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I admire the fearless who are willing/able to disassemble quite a bit to upgrade the ram. But if Apple designed the mini to prevent the normal person from attempting an upgrade, especially when it used to be so easy, then I wonder what they really think of their customers? I am hoping it is much easier than it appears so far...

I guess exchanging RAM on the 2018 Mini won't be so easy. I expect breaking something at best, making your Mini emit noises when it's moved or shaken.
 
Edit: looks like the poster above me did the work. It’s a dead simple job that only requires taking off the bottom plate. This will either be a turn and lift or “pop off at the tabs” procedure. Easy enough for anyone to do it...just make sure it’s not plugged in at the time.

If you must work on it while it’s plugged in, make sure it’s submerged in water. That helps get the electricity out of it. :cool:




(Disclaimer: potentiality hazardous :eek: )
 
Is the return policy still 14 days? I will be trying this out first, then returning. I don't think I'll be alone, should be lots of refurbushed Mac Minis available soon.
I think anything bought after nov1st, returns can be made until end of January 2019?
 
By now I still have not seen a single reviewer attempting to perform a RAM swap, let alone a tear down. This tells me there are terms in the NDA keeping that from happening. Hopefully real users in Australia do this for us today lol.
 
Or maybe reviewers aren't stupid enough to try to open up a unit that is on loan from Apple to replace RAM? NDA or not, they wouldn't get review units the next time, and they know it.
You're right, it is probably a non-tinkering return clause than one about disclosure. MacWorld in particular, their video literally stops midway upon them seeing the RF cage.
 
By now I still have not seen a single reviewer attempting to perform a RAM swap, let alone a tear down. This tells me there are terms in the NDA keeping that from happening. Hopefully real users in Australia do this for us today lol.

Give it some time. The mini comes out tomorrow. Apple Insider said" It's a fairly simple procedure, though not as easy as some of the previous minis from 2012 and earlier, necessitating a spudger, and a set of security Torx drivers. We'll be going into the upgrade process at a later date"

Just give it some time. Review units cannot be tinkered with.
 
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OWC memory 64GB (2 x 32GB PC4-21300 DDR4 Kit) runs $1,079.99 and Ships in 20 Days. Apple Education Store 64GB upgrade is $1,260. So those who are purchasing 64GB and qualify for an education discount might want to just get their RAM BTO. I have the tools to install it myself and have no problems with that, but for an $180 difference I'll probably just say "to hell with it" and go BTO. Ships in 2-4 business days.

32gb sticks are so hard to find right now that they can command that premium. 2x16gb on the other hand, $600 from apple, can be had for <$300.
 
Whoa, this is funny, upgradeable RAM and soldered storage. I guess I'm more okay with paying 200$ for the 512GB upgrade than 200$ for an extra 8GB's of RAM.

OP: You should edit your first post now that we've got some answers!
 
By now I still have not seen a single reviewer attempting to perform a RAM swap, let alone a tear down. This tells me there are terms in the NDA keeping that from happening. Hopefully real users in Australia do this for us today lol.
Indeed. Lots of speculation, some of it on the mark. Stucki himself adds that its a straight forward procedure. I don’t see unscrewing 10 screws as being “difficult”. Lets wait for a proper procedure to be tried, and see what happens.
 
Still not worried tbh. Unscrewing ten screws isn't rocket science. It's not like logicboards break when you touch them.

You would still make some print on the screw and surround peel off. I would say it becomes non perfect if you manually touch it except you have the pro tool.
 
If the WiFi antenna cable just comes off the lid the rest should be easy. Only part that worries me.
 
Indeed. Lots of speculation, some of it on the mark. Stucki himself adds that its a straight forward procedure. I don’t see unscrewing 10 screws as being “difficult”. Lets wait for a proper procedure to be tried, and see what happens.

Straightforward is removing a hard drive to access the RAM. Having to remove the fan assembly and logic board is not going to be a stress-free experience for most people.
 
You seem quite invested in these not being user upgradable.
I’m not invested in the outcome either way, and I apologize if I’ve come across as heavy-handed. My issue is that people come to these forums looking for guidance and advice and get mis-informed by people that present their opinion or their wishes as fact. Like the people that have said things like “yes the RAM is user-upgradeable, he said so in the video” (he didn’t), or the recent example of “you can take AppleCare and then you’re covered if you break anything” (you’re not) and so forth.

I’ve been involved in Apple analysis for my job for a long time (but only on these forums for a part of that), and in most cases the least exciting option turns out to be the right one, sadly, at least when it comes to Mac. But people consistently struggle to decouple their emotion of what they want Apple to do (for example, have user-upgradeable RAM, or launch a redesigned iMac, or whatever) from what Apple is likely to do based on the available evidence.

It looks like we now know that the RAM in the Mac mini is indeed not user-upgradable - in the sense that Apple’s position is clear, it’s not an easy upgrade to do, and it (probably, notwithstanding the FTC challenges) invalidates the warranty. That’s a real shame - clearly the product would be more customer-friendly if it did have user-upgradeable RAM - but it is consistent with Apple’s behaviour over recent years and the principles with which they appear to run their business. :-(
 
He followed up saying it’s pretty straight forward. I asked if it’s comparable to drive swaps in the older models and he responded:
Sure. If you have the right tools, it’s simply a process you follow carefully. Measure twice, pull once.
Not too concerned but will still wait for a tear down to see the exact steps before ordering.
 
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