Is It Safe To Say NEW iPhone Media Event in 2 weeks???

[Small White Car]

lol that's a typical apple move. announce today, ship in 3 months. this happens all the time with their new products.

I can think of 1 time that's happened. The iPhone 1 in 2007.

A single example from 4 years ago is not "all the time."

Do you have any other examples?


EDIT: And no, I don't count software demos of OS updates. We're talking about iPhone hardware here. To compare software to hardware when you're talking about sales really doesn't make sense.

 

[MacManTexas56]

I can think of 1 time that's happened. The iPhone 1 in 2007.

A single example from 4 years ago is not "all the time."

Do you have any other examples?

iOS 5 and iCloud ring a bell? There have been just a select few times where they make an announcement and the product is actually available that day. iCloud....sometime in the fall? get real.

 

[korndawg]

iOS 5 and iCloud ring a bell? There have been just a select few times where they make an announcement and the product is actually available that day. iCloud....sometime in the fall? get real.

Announcing a service/software is MUCH different than a piece of hardware.

 

[dccorona]

me too i think they will unveil it at that event along with an iOS 5 launch that day. the new iPad 2 HD or whatever it will be called will be at either that event or the later event in late october.

the preorder storm this thing is going to drum up will be even more uncontainable than last time (as VZW folks will be included as well this time)

so, I have no idea when they will announce it, but I'm almost 100% sure they WONT be releasing it the same day they announce it

 

[b166er]

I agree. The pre-order frenzy is going to break the internet again. I think it's safe to say that each new iPhone generates more hype than the last. Plus the fact that it is available on more carriers now (with more possibly on the way).

My money is on them announcing it in September, having the pre-order in late September or October. There will be a month(ish) of relative unavailability after that. Sometime in November supplies will beef back up and the Xmas sales will be through the roof.

I'd say if you don't get in to the pre-order or wait in line on launch day you'd be lucky to get your hands on one by Thanksgiving. Just my speculation.

I'm really hoping the next gen iPhone just has ONE (maybe two, for colors) model. I think part of the reason we run in to availability issues with Apple products is because there are so many versions of each product. There are 8(?) different models of the iPhone 4. This results in one version being more available than others and people having to compromise or not get the exact one they wanted.

 

[NacSquared]

I actually went up to the AT&T store today and all of their employees were saying they have been told September 6th is going to be the release of the next iPhone. Not saying they're right, just saying what I heard.

 

[nunes013]

the preorder storm this thing is going to drum up will be even more uncontainable than last time (as VZW folks will be included as well this time)

so, I have no idea when they will announce it, but I'm almost 100% sure they WONT be releasing it the same day they announce it

true true. its getting harder and harder to predict apple. just when you think you figured out when things are going to get released they change it on you. but thats what makes it fun.

if they do release an ipad HD this year it will probably be at the same time they had back to the mac last year. and iphone event/ios 5 release will be mid-late august or early sept.

 

[pyro008]

No it's not.

Take a look on these very forums. I've seen many people in the threads about Android phones talk about how they got it because they wanted something newer but weren't willing to wait for the next iPhone.

Have you considered that it was because there is no announced date and its not even guaranteed that there will be a new iPhone this year? Because thats the reason for that.

When I go to buy something and am told "you can't right now" that does NOT guarantee that I'll wait for it. It changes my 2 original perceived choices (iPhone 5 or Android) into 3 choices (iPhone 4 now, wait for iPhone 5, or Android.)

So you're saying if you want to buy a phone and are told that there is no iphone 5 or set date for its release you are MORE likely to wait for it than if there is a set date that is a month away??? Are you being serious?

Anytime you disrupt people's choice-making process you give them a chance to change their mind. And yes, you can say that that's gonna happen anyway because the iPhone 5 isn't out yet, but when you announce stuff early you force those thoughts to the front of people's minds and make them think about it. You don't want to force them into thinkig about it until you're nearly ready to sell your own product.

Apple wants them to "think about it" for 2 weeks. Not for 2 months. That makes "wait for the iPhone 5" a less desirable choice in many people's minds.

You're completely ignoring the fact that most people who will be affected by the announcement of a date (which are a small minority of people) are not that interested in a phone that is a year old. A 2 month waiting period will win over an unknown waiting period any day for them. The exception is people who are constantly buying the newest thing who are going to buy a 5 whenever it comes out anyways. But then they already have (or had) a 4, so they wouldn't be buying that either.

Some will buy iPhone 5s. Some will buy Androids. By announcing their plans now Apple will cause more people to pick 'Android' than would have if Apple said nothing.

Why do you think Apple would actively work to push more people towards Android? That's insane.

You have done absolutely nothing to convince me that setting a date for the release of the new iphone will push people towards android more than they currently are by keeping everyone in the dark about it. All you have done is repeat the same unsubstantiated opinion that if people find out the iphone is not coming out in a week or two they're buying androids.

 

[boss.king]

No it's not.

Take a look on these very forums. I've seen many people in the threads about Android phones talk about how they got it because they wanted something newer but weren't willing to wait for the next iPhone.

When I go to buy something and am told "you can't right now" that does NOT guarantee that I'll wait for it. It changes my 2 original perceived choices (iPhone 5 or Android) into 3 choices (iPhone 4 now, wait for iPhone 5, or Android.)

Anytime you disrupt people's choice-making process you give them a chance to change their mind. And yes, you can say that that's gonna happen anyway because the iPhone 5 isn't out yet, but when you announce stuff early you force those thoughts to the front of people's minds and make them think about it. You don't want to force them into thinkig about it until you're nearly ready to sell your own product.

Apple wants them to "think about it" for 2 weeks. Not for 2 months. That makes "wait for the iPhone 5" a less desirable choice in many people's minds.

That can be said of any product. People waiting for the Droid Bionic or Nexus 3 could give up on waiting and buy an iPhone, so it's not really a valid point. They could be just as likely to buy an Android handset instead of the next iPhone regardless of whether has been announced or not.

 

[306Designs]

Does anyone know the date of the September event?

 

[Small White Car]

iOS 5 and iCloud ring a bell? There have been just a select few times where they make an announcement and the product is actually available that day. iCloud....sometime in the fall? get real.

I know I made my edit before you posted so I guess you've just chosen to ignore it. I stand by it, though, that software and services are nothing at all like hardware.

I take it that this post means you don't have any hardware examples in mind.

That can be said of any product. People waiting for the Droid Bionic or Nexus 3 could give up on waiting and buy an iPhone, so it's not really a valid point. They could be just as likely to buy an Android handset instead of the next iPhone regardless of whether has been announced or not.

Ok, that's a great example. What are the release dates for the Droid Bionic and the Nexus 3? And when did those manufacturers tell us about them?

Really, I'm curious. It will help me figure this out.

If you know the answer, Pyro, chime in. I have no idea.

 

[boss.king]

Ok, that's a great example. What are the release dates for the Droid Bionic and the Nexus 3? And when did those manufacturers tell us about them?

Really, I'm curious. It will help me figure this out.

If you know the answer, Pyro, chime in. I have no idea.

Ok, poor choice of phones on my part, I don't follow unreleased Android devices as closely as Apple ones. My point was that people waiting for an announced-but-not-yet-released Android or WP7 phone are just as likely to switch as those waiting for the iPhone 5. Like pyro008 said, people (especially those who aren't techies) would probably be more likely to wait if they knew there was a new phone coming soon rather than switch to a new device and a whole new ecosystem and have to re-buy all their apps.
Hope that's comprehensible, I'm a bit sleep deprived.

 

[pyro008]

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Announced as in given a release date, not just saying: "hey new iphone available...when its ready!" the latter of which really has very little impact on the choices buyers make.

Do you think it would be wise for them to announce the release date of the bionic 2 weeks previous to it if that fell a week or so after the iphone comes out? Giving a device a concrete date no matter the distance in the future is not going to cause more people to buy a different phone than announcing nothing, provided the date isnt wildly far off from the expected date.

 

[Small White Car]

Giving a device a concrete date no matter the distance in the future is not going to cause more people to buy a different phone than announcing nothing, provided the date isnt wildly far off from the expected date.

Which is it? You're contradicting yourself.

Given that my argument rests on this...that it's ok to announce a date close-in but far-off is really bad...you need to clarify which point you're trying to make.

I'm saying that wildly-far-off dates are a problem. Which you did say. But you also said the exact opposite thing directly before that.

 

[pyro008]

Which is it? You're contradicting yourself.

Given that my argument rests on this...that it's ok to announce a date close-in but far-off is really bad...you need to clarify which point you're trying to make.

I'm saying that wildly-far-off dates are a problem. Which you did say. But you also said the exact opposite thing directly before that.

I'm not contradicting myself at all. Announcing a a phone coming out a year from now is at minimum as good as announcing nothing. Announcing say the iPhone 5 is going to come out May 2012 when it is expected to be september 2011 would make people switch.


And how exactly is a September release far off? You realize its mid July right?