is lion really that big of a deal?

[Hermes Monster]

Certainly feels like they're trying to cater for all the new mac customers who have have been sucked in by iOS devices (me included). However I do know they're separate device types and don't need to be made similar. I want my very expensive iMac to be a great computer, not a large iPad/mobile device.

Some nice new wallpapers tho

 

[artguy3d]

sooner or later they will make it compatible with lion, i think i will stay with lion. I am not software hungry user. All i need is basic apps with great performance, too many softwares are junk nowadays. I will disable launch pad and restore software feature and enjoy new mail, better safari, 64bit itunes and full screen iphoto and safari.

I had some problems with safari - for example the private browsing is sometimes not private and goes into the history - what up with that?

I use Aperture and the rebuild took forever and it seems slower - it already had a full screen interface. Don't see anything else different about it.

Not really messed with itunes yet. But don't like mail and find it harder to sort and delete all the junk emails - have to look at them now - as on the iphone.

 

[UKBeast]

Certainly feels like they're trying to cater for all the new mac customers who have have been sucked in by iOS devices (me included). However I do know they're separate device types and don't need to be made similar. I want my very expensive iMac to be a great computer, not a large iPad/mobile device.

Some nice new wallpapers tho

if overall performance was worse than sl, without a doubt lion would have turned to os x vista. Hopefully, jobs saved his ass with making it inexpensive, more stable and faster than sl.

 

[jagolden]

Mate, indeed..

1. You pay US$29 or what ever
2. You press download and then
3. You wait 20 min
4. You install

My god... Terrible I know.. A hassle after a hassle..

No.. It is not worth such terrible hassles...



Here is an educational article for you...

No hassle other than the 15 or so apps that no longer work, like MS Office Suite. Now $30 has turned into $150 when you add on that cost.

 

[UKBeast]

No hassle other than the 15 or so apps that no longer work, like MS Office Suite. Now $30 has turned into $150 when you add on that cost.

it is what always happens when a new os is released, just give it some time.

 

[jagolden]

it is what always happens when a new os is released, just give it some time.

Yes been through it since System 6. But I've had this copy of Office for a loooong time (+7) now and it's worked through many system upgrades. Just don't like to spend the money on something used rather infrequently.

 

[artguy3d]

it is what always happens when a new os is released, just give it some time.

I don't know, I'm a pretty big fan of Snow Leopard. I had upgraded five or six times to get to that. Of course it is losing the Rosetta that causes most of the problems. Other than that Lion is a pretty easy upgrade, just seems like a downgrade when so much is taken away from some systems at the same time.

Still don't really see the point of that as Rosetta seemed like a solid bit of code and I hadn't heard of any viruses slipping in.

 

[jnpy!$4g3cwk]

Yes, Lion actually is that big of a deal

I read the suggested Ars Technica review-- it is well worth reading. The bad side of Lion is some misguided iOS GUI stuff, and some half-baked things like the new iCal and Address Book appearance ugliness. OTOH, there is a lot of very interesting stuff -- new process security "entitlements" that are very much like Capabilities of some decades ago -- advanced sandboxing. Combined with additional privilege separation in some vulnerable apps, this should result in a significant improvement in security. These are opt-in controls, but, something that every web browser, PDF viewer, or otherwise internet-content app should incorporate ASAP. File versions also something from the past that are making a welcome reappearance. 64-bit iTunes, improved Mail. Overall, it sounds like a winner with mostly ignorable annoyances. That said, I'm in no hurry -- I'll let the rest of you debug it for a little while.

 

[Tennyo]

I have been out of the loop for so long. I didn't even realize there was a new version coming out! :/

I haven't even had Snow Leopard for a year yet, though. I think I'll wait.

 

[Thana6tos]

Love my SL, no thanks Lion.

I'm NOT upgrading to lion, love SL and staying with it....... SL on my MacBook is working fine, never had a problem so far. Lion has nothing I want or care for.......... I've used (still do ) my old eMac with Panther for 6 years and it's still going strong.

 

[jeb1]

Def worth the upgrade. For some reason my mac seems so much faster now. The annoying problem i had of iTunes giving me the spinning wheel all the time has now gone too.

 

[blipmusic]

Visually, I'm actually liking it.

As I'm getting an 11" MBA as my next and only computer, the iOS flirting is in fact something I want (both the visual cues and the new multi touch functions), due to the smaller screen and the portability of that setup.

For desktops I can't really say. Though, I'm currently using an aging MBP with an external keyboard and a magic mouse and the 2 finger swipe (mouse) for full screen space switching feels great. As does 1 finger swipe (mouse) for back/forward in Safari.

Actually, I wouldn't if applications could make use of several full screen spaces at once. For example audio apps such as Record/Reason could have a full screen mixer, next to a full screen rack and a full screen sequencer. Or perhaps, if each full screen space could contain full screen "pages", switched between similarly to Safari's back/forward gestures.

Both Mission Control and Launchpad are growing on me. Only weird thing is that the dock is no longer of much use. Design/function wise it has become an indicator of currently running apps in my case.

Safari has a few bugs for me, such as disappearing close buttons (x) on tabs (pick a different tab and go back to the original and it returns).

The Dock sometimes get stuck mid-animation.

All in all, currently a few beach balls in Safari and elsewhere but on the whole it at least feels better than SL.

Almost lost my only internet connection after upgrading though, as I depend on a JAVA app for conneting wirelessly, and the JAVA framework is no longer pre-installed with Lion. Managed to find some poor guys open wifi spot, downloaded JAVA and got it all running in the end.

 

[mchalebk]

Of course it is losing the Rosetta that causes most of the problems.

Exactly. Unlike like most OS updates, which cause sporadic compatibility issues, Lion is going to lop off support for a ton of older apps. Before I even consider upgrading, I need to go through and figure out which PPC apps I still use. I'm sure I have some, the question is how many? Plus, can I even upgrade all of them?