in person. You click buy and your shoes arrive, looking similar like the photo you saw online.

If you use a bluer looking screen to look at those shoes, those shoes would not look anything like they’d look like in person. You’d be defeating the purpose of what the screen is for lol. Same goes for movies, video games, etc. A dark scene or any scene in a movie should look a certain way, in the way the director intended. Going out of spec on purpose because of a presence nullifies the point of the media you’re consuming with your eyes lol. If the director wants to make the scene look contrasty and cold looking; they will change it accordingly but it will be with the warmer tone of the calibrated scene itself. It will still look different but it’ll be within the paradigm of a warmer screen. Does this make sense?

 

[sparksd]

Sadly in the form of media (which is what the screen is used for) it does.

Calibrated screens tend to be more on the yellower looking scale than cold white or blue. “Preference” in this area, is just choosing the wrong setting on purpose because it looks kewl to you.

The reason is: all directors, content creators, editors, photographers, etc edit and use a color space that coincides with a calibrated screen. If you go online on a Mac and look at neon green shoes you want to buy for example; a calibrated screen will show you as close as possible (accurate!) what those neon green shoes will look like in person. You click buy and your shoes arrive, looking similar like the photo you saw online.

If you use a bluer looking screen to look at those shoes, those shoes would not look anything like they’d look like in person. You’d be defeating the purpose of what the screen is for lol. Same goes for movies, video games, etc. A dark scene or any scene in a movie should look a certain way, in the way the director intended. Going out of spec on purpose because of a presence nullifies the point of the media you’re consuming with your eyes lol. If the director wants to make the scene look contrasty and cold looking; they will change it accordingly but it will be with the warmer tone of the calibrated scene itself. It will still look different but it’ll be within the paradigm of a warmer screen. Does this make sense?

Yes, I know this as I calibrate my screens for my photography - I have approx. 80K images - most originally shot in RAW - in my libraries. I just do not like True Tone on the iPad.

 

[StellarVixen]

The only thing I don't like is that it's not selective, for example it's still turned on when you are looking at photos or watching videos, and that really messes with color accuracy. Otherwise it's good feature.

 

[Motionblurrr]

Yes, I know this as I calibrate my screens for my photography - I have approx. 80K images - most originally shot in RAW - in my libraries. I just do not like True Tone on the iPad.

Ayyy hello fellow calibrator lol. I calibrate as a hobby, I’ve calibrated my friend’s TVs and stuff.

Oh I was talking about the iPhone True Tone in this case, I haven’t seen the iPad’s yet. If TVs could have something like True Tone and retain the calibration settings accurately in all lighting situations it would be a dream