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they are excited because that means that KHTML may actually become a good remdering engine. It was good for some things but generally not very much very well. You still needed NS by your side. Now, well KHTML is letting me view MR, VT, AusPUG etc as if it were IE.
Pretty good.

AND - it is the only browser to have made MSN Messenger NOT use IE as its default for viewing email. OW, NS, Chime .. oops .. Camino - no other broswer would change that setting. IMO that is the best innovation of all - great wrok apple :D
 
Originally posted by MacBandit
But in a way you're defeating your own argument since it's Apples work with the open source community and the development team for KHTML that is so innovative. Before Apple the KHTML had barely gotten a start now it's turned into a full fledged browser to rival or beat any browser out there. The true innovation though as I stated is the working relationsip between the open source community, Apple, and the KHTML developers.

Konqueror was already a full-fledged browser before Apple came to use it. They've definitely made improvements to the code as I hear the KDE users claiming it to be more reliable now. That's not innovative, that's a software professional doing debugging and writing code correctly. :)
 
Originally posted by bousozoku
Konqueror was already a full-fledged browser before Apple came to use it. They've definitely made improvements to the code as I hear the KDE users claiming it to be more reliable now. That's not innovative, that's a software professional doing debugging and writing code correctly. :)

As I stated the innovation comes from the openness of communications between Apple, the open source community, and the KHTML devolopers. I woudn't call it a full fledged browser before hand. Yes, it was a working browser but far from full featured.
 
Originally posted by MacBandit
As I stated the innovation comes from the openness of communications between Apple, the open source community, and the KHTML devolopers. I woudn't call it a full fledged browser before hand. Yes, it was a working browser but far from full featured.
seriously. konqueror was not a heavily used browser. most linux users would just get mozilla's latest. KHTML was pretty decent before, but it wasn't anything like safari. people trashed the first release of safari as incomplete, and that, i guarantee, was much more complete than the konqueror from which safari is derived.
 
What about 'resuming' a download...

I know it wouldn't be innovation... but I'd love to be able to pause a download and resume later. Or restart a download if I lose connection...
(if that already exists somewhere, can someone tell me how to enable it?)

Maybe innovation could come by searching for other sources to download from?
 
Re: What about 'resuming' a download...

Originally posted by GregAussie
I know it wouldn't be innovation... but I'd love to be able to pause a download and resume later. Or restart a download if I lose connection...
(if that already exists somewhere, can someone tell me how to enable it?)

Maybe innovation could come by searching for other sources to download from?

This is exactly the program you want. I used it for years and it works great.

http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/10801
 
I think Safari needs a lot of little improvements. I send lists of suggestions I think of periodically. Here are some of them:

- downloads window opens itself to clear the entry when a transfer finishes, window should not open for this reason
- option to bring download window to front when a new download starts and the download window is already open
- after posting a message on a messageboard and automatically redirected to the thread, the new post doesn't appear unless the page is then refreshed
- more personal preference than a problem: don't keep track of how many windows have been opened (e.g. Untitled X) when opening a new window
- key commands for page back and forward should be cmd-leftarrow and cmd-rightarrow
- images that don't load properly need a visible placeholder on the page
- should be able to load images that don't load individually from a contextual menu
- a way to disable auto-completing in the address bar
- bookmark folders should appear in in the bookmark menu as well as by clicking the bookmark icon in the favorites bar
- more control over the history: how many places to save, when to clear them, ability to remove single entries from the history
- ability to control cookies like Omniweb, on a per-cookie basis: accept always, accept but don't save, reject
- ability to open addresses in a new tab from clicking links in another application, instead of opening a new window
- option to save new bookmarks loose in the menu to be filed later, so the pop up doesn't come up every time you add a bookmark
- ability to search Google images directly from the search bar
- add a "save window size and location" feature like Omniweb. A window being opened by clicking a link, etc. should not become the default when you next open a blank window
- you should be able to download a file directly by typing its URL in the address bar and holding option while you press return
 
Originally posted by Perceptes
- after posting a message on a messageboard and automatically redirected to the thread, the new post doesn't appear unless the page is then refreshed

- bookmark folders should appear in in the bookmark menu as well as by clicking the bookmark icon in the favorites bar

- option to save new bookmarks loose in the menu to be filed later, so the pop up doesn't come up every time you add a bookmark


With MacRumors at least Safari loads the page correctly on the redirect for me.

Put your bookmarks in the bookmark menu folder. When you want to seen them in the boomark window using the icon in the favorites bar simply open the window and click on the bookmarks menu.

To save bookmarks loose, when the pop up window opens simply choose the book marks menu rather then a specific folder. It would be nice if it went back to that folder everytime though.

The rest of your suggestions were great.
 
In my humble opinion the best and most advanced, usable and quick browser has to be Opera 7.10. I use it on the PC and it has so many useful little quirks that the others simply dont have. Opera has had tabbed browsing for ages. It has the good bar, in fact pretty much any search bar can be integrated or built into the interface (which again IMO is way ahead of the competition). Then we get to its mouse gestures features which is really cool..... instead of having to click left and right buttons at the top of the screen... leave the mouse where it is hold down the right mouse button and move slightly left or right instead. Again this sounds probably more complication but, trust me its so intuitive and easy to do.
Anyway
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