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I may be the last person off this ship. But for any stragglers that find the wreckage of this conversation regarding this sunken boat of an operating system, these were our last words...

In a word, Mavericks sucks IF...you are operating on anything less than a 2011 MBP. There is no getting out of it. No MAC apologists can refute this, and no paid-by-the-company contractors who are paid to write positive reviews of their products (yes they exist) can refute it either. I have a 2.4 Ghz w/ 4 GB of ram.

My laptop was designed to run on Leopard, then Snow Leopard.

It is the OS that best runs my computer. Downloading Mavericks is like asking NASA to handle flying your RC plane in your backyard. It is overkill, will only lead to confusion and the complicated nature and structure of NASA's work would only slow down such a flight.

If Mavericks works for you on your latest iMac or recent laptop, good on yer. But to those like me who are happy with their old systems but always curious to see if they can get a little more speed, a bit more battery power - do not upgrade to Mavericks. It will be a decision you will regret. It will turn your beloved laptop into a basket-case dumptruck on the autobahn. And you will have to revert like I did. Which by the way, was one of the best days of my life to be free from the shackles of Mavericks. Oh what joy it was to have my computer boot up in under four minutes again! Back to my usual pre-Mavericks 30 seconds even! To have my 'Bounce' button back on Mail! It was a magical day...

So there you go. Final answer. Do not call a friend. Do not ask the audience.

DO NOT UPGRADE TO MAVERICKS.


Mavericks? What about Yosemite? My 2008 MBP (with 4GB ram) can run either one, it seems. Personally, I think Mountain Lion felt slower than Mavericks on the 2008 MBP. Really, I don't think Mavericks feels too bad on it considering, but I have noticed that Logic Pro is a bit slower (i.e. some songs that were close to 100% CPU use under Snow Leopard in real time now do trip up, but it's not like massively slower. It could be the ram thing. OTOH, I can run up-to-date software on it (e.g. I think Handbrake and XBMC stopped supporting Snow Leopard some time ago). I won't run Yosemite on it or my 2012 Mac Mini, though until they solve some of those horrible GUI issues (and I don't just mean "flat" but hard to look at) or until my software stops working (or rather updates to thereof).
 
Your not the last person....

Maybe the second last ... :apple:

As much as i do enjoy drumsticks ... u should try a clean install..... Half of most problems, are due to upgrades.
 
If Mavericks works for you on your latest iMac or recent laptop, good on yer. But to those like me who are happy with their old systems but always curious to see if they can get a little more speed, a bit more battery power - do not upgrade to Mavericks. It will be a decision you will regret. It will turn your beloved laptop into a basket-case dumptruck on the autobahn. And you will have to revert like I did. Which by the way, was one of the best days of my life to be free from the shackles of Mavericks. Oh what joy it was to have my computer boot up in under four minutes again! Back to my usual pre-Mavericks 30 seconds even! To have my 'Bounce' button back on Mail! It was a magical day...

So there you go. Final answer. Do not call a friend. Do not ask the audience.

DO NOT UPGRADE TO MAVERICKS.

I don't recall anything post-Snow Leopard can give a little more speed and a little more battery power, mostly thanks to the iCloud crap...
 
… sucks IF...you are operating on anything less than a 2011 MBP. There is no getting out of it. No MAC apologists can refute this …

So there you go. Final answer. …

Early 2009 MacBookPro5,2 here, not sucking.

Neither am I an apologist for Macs.
 
its nice. im trying to get use to it. I really am. they removed some things I liked in snow leopard like:

1. speed. snow leopard is much faster on my 2007 2.0ghz imac with 4gb ram. basic finder operations are slow... have a noticeable delay... duplicating files or folders, move files or folders to the trash... all have a delay now that snow leopard did not have. 4 second delay at least... this alone is the most annoying about mavericks. I did a clean install which helped. originally I installed over several other osx versions.
2. scroll arrows. gone.
3. when I opened the HD window, I could see how much space my disk had. that little thing I liked is gone.
4. delay when burning CDs from the finder. I have a folder in the finder, 2.7gb of files in it. when I choose "burn to disk". it takes about 4-5 seconds for the window to come up telling me to insert the disc. was 35 seconds until I did some tweaks to improve it.


the finder is the first program we all use on the mac. the finder I would expect to work perfectly, flawlessly. after a few weeks i'm still trying to decide if its worth keeping or should I go back to snow lep?

I liked snow lep. the only reason I considered upgrading is: one its free and two Im worried about snow lep security since its no longer being updated.

Mavericks feels like a beta to me, an unfinished work in progress.
 
2. scroll arrows. gone.
3. when I opened the HD window, I could see how much space my disk had

2. Theres a setting in System Preferences / General to set scroll arrows to always show.
3. Go to Finder menubar/View and click on Show Status bar. That will put a bar at the bottom of Finder window showing available HD space.

As for 1 & 4 - i don't have either of those delays
 
… finder I would expect to work perfectly, flawlessly. after a few weeks i'm still trying …

For Finder in Mavericks: almost without exception, if it appears to misbehave then it's a symptom of an issue elsewhere; not an issue with Finder itself.
 
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