Is it possible for the iPhone 5S GPS to be off?

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  1. BearsFan4Life88 macrumors member

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    Had to use Google Maps last night and the little blue triangle would not stay locked on the road. In the past, with Google Maps it would constantly follow me as I drive. It did not do that last night. This is a new iPhone 5S replacement. It seemed that it could not lock onto anything. I tried Apple's Maps and it was the same thing.

    Just performed a FULL factory reset and did not restore from a back up (which was a pain because I lost all my game scores) and it still is not resolved.

    While, the GPS navigation did follow me while driving on Apple's maps, it did not on Google. Google even said it is beta. I figured I would google how to calibrate the iPhone GPS. It said to do it with the compass, which I have done. Will test again later.

    I am just curious if the GPS inside the phone can be off, or defective?
     
  2. bwsteg macrumors 6502

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    I think location services is the GPS and you can disable it...
     
  3. BearsFan4Life88 thread starter macrumors member

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    I wasn't asking whether or not I can disable GPS. I need it. I am curious if it can be "off".
     
  4. inselstudent macrumors 6502a

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    Yea, it turns off to save battery. But it should stay on when you're using a maps app, so if it works with Apple maps, but not with Google maps, then it's probably a bug in the latter.
     
  5. BearsFan4Life88 thread starter macrumors member

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    You guys are just missing the entire point of my thread.
     
  6. I7guy macrumors G5

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    If it works with apple maps but not google, sounds like a software issue. However it is possible for a defective gps chip to be off or maybe a bad antenna.
     
  7. BearsFan4Life88 thread starter macrumors member

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    When you use Google Maps and are driving, does it stay locked on the road and move continually?
     
  8. I7guy macrumors G5

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    I don't use google maps, I use another gps program, not apple maps. On answer to your question the gps app locks onto the route.
     
  9. cynics macrumors G3

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    I7Guy is nailing it. Both apps should be as accurate as each other. While in nav both lock onto the closest road (within reason).

    Let me ask though. Have you recently moved? Do you have location services turn on for Google maps (other means are inaccurate namely wifi)? Any other random problems with the phone especially anything to do with the time/clock regardless how insignificant?
     
  10. BearsFan4Life88 thread starter macrumors member

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    Location services are enabled. I just tried another GPS program and it does the same thing. It drifts off the road and is lagging. It will move, then stop for 10 seconds, then move or completely put me off the road.

    Time Zone settings seem fine. But this definitely not normal behavior. I was thinking maybe it was Google Maps. The little GPS thing that moves just is going all over the place and does not want to stay on the road.
     

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  11. BearsFan4Life88 thread starter macrumors member

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    So I'm gonna call Apple. Maybe they have some solution. I just have never seen this issue on an iPhone.
     
  12. gnasher729 macrumors P6

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    Of course it can be defective. And inside a car, bad weather (lots of clouds), high buildings, tinted windows, being far away from the windscreen, possibly defective parts in the car producing electronic noise, can stop it from working. Metal protection case for the phone could stop it from working.
     
  13. BearsFan4Life88 thread starter macrumors member

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    On my old 5S it was perfect in the same car and same case.
     
  14. bigcstyle4 macrumors 6502

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    By any chance was the phone plugged in to a built-in USB port on your car? This same exact thing happened to me last weekend on a loaner iPhone 5 but only when plugged into the car. Google Maps would just give you the large blue circle and couldn't really track you when navigating. As soon as it was unplugged, the GPS signal returned.
     
  15. BearsFan4Life88 thread starter macrumors member

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    It was plugged in but it does the same thing when it's not plugged in. It just can't properly track where I'm at. It's delayed and can't lock on the road. And I know it should because my old 5s did just fine.

    Now Apple is gonna think I'm a nitpick because I can't prove this unless they were in the car with me.
     
  16. BearsFan4Life88 thread starter macrumors member

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    When using the Apple maps it seems much better. The tracker still occasionally goes off the road. I just need someone who uses Apple maps to confirm that the tracker loads about every 3 seconds? Is that normal? Or should it just smoothly sail along the road when you drive?
     
  17. mofunk macrumors 68000

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    Try restoring your iPhone? Sounds like what you are describing is software issue. I haven't had any issues with mine.

    If you have a friend that has GPS in car or a GPS device, ride along with them and compare your results you get on your phone. Or borrow a friend's mobile phone and see if it's happening to them too.
     
  18. BearsFan4Life88 thread starter macrumors member

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    Already restored the phone. GPS is always the same. Seems better in Apple Maps. Idk maybe I'll test it some more.
     
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    I would go to apple and explain to them what's going on. They could tell you if there is an issue with the components etc
     
  21. iolinux333 macrumors 68000

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    I've seen this behavior for many years with all sorts of phones and all sorts of operating systems, including standalone GPS units. I think it mostly has to do with the satellites being in weird positions, some of the satellites being offline occasionally, and very often weather or terrain. Some GPS software deals with these anomalies better than others and the issue usually goes away after a few hours or a few days. I've seen it on several iDevices too, including my 5 and my 5s.

    There's a website somewhere that gives you operational status of the GPS satellites and they're often messed up.
     
  22. BearsFan4Life88 thread starter macrumors member

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    Makes sense. The phone works perfectly fine, other than that. I may hold off for a while. Maybe it will be better next month. I do not use GPS often enough to really care. It was just frustrating because the GPS tracker could not keep up with me. That, and it kept bouncing around everywhere. I wish there was a way to properly calibrate it.
     
  23. iolinux333 macrumors 68000

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    There used to be all sorts of things us early GPS users had to do to recalibrate the GPS all the time. It was a huge PITA. Both Android and iOS in the last two years or so seem to have made it all automatic and pretty darn foolproof. I could see how perhaps a config file deep in your phone is maybe corrupted, and the solution to that would be to hard reset the phone and "set up as new."


    Lastly I suppose there is a slight possibility that there is a physical hardware problem with your GPS antenna, an app like this one:

    http://www.psventures.co.uk/pv_view_iphone.php?iphone_id=14&iphone_app_name=GPS-Device-Data


    might give you a few clues, and might let you reset the config file. I haven't used that one I just pasted the link for, but I've used similar for android and windows mobile in the past

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    Oh I see now you already "set up as new." I missed that whole "how to read" thing in second grade. :eek:
     
  24. I7guy macrumors G5

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    Fwiw, GPS runs fine in apple maps and navigator. Smooth as silk.
     
  25. BearsFan4Life88 thread starter macrumors member

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    So when you are driving using apple maps, it doesn't stop and load the gps tracker?
     

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