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I'm only a few hours in at this point with 8.1 clean installed on 5s, but it is running beautifully
 
I rarely use that list at all. Usually just swipe left/right :)

I know, but it still highlights the fact that Apple have gotten sloppy with their coding. It lags on the 5, 5S, 6 and 6 Plus when it most definitely shouldn't. It's not even as smooth as iOS 7 when you swipe left/right.
 
Well, today was the first day on 8.1. The battery life isn't as good as 8.0.2, and if I had the opportunity, I would go back to it. The lag in the weather app is gone. The lag from 8.0.2 is gone, but so is the battery life.

I didn't run out of battery, but I only had 50 percent when I got home. On 8.0.2 I would get an hour per 10 percent. Now its more like 35-45 mins per 10 percent of battery life. I hope there will be an 8.1.1 update soon for battery life! :apple:
 
I don't use games anymore or music because battery is gone by lunchtime. Here's a rough idea of my usage. Mainly emails and texts and Twitter browsing. Usually twitter is above the emails. But texting really drains my battery too.

You might want to check out this article. It was written for iOS 7, but still mostly applies to iOS 8:

http://www.scottyloveless.com/blog/2014/the-ultimate-guide-to-solving-ios-battery-drain

Also, check that your brightness is not turned all the way up in Settings or in Control Center. That will kill a battery faster than anything.
 
You might want to check out this article. It was written for iOS 7, but still mostly applies to iOS 8:

http://www.scottyloveless.com/blog/2014/the-ultimate-guide-to-solving-ios-battery-drain

Also, check that your brightness is not turned all the way up in Settings or in Control Center. That will kill a battery faster than anything.


Thank you. I've seen that page before. I've honestly done everything I possibly can to eliminate battery hogs on the 5S. My 4 was bad but this is far worse. Everything is off which is a shame because the phone is not being used as it should be. No location. No push. No music played. Don't use any games as they are a big killer. I've read so many battery articles official and unofficial but I still have exactly the same life on it as always. I have brightness very low and auto off. It's just the way it is I think. Pretty inconvenient to find charger twice a day.
 
Don't forget when bringing down the notification tray. Holy hell

Something else I noticed on the 5S is if you have 20-50 in your recents (phone app), when tapping the upper part of the screen (to make it scroll automatically) it actually drops frames. It never did that on iOS 7 and the interface is exactly the same as iOS 8 (8.1).

Yeah, this is planned obsolescence at its finest or just terrible coding by Apple. For all I care it's the same anyway in this case. The A7 is plenty fast enough to handle iOS cause the truth of the matter is that the amount of functions and overhead in iOS is nothing compared to the ridiculous increase in processing power (Apple mentioned 50X)?

There's no reason why iOS 8 shouldn't run as smooth as iOS 7 on the 5S and if they don't fix this soon, they I'd definitely say they slow their devices on purpose.

The iPhone 5 I have next to it running iOS 7 (7.1.2) obviously doesn't drop any frames when you make it automatically scroll up. Buttery smooth.
 
I'm still on 7.1.2 as I have a habit of never doing any Apple updates until they get to X.1 :)



Is it better to update via iTunes? Not sure what the difference is and why people have reported in the past that their phone worked better when updating this way (as opposed to just doing a remote update). I don't quite get why there could be a difference in the phone afterwards simply depending on how the update was done...


I think of it like painting a floor in a closed room. The agent making the change (you with a brush, itunes, OTA agent) has to stand somewhere. So you start at one end and work your way to the far corner. Eventually, you have to do some juggling. Leaving the old paint, standing on the new paint, etc.

An external agent (standing outside the room / itunes) has full access to paint the whole thing in one clean shot. No leftover bits to cause conflicts or battery drain. And it's more important the more of the room you are painting. So more beneficial with 7->8 than 8.0->8.1.

It's easy to blame the update (and 8 certainly deserves it) but when hundreds of others are reporting good experiences and you didn't do a wipe and everything short of a wipe isn't doing the job, it's what's left before blaming the hardware.

For the record, I installed 802 onto a wiped 5s with no restore. Then added all apps and data from the cloud. Zero problems. OTA installed 8.1, zero problems. I did the same thing with an rMini but restored from backup. Had several app glitches requiring app reinstalls. The less legacy you can afford to bring along, the better.
 
I was in ios 8.0.2 and i updated to ios 8.1 with my iphone 6+
the real result are (With my personal experience) ios 8.1 still lag a lot
and drop frames but is still slightly better and more stable than ios 8.0.2
 
My wife got 5 hours usage and 24 hours standby. With around 35% battery left. iPhone 5s. I have the usual optimizations going like limited background app refresh an other stuff.
 
I love Apple products, but I spend my life charging them! My MBP and my 5S are constantly on charge. I appreciate all the wonderful features and updates but if I can't use them for fear of running out of battery at the most in opportune times. Surely it's page 1 stuff for them. OK let's get a good battery life. Let's get wireless charging.,, anything would be nice. I had the same with the 4, but not from day 1. What's the future for 5S? Anyone know. Will it still be in production in a year or will they be phased out in favour of these new 6s
 
I love Apple products, but I spend my life charging them! My MBP and my 5S are constantly on charge. I appreciate all the wonderful features and updates but if I can't use them for fear of running out of battery at the most in opportune times. Surely it's page 1 stuff for them. OK let's get a good battery life. Let's get wireless charging.,, anything would be nice. I had the same with the 4, but not from day 1. What's the future for 5S? Anyone know. Will it still be in production in a year or will they be phased out in favour of these new 6s

The 5S will most likely be the 'free on contract' option when the 6S is released and then phase out completely when the '7' is out.
 
I love Apple products, but I spend my life charging them! My MBP and my 5S are constantly on charge. I appreciate all the wonderful features and updates but if I can't use them for fear of running out of battery at the most in opportune times. Surely it's page 1 stuff for them. OK let's get a good battery life. Let's get wireless charging.,, anything would be nice. I had the same with the 4, but not from day 1. What's the future for 5S? Anyone know. Will it still be in production in a year or will they be phased out in favour of these new 6s

I always wait a few months after a major OS release to decide whether or not to update my devices. I don't update if battery life is greatly affected. The battery life for all my Apple stuff is great, each device's battery lasts for a day or two of usage. I suggest running tests to see if "all the wonderful features and updates" are truly "wonderful updates" to the battery life you had before.
 
Is iOS 8.1 safe for the 5S?

I did a fresh/clean install of iOS 7.1.2 on my 5S about 3 days before iOS 8 went live. I am wondering now if iOS 8.1 runs well on the iPhone 5S?

How snappy does it feel?
Battery life?
Signal quality?
Wifi performance?
 
I did a fresh/clean install of iOS 7.1.2 on my 5S about 3 days before iOS 8 went live. I am wondering now if iOS 8.1 runs well on the iPhone 5S?

How snappy does it feel?
Battery life?
Signal quality?
Wifi performance?

To summarize, responses convey that iOS 8.1 is ok but still performs slower than 7.1.2.
 
If you are wiling to do a clean install again, you'll be fine. I'm getting great performance of a clean install of 8.1 for 4 days now
 
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