Is it possible to "downgrade" to an older software version for Apple TV?

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  1. betman macrumors regular

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    Restoring factory settings apparently doesn't do the trick as it still updates to the newest version available.

    Is there a way to go back to version 6.0 by uploading it manually somehow?
     
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    It depends if Apple is still signing the firmware. I just downgraded my Apple TV 2 and 3 from 6.2 to 5.3 because of the judder/frame buffer issue which is well known. I found a mirror of the firmware site and restored both by connecting them to my Mac via USB and restoring from the files. Worked fine but now they keep asking to update and I keep having to tell them not to because I don't want to go back to 6.x again until Apple fixes the issue. Just for good measure, I reported it to them and said I had downgraded to 5.3 which had solved the problem but since the issue has existed since 6.0 I'm not holding my breath that they'll actually fix it any time soon.
     
  4. betman thread starter macrumors regular

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    Could you post a short instruction set on how to carry out the downgrade so that we can maybe post this up for future reference?
     
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    As per my post on another thread, I have just downgraded my ATV2 from 6.2 to 5.3 and its running smooth as silk. My brief instructions are below. I have only done this once and am writing the instructions from memory, but hopefully I havent missed anything out.

    - Goto http://ipswdownloader.com/download-apple-tv-ipsw-files.php and choose your the correct v5.3 for your ATV e.g. ATV3 or ATV2

    - Plug your ATV into your MAC via USB (for ATV3 you will need to use the power lead too)

    - ATV will appear in iTunes asking if you want to restore to factory settings.

    - When you see the box saying download and install, hold down the option key first. You will then get the option to navigate to your previousley downloaded firmware.

    - Once you have selected the firmware the downgrade should only take about 5 mins to complete. At the end it will say your box can be unplugged.

    - Plug back into your TV, run the setup programe and you should have a judder free ATV once again.

    Hopefully I haven't missed anything out. :)
     
  6. betman thread starter macrumors regular

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    Hi, many thanks for posting the info here.

    I'm trying to update (or rather "downgrade") my ATV but for some reason it's not working. When I hold down the 'option' key and click on 'Restore Apple TV' I am able to select a file, but when I click on the 5.3 file I previously downloaded I get the message:

    'The Apple TV "Apple TV" could not be restored because the firmware file is not compatible.'

    I also tried holding down the option key at the next stage instead, where the popup window gives the option to "Restore and Update," but holding down the key had no effect whatsoever.
     
  7. Steppy macrumors member

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    From memory it was the second stage "Restore and Update" that I hled the option key down and this produced the dialogue box which enabled me to navigate to the downloaded firmware which I saved to my desktop.

    I did initally try double clicking the downloaded firmware, but after that didnt work I searched online and found out about the option key trick.
     
  8. niteflyr, Jul 15, 2014
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    I seem to recall reading an article somewhere, (I wish I could find a link to it), that Apple is signing 5.3 only for the 2012 ATV3,1 (A1427) not the 2013 ATV3,2 (A1469). Apparently there were some minor hardware differences. I could not downgrade my 2013 ATV3. I got the same "Apple TV could not be restored because the firmware file is not compatible" message.

    Check your model here:

    http://www.everymac.com
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  9. betman thread starter macrumors regular

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    If someone has the later version, which software version did it originally use "out of the box?"
     
  10. jay47 macrumors member

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    6.0.2

    No buffering problems at all .
     
  11. betman thread starter macrumors regular

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    Are you sure, because the link with all the firmware files has the list divided according to the model of Apple TV (Apple TV 3G, Apple TV 3G -2013-, Apple TV 2G...). Since they're listing 5.3 under the new ATV then shouldn't it work?
     
  12. betman thread starter macrumors regular

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    The list of firmware files has 'ATV3' listed first, then 'ATV3 2013', 'ATV2', etc. I take it 'ATV3' is the newest version and 'ATV3 2013' is the previous one?

    Anyway, I downloaded 5.3 from the 'ATV3 2013' section (which probably isn't the right one) and this time I got a different error message: "The Apple TV 'Apple TV' could not be restored. This device isn't eligible for the requested build."
     
  13. betman thread starter macrumors regular

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    Hasn't the buffering issue been reported since 6.0?
     
  14. jay47 macrumors member

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    Have no idea . Purchased a few wks ago , came with 6.0.2 (6646.81.1) .

    First thing i did was disable auto updates & check the forum for any problems with the newest update .

    After seeing the thread about the buffering issue i decided not to upgrade .

    I have tested itunes & self ripped 1080p & found no buffering .
     
  15. niteflyr macrumors 6502a

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    Here's another download link that shows which model's firmware 5.3 are signed by Apple for ATV. (IOS 6.1.4)

    http://www.icj.me/ios/6.1.4
     
  16. betman thread starter macrumors regular

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    Right, so anything not signed by Apple will not get restored to ATV via iTunes?
     
  17. niteflyr macrumors 6502a

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    That is correct. When you attempt to restore, iTunes checks with apple to verify firmware version.
     
  18. betman thread starter macrumors regular

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    Thanks for the info. So it does appear that Apple has signed 5.3 for the original ATV3 but not for the ATV (2013) one.
     
  19. betman thread starter macrumors regular

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    So according to this: http://www.icj.me/ios/all#AppleTV32

    ...it is not possible to restore the newest ATV to any of the previous firmware versions?
     
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    Correct.
     
  21. adoc2b macrumors newbie

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    Apple TV 3 firmware can be downgraded w/o shah blobs

    I recently acquired an Apple TV3 with the hopes of a jailbreak being available... much to my dismay this isn't the case; although I am still looking. This was done WITHOUT SHSH BLOBS.

    However, there's a guy on YouTube that displays how you can downgrade to an earlier firmware: (here's the link)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Od_r2MecUN4
     
  22. niteflyr macrumors 6502a

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    This is for ATV2. Yes, it works on that model but not on latest model (2013) ATV3.
     
  23. keith0989 macrumors newbie

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    As per my post on another thread, I have just downgraded my ATV2 from 6.2 to 5.3 and

    I have just downloaded 5.3 but I don't have a mac to do this on. What is the alternative to the "options" button on a laptop please?

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    I have just downloaded 5.3 but I don't have a mac to do this on. What is the alternative to the "options" button on a laptop please?
     
  24. Intell macrumors P6

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    On a Windows machine, press the shift button instead of the Option button.
     
  25. Maverickev macrumors newbie

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    Downgrade to older Itunes does not reconise

    Hi,

    I have downloaded the version 5.3 for apple tv 2G as mine has updated to 6.2 but when i plug into iTunes and press shift and click on restore it takes me to a page to choose the relivant update, I have un-zipped it but it will not reconise it. should i be saving it to my desktop a certain way.

    please help
     

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