Is the iPhone 7 the weakest non S model released ?

[MH01]

Well, by that logic it sounds like any newer model with newer and better components and other improvements implies that the previous models with components that are no longer as fast or as good are flawed simply because of that.

No, you are moving the goal posts. That's your conclusion .
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It wasn't like that when it first came out. The 6 plus was speedy and smooth. It was only after a year or so that it started to show its age with subsequent OS updates. The same with the iPad Air 1. I owned both and were perfectly fine for the first year.

I owned both and agree. While my 6 plus was a lemon, another major issues cited at the time was the memory used in storage . Anyway, there were lots of people who had really bad experiences with the 6 plus, I was one of them. There were lots of people without issues, guy who sat next to me was issue free while mine kept crashing. We had different hardware. All I'm saying is that mine was not a one-off lemon, many people had issues . Many were also issue free.

I've stoped updating to newer versions of iOS, for the gimmicks they bring, performance hit is not worth it.

 

[yegon]

It wasn't like that when it first came out.

It was flawed for me straight out of the gate.

At single tasks my 6 Plus was very fast and mostly fine.

The moment I dared press the home button, the experience nosedived.

Something I experienced every single day with the 6 Plus was this;

-Start podcast (in stock app, or Overcast in my case, doesn't matter)
-Browse safari
-Bring up CC to pause podcast while I want to focus on reading something in Safari
-Press home and respond to text or email
-Bring up CC to unpause podcast.....the podcast app has flushed, it defaults to the music app and starts playing music

Horrible experience and absolutely infuriating. Didn't happen with my previous 5S. 1gb ram was just enough with the 64bit 5S, likely due to the massively lower res screen/no scaling, which didn't require as much ram.

Throw in flakey gpu rendering performance when moving around the UI - sometimes I could see it was struggling simply moving portrait to landscape - inability to hold in even 3 tabs in memory if you ever left Safari to do something else, constant reloading of apps (sure, they loaded fast, but thats NOT the point), occasional hard resets....eek! Crucially it was a worse experience than I had with its predecessor, hence why I think it was a lousy iPhone.

It's fine that some people didn't have this experience with 6 Plus and were satisfied with it, I believe them. My saying all this doesn't undermine their experience, they clearly either use their phone differently, or these flaws simply didn't register with them. Much like how some people are happy playing video games at 30fps with regular dips to 20fps - I hate that, hence why I have a PC and a 144hz gSync monitor.

However, myself and many, many other users were unsatisfied. It wasn't due to getting a 'lemon'. It absolutely was due to the combo of 64bit apps evidently using 20-30% ram and the increased res/scaler requiring more memory also. I experienced all of this, and worse, with the Air 1, but that doesn't bother me as much as I sold it after a few months and simply lived without an iPad till the Air 2 came out. iPad is a complete non-essential for me, but something I really like having. Love my 9.7" Pro.

 

[ACG12]

It wasn't like that when it first came out. The 6 plus was speedy and smooth. It was only after a year or so that it started to show its age with subsequent OS updates. The same with the iPad Air 1. I owned both and were perfectly fine for the first year.

And they would be just fine right now had Apple not been cheap and given them 2gb RAM. The mini 4 is a perfect example.

 

[BritishApple]

Do people still care in this day and age that they're carrying the latest iPhone? Smartphones have reached a point where no-one is in awe of them now, everyone who wants one very likely has one and a lot of people are still happily using iPhone 4/s and iPhone 5/s. Back when iPhone was new, people did used to notice and sadly some people did like to flaunt their iPhone like some badge.

The iPhone 7 is a great device, it's ridiculously fast (compared to my old 6) and the responsiveness of the new home button and peace of mind from rain or a quick accidental dunk in the sink or spilled drink are great new hardware features.

Just my two cents, it's a phone; no one cares that you're carrying one that looks new, shiny, or different from anyone else. I find those who complain about the iPhone 7 design are those who are burned that the passing public don't notice they're using the latest model.

 

[Applejuiced]

If you research 6 plus memory issues it's well documented , slow performance , crashes, reboots etc. Feel free to google it .

I visited the Apple Store 4 times to have it checked, each time I was told the phone was fine, twice the genius made it clear from the logs that memory was the culprit.

It will vary from user to user , we use our phone in different ways. With the same identical restore on my 6S plus, issues went away.

Some people also blamed the actual storage modules used.... anyway , worst phone I owned.

When the device runs out of Ram and the OS does not handle it gracefully, it becomes an major issue

Do you think apple fixed the major failings of the 6 plus in the 6S plus cause they were just generous? Nope they recognised that the phone had structural issues and 2GB ram was needed.

I researched daily for over 2 years and the nightmare stories that you're talking about I never had. You're exaggerating about so called major issues and I never had any structural issues. My phone was straight as an arrow the day I traded it in.
Not sure what they fixed with the 6S since I went from the 6 plus to a 7 plus.

 

[C DM]

No, you are moving the goal posts. That's your conclusion .

Simply saying how what you mentioned could be read.

 

[Radon87000]

I researched daily for over 2 years and the nightmare stories that you're talking about I never had. You're exaggerating about so called major issues and I never had any structural issues. My phone was straight as an arrow the day I traded it in.
Not sure what they fixed with the 6S since I went from the 6 plus to a 7 plus.

Do you find the jump from a 6 Plus to a 7 Plus as big as from a 5s to the 6 Plus. Thats the point

 

[Applejuiced]

Do you find the jump from a 6 Plus to a 7 Plus as big as from a 5s to the 6 Plus. Thats the point

That's a good question.
I never got a 5S.
But from my iPhone 5 to 6 plus it was a good improvement. And the added screen real estate was great.

 

[MH01]

Simply saying how what you mentioned could be read.

How you read it more importantly how you interpreted it.

I've made it clear my issues with MY iPhone 6 Plus. Some that others have shared

Have a good weekend.

 

[Orr]

I've been really impressed with the 7. It's not a particularly exciting phone, which I think is what a lot of the negativity here towards it stems from. But it's an incredibly refined and overall excellent product, and I'm digging the matte black and the overall aesthetics. I'm someone who likes to keep their phone until the end (came from a 3GS and then the 5) and I see the 7 easily lasting me another 4+ years with the amount of power it packs.

 

[C DM]

How you read it more importantly how you interpreted it.

I've made it clear my issues with MY iPhone 6 Plus. Some that others have shared

Have a good weekend.

Well the comment was about the conclusion that was being drawn not the issues. Again simply commenting on how it could be read. And if I read it that way certainly others could as well. That said, you essentially clarified that's not quite what you meant. Have a good one.

 

[MH01]

I researched daily for over 2 years and the nightmare stories that you're talking about I never had. You're exaggerating about so called major issues and I never had any structural issues. My phone was straight as an arrow the day I traded it in.
Not sure what they fixed with the 6S since I went from the 6 plus to a 7 plus.

I said it was the worst iPhone I've had. I never said nightmare. The bar is set high.

Genius blamed my issues on the memory

The storage modules on the 6 serious were blamed for some issues

Yeah, the 6 plus was structurally fine, so decided to Redesign the case and materials used to add some width.

Look some people get a device that has issues , some don't, the 2016 MacBook Pro I had did not have lots of the issues others are complaining , I'm not telling them they are exaggerating .... that's just a silly. Cause I don't experience an issue does not mean others do not. Exaggerating is as bad as denial. Peace
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Well the comment was about the conclusion that was being drawn not the issues. Again simply commenting on how it could be read. And if I read it that way certainly others could as well. That said, you essentially clarified that's not quite what you meant. Have a good one.

You too bud . We got there .

My girlfriends tell me , I'm a **** communicator at time

 

[Applejuiced]

I said it was the worst iPhone I've had. I never said nightmare. The bar is set high.

Genius blamed my issues on the memory

The storage modules on the 6 serious were blamed for some issues

Yeah, the 6 plus was structurally fine, so decided to Redesign the case and materials used to add some width.

Look some people get a device that has issues , some don't, the 2016 MacBook Pro I had did not have lots of the issues others are complaining , I'm not telling them they are exaggerating .... that's just a silly. Cause I don't experience an issue does not mean others do not. Exaggerating is as bad as denial. Peace
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I hear you, sometime you get stuck with a lemon that has multiple issues.
Im surprised Apple didn't offer you a replacement. Cause typical the many problems you were having were not there for the millions of devices sold out there.

 

[MH01]

I hear you, sometime you get stuck with a lemon that has multiple issues.
Im surprised Apple didn't offer you a replacement. Cause typical the many problems you were having were not there for the millions of devices sold out there.

On the 4th visit they did. So I sold that one as brand new and used my 5s for 2 months until 6sz So I never found out it the new phone was going to give me issues . I have to admit the 5s was a great experience , now seriously thinking 5SE