Tell me about it! Lion significantly increased the beach ball occurrence on my mid-2009 MBP with 2G of RAM. Just iTunes, Mail and 7-8 tabs on Safari renders the machine slow as snail. And virtual machine is out of the question. I've just upgraded my RAM to 8G. Now I can leave my mac open for days with VM, Safari, Mail, iTunes, uTorrent, MS office running without any beach balls. Lion is definitely a memory hog.
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Is Lion ever going to get better?
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Tell me about it! Lion significantly increased the beach ball occurrence on my mid-2009 MBP with 2G of RAM. Just iTunes, Mail and 7-8 tabs on Safari renders the machine slow as snail. And virtual machine is out of the question. I've just upgraded my RAM to 8G. Now I can leave my mac open for days with VM, Safari, Mail, iTunes, uTorrent, MS office running without any beach balls. Lion is definitely a memory hog.
psykick5 : Lion does not have any major problem if you do a clean install.Most problems come from those guys that did an upgrade from snow leopard!
I am one of those that suffered from freezes and frequent 'beach balls' until the day I decided to do a clean install.
From that day on everything is so smooth!
I am one of those that suffered from freezes and frequent 'beach balls' until the day I decided to do a clean install.
From that day on everything is so smooth!
Well according to Tim, lion is the greatest OS in the world- just ask Walt.
So, that right there tells me that I am nuts for not running it, and 6MM downloads says it all. Too bad my SL boxes run and work better than Lion; Tim ignored the troubled memos.
If Lion actually functioned on par with SL I would be ok, but it's a complete and utter wreck for me, and a lot of others who did upgrades as well as fresh installs.
Oh, and since when has a fresh install become the common theme for a mac OS solution? This is all new to me- doesnt work? Wipe and re-install dummy.
I can see that unless 10.7.2 fixes the entire OS and it's broken finder, safari hogging, imap, SMB, and others; I will be on SL for a long time to come. Icloud better get SL support or that might just rub salt in.
Whatever. At least I have a solid OSX to work with, hate that the latest did not cut it for me, but this proves to me that sometimes the latest is not always the best.
So, that right there tells me that I am nuts for not running it, and 6MM downloads says it all. Too bad my SL boxes run and work better than Lion; Tim ignored the troubled memos.
If Lion actually functioned on par with SL I would be ok, but it's a complete and utter wreck for me, and a lot of others who did upgrades as well as fresh installs.
Oh, and since when has a fresh install become the common theme for a mac OS solution? This is all new to me- doesnt work? Wipe and re-install dummy.
I can see that unless 10.7.2 fixes the entire OS and it's broken finder, safari hogging, imap, SMB, and others; I will be on SL for a long time to come. Icloud better get SL support or that might just rub salt in.
Whatever. At least I have a solid OSX to work with, hate that the latest did not cut it for me, but this proves to me that sometimes the latest is not always the best.
I feel I have to defend lion, to a point. The only issues I have noticed is a feature-rich, but buggy safari, which is nothing new, and bluetooth headsets are borked. Otherwise, it runs well for me. I love the new gestures, mail, and installing chrome canary took care of the safari issues.
As for SMB, it couldn't be helped. Everyone is moving away from classic SMB toward something more efficient anyways, so what we are seing are the pains of a transition. It will get better.
As for SMB, it couldn't be helped. Everyone is moving away from classic SMB toward something more efficient anyways, so what we are seing are the pains of a transition. It will get better.
There are many little things in Lion that bug me. But these things are not bugs, but features So it's likely that they are not going to be changed, and hence 10.7.8 will be the same as 10.7.0, for me. For my part, I regularly send Apple feedback and feature requests. I will feel incredibly happy if they change at least one thing.
Apart from that I feel Lion is a quite stable OS and definitely faster than SL. It sure does love RAM. I have 8 GB in my computer and the memory usage well exceeds 4 GB if you use it normally for about a day or two. I had used Lion with 2 GB RAM, and while it wasn't sluggish, I occasionally saw beach balls and page outs.
So it's likely that they are not going to be changed, and hence 10.7.8 will be the same as 10.7.0, for me. For my part, I regularly send Apple feedback and feature requests. I will feel incredibly happy if they change at least one thing.Apart from that I feel Lion is a quite stable OS and definitely faster than SL. It sure does love RAM. I have 8 GB in my computer and the memory usage well exceeds 4 GB if you use it normally for about a day or two. I had used Lion with 2 GB RAM, and while it wasn't sluggish, I occasionally saw beach balls and page outs.
It's ok to buy Lion Now
In the recent issue of Mac World they said Lion was good.
It is ok to install Lion now.
In the recent issue of Mac World they said Lion was good.
It is ok to install Lion now.
In the recent issue of Mac World they said Lion was good.
It is ok to install Lion now.
Lol come on now. Stop trolling
That's just like saying back in the year 2000 a MS mag saying windows mellinium is ok to install
I would compare what is comparable : 10.7.1 is a big step forward with respect to the same 1.6.1 version. It is overall stable and more responsive, but you strictly need a sufficiently large amount of RAM if you do some multitasking (which is the very common way to do with the Mac).
The real issue is the fact that Apple didn't manage to make the transition smoother between Snow Leopard (which was a first step towards Lion and 64 bit applications) and Lion itself. Apparently the GUI changes in Lion are deeper than the expected and do touch some fundamentals, making us wait for .2, .3 , .4 versions like we did for Snow Leopard (which, I have to remember everybody, was quite a pain at the beginning: i had large issues with java, plenty of incompatibilities with my everyday Applications, many glitches in the interface like stacks icons not getting loaded at boot time, and Safari wasn't better, etc. etc.).
So, as a general rule even for other OSs : if you don't want to experiment the new features, just wait, and if your computer is older than 3 or 4 years, just stay where you are.
The real issue is the fact that Apple didn't manage to make the transition smoother between Snow Leopard (which was a first step towards Lion and 64 bit applications) and Lion itself. Apparently the GUI changes in Lion are deeper than the expected and do touch some fundamentals, making us wait for .2, .3 , .4 versions like we did for Snow Leopard (which, I have to remember everybody, was quite a pain at the beginning: i had large issues with java, plenty of incompatibilities with my everyday Applications, many glitches in the interface like stacks icons not getting loaded at boot time, and Safari wasn't better, etc. etc.).
So, as a general rule even for other OSs : if you don't want to experiment the new features, just wait, and if your computer is older than 3 or 4 years, just stay where you are.
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The only issues I had with Lion were fixed 2 weeks into the release, and not any of them were about Apple. It was all about 3rd party developers releasing Lion updates for their apps, and they have done so, much faster than it was with SL.
I'm using Lion on my Mac Pro and on my 2009 MacBook Pro, and both are working without a glitch.
I'm using Lion on my Mac Pro and on my 2009 MacBook Pro, and both are working without a glitch.
I have problem with 1. The calendar, everytime i start it and it updates my google calendars the week numbers calendar is dissapearing.
2. I cant get the sound to work with hdmi to my tv any longer. It worked fine before lion, but not now. (many people have this problem).
So, I am amazed that it takes so long time before they fix any bugs. And from what I have heard, the 10.7.2 is not going to fix the hdmi-problem, thats a shame, I used my computer with my tv a lot before lion.
2. I cant get the sound to work with hdmi to my tv any longer. It worked fine before lion, but not now. (many people have this problem).
So, I am amazed that it takes so long time before they fix any bugs. And from what I have heard, the 10.7.2 is not going to fix the hdmi-problem, thats a shame, I used my computer with my tv a lot before lion.
Sorry, I suppose I should have put "(for me)" at the end of everything. But it really did fix all my issues.
Lion is running pretty bad on my Mid 2007 Macbook. I wish I never upgraded... I get more beach-balls, and super slowdowns when i have 6+ tabs open in Firefox. I've been using Lion since day 1 and I still dont really use any of the new interface features. If 10.7.2 doesn't fix these slowdowns that I have been getting, then I think I'm going to do a clean install of 10.6.
To be honest, i've not been mega happy with it since I downloaded it the day it came out, but i'd never really looked into it to be fair. Running Lion on my 2010 Macbook Pro i7 is utter rubbish in comparison to SL. I have 4 Gb of RAM and doesn't take long before I have 50mb of free memory.
It just generally doesn't feel as fast and loads of little things like not being able to swipe on the trackpad to go "Back" or "Forward" in finder, having to uncheck the option to re open applications when you shut down, the machine takes a noticeably longer amount of time to boot up, my battery life is absolutely horrendous, I get about 3 hours battery life if i'm lucky, where is i saw up to 7 when i first got it.
I appreciate that batteries don't hold their charge as well as they get older, but this machine is 1 year old and my old c2d Macbook could out last this on battery! I hate that they've tried to make it more like IOS, I love the gestures, but nothing else, Mission control, What the hell is the point in Launch pad?! Surely that's what the dock is for?!
It takes 10x longer to find an app in launch pad than it does to just type in spotlight because you can't remove 95% of the apps on Launch pad :/ Well, unless there's something i'm missing
I've never really posted on here, but I saw this and thought i would Hope this update does something useful
It just generally doesn't feel as fast and loads of little things like not being able to swipe on the trackpad to go "Back" or "Forward" in finder, having to uncheck the option to re open applications when you shut down, the machine takes a noticeably longer amount of time to boot up, my battery life is absolutely horrendous, I get about 3 hours battery life if i'm lucky, where is i saw up to 7 when i first got it.
I appreciate that batteries don't hold their charge as well as they get older, but this machine is 1 year old and my old c2d Macbook could out last this on battery! I hate that they've tried to make it more like IOS, I love the gestures, but nothing else, Mission control, What the hell is the point in Launch pad?! Surely that's what the dock is for?!
It takes 10x longer to find an app in launch pad than it does to just type in spotlight because you can't remove 95% of the apps on Launch pad :/ Well, unless there's something i'm missing
I've never really posted on here, but I saw this and thought i would
Hope this update does something useful
It would be nice if you could do a two-finger swipe. In case you're not aware though, you can hold down the Option key and then swipe using four fingers.
Hope this helps a little bit!
Yeh, I don't see why the implemented it on Safari and such, but not finder :/
And oh yeh, just tried that, works with 3 fingers too, still a pain
I guess we will just have to see what this new update brings and whether there will still be a lot to moan about I can't see it getting that much better if i'm honest
The main thing i think is the memory and battery usage. This thing reminds me of Windows laptops, the speed it uses the battery now