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Hi,

After two weeks of using this device for work and play I feel that the amount of technology in this device packs the power of a laptop in your palm.

I have used 3g, 4s, 5s, 6s+ and this is the first phone that has so much power and memory and speed that I can now do things for work that I dreamed of since the 3g.

I cannot believe I can process 36 megapixel images with the RAW POWER APP. I can also transfer images wirlessly using Cascable app. I usually use the Macbook 12" for processing many files and I have to say the X processes the files at similiar speeds.

I was shooting news video of a blazing fire that took down half a block. The new image stabilized telephoto is rock solid and I was able to edit/render a video with 6-8 clips using Videoleap very quickly. I was really amazed at how fast the 1080p render was. I also like shooting 4k/24-60

FaceID is great for authentication with banking and other apps.

I got the RAvPOWER fast charging pad. Plugging in a cable to charge is so annoying especially because I grab the phone from the ravpower so many times a day. Great feature.

There are other things I discover daily about this phone and I continue to be surprised.

Can't wait for X+.
 

Relentless Power

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Hi,

After two weeks of using this device for work and play I feel that the amount of technology in this device packs the power of a laptop in your palm.

I have used 3g, 4s, 5s, 6s+ and this is the first phone that has so much power and memory and speed that I can now do things for work that I dreamed of since the 3g.

I cannot believe I can process 36 megapixel images with the RAW POWER APP. I can also transfer images wirlessly using Cascable app. I usually use the Macbook 12" for processing many files and I have to say the X processes the files at similiar speeds.

I was shooting news video of a blazing fire that took down half a block. The new image stabilized telephoto is rock solid and I was able to edit/render a video with 6-8 clips using Videoleap very quickly. I was really amazed at how fast the 1080p render was. I also like shooting 4k/24-60

FaceID is great for authentication with banking and other apps.

I got the RAvPOWER fast charging pad. Plugging in a cable to charge is so annoying especially because I grab the phone from the ravpower so many times a day. Great feature.

There are other things I discover daily about this phone and I continue to be surprised.

Can't wait for X+.

That's great that you are pleased overall with the iPhone X and it's meeting your expectations, but for the price tag, it's hardly a bargain when you pay full price for something that's not discounted or on sale. But nonetheless, you justifed the price point and That's all that matters.
 

macher

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Hi,

After two weeks of using this device for work and play I feel that the amount of technology in this device packs the power of a laptop in your palm.

I have used 3g, 4s, 5s, 6s+ and this is the first phone that has so much power and memory and speed that I can now do things for work that I dreamed of since the 3g.

I cannot believe I can process 36 megapixel images with the RAW POWER APP. I can also transfer images wirlessly using Cascable app. I usually use the Macbook 12" for processing many files and I have to say the X processes the files at similiar speeds.

I was shooting news video of a blazing fire that took down half a block. The new image stabilized telephoto is rock solid and I was able to edit/render a video with 6-8 clips using Videoleap very quickly. I was really amazed at how fast the 1080p render was. I also like shooting 4k/24-60

FaceID is great for authentication with banking and other apps.

I got the RAvPOWER fast charging pad. Plugging in a cable to charge is so annoying especially because I grab the phone from the ravpower so many times a day. Great feature.

There are other things I discover daily about this phone and I continue to be surprised.

Can't wait for X+.

The A11 Bionic is stupid fast. Apple is the undisputed king in the chip game.
 

ilian92

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I wouldn't go as far as saying it's a bargain, but it's a phenomenal device. I still think it costs a little more than it probably should, but given that this is Apple and the fact that they've crammed all this tech into the smaller form factor it's quite remarkable. That said, it's also to be expected considering what other manufacturers have been doing too.

Lmao I can build a full fledged gaming PC for the price of a tricked out X. It's nowhere close to being a bargain.

Not that it's in any way relevant.. but does your gaming PC fit in your pocket? :rolleyes:
 

Ries

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I wouldn't go as far as saying it's a bargain, but it's a phenomenal device. I still think it costs a little more than it probably should, but given that this is Apple and the fact that they've crammed all this tech into the smaller form factor it's quite remarkable. That said, it's also to be expected considering what other manufacturers have been doing too.



Not that it's in any way relevant.. but does your gaming PC fit in your pocket? :rolleyes:

Not that it's in any way relevant.. but are you going to write a novel or develop the next app on that gaming mobile that fits in the pocket?
 
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Radon87000

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I wouldn't go as far as saying it's a bargain, but it's a phenomenal device. I still think it costs a little more than it probably should, but given that this is Apple and the fact that they've crammed all this tech into the smaller form factor it's quite remarkable. That said, it's also to be expected considering what other manufacturers have been doing too.



Not that it's in any way relevant.. but does your gaming PC fit in your pocket? :rolleyes:
It does a hell of a lot more than the iPhone X that's for sure. The iPhone 8 does everything the X does at half the price so how is it a bargain again?

Not that it's relevant but does your iPhone X last 4 to 5 years without any hint of slowdown like my PC ?
 

Gryzor

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Depends on how you do the man-maths. Personally, as devices with all of their capabilities that can be carried anywhere, I think ALL current smartphones are a steal - some more so than others. However, when you factor in the use you get and the convenience it offers throughout the day, they are ridiculously good value.

Let's say the phone costs £1000 and is worth £300 in 24 months (typically when I change). Focusing purely on the device and ignoring common charges such as providers, electricity etc., that puts the Total Cost of Ownership at £700 over two years (even less for a business who can claim VAT back). Even if you just physically use the phone for 1 hour a day, that works out at roughly £0.96 per hour of use over two years. That in itself is, quite literally, as cheap as chips. When you consider that the device is with you for maybe 16 hours a day getting sporadic use throughout and just being there for when you need it, that drops to just £0.06 per hour of it being there for you. Show me something else in life that offers so much yet costs so little per unit of time.

Funny how people are happy to pay for cars that sit there unused 95% of the time, but whine when a technology item that is almost never out of arms reach costs £1000... Same with games consoles - people seem happy to pay £300+ for something that just sits there unused most of the time, and when you do want to use it you need to spend £50+ for a game that lasts you a few tens of hours.

Maybe stop focusing on the raw number and look at value in terms of what you get out of it. Put into context with other things in life, plus the fact that a mobile phone is with you constantly, and the sheer versatility and convenience it gives you, mobile phones these days are some of the most cost-effective and most used devices in existence right now.
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It does a hell of a lot more than the iPhone X that's for sure. The iPhone 8 does everything the X does at half the price so how is it a bargain again?

Not that it's relevant but does your iPhone X last 4 to 5 years without any hint of slowdown like my PC ?
Comparing a PC to an iPhone X...absolutely ridiculous. But yes, the 4 year old iPhone that my daughter uses is as fast now as it ever was, if not more so with the iOS optimisations. That argument is way more relevant than any pointless PC debate you care to throw in here.

Also, a 64GB iPhone 8 costs £699. A 64GB iPhone X costs £999. Where does half the price come from? Also, it doesn't do everything the X does. How can it when it doesn't have the dual cameras or Face ID with its related features.
 
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Funny how people are happy to pay for cars that sit there unused 95% of the time, but whine when a technology item that is almost never out of arms reach costs £1000...
Your logic is terribly flawed. You can never compare the cost of a car to the cost of an iPhone. Amount of use has nothing to do with the pricing. By that logic, my toilet should’ve cost me $15,000.
 

macher

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I’ve always had luck selling my iPhones. They get good resale value. Probably in a year at the next release you can probably get at least $500 for your 64GB X.
 

macher

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I don't think its a bargain and if you think about it. Most of the guts in the X are in the iphone 8, so you can make a case that the iPhone 8 is the bargain because you get most of what's in the X for less money.

Come to think of it an iPhone 8 64GB is $700, $300 less than an X.

Now some may argue OLED on the X. But I’m still very happy with my iPhone 7 screen. Face ID? Not a deal breaker for me. Home button or no home button? Nice not to have one but it’s not a deal breaker. What else? Are the bells and whistles worth $300 more? Hmmm.
 

Gryzor

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Your logic is terribly flawed. You can never compare the cost of a car to the cost of an iPhone. Amount of use has nothing to do with the pricing. By that logic, my toilet should’ve cost me $15,000.
Eh? I think you're the one with the terribly flawed logic. Whether something is a bargain or not has everything to do with both initial price and the amount of use you get out of it over time.

Why should your toilet cost you $15,000?! lol It costs $150 or whatever, so it's cheap anyway. The cost-per-use over two years for that toilet depends on how bad your health is. So maybe it costs you £2 per hour of use, that's still a bargain. Really not sure where your flawed logic came from and the maths that resulted in your toilet costing $15,000.
 

Definitelymaybe

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Your logic is terribly flawed. You can never compare the cost of a car to the cost of an iPhone. Amount of use has nothing to do with the pricing. By that logic, my toilet should’ve cost me $15,000.

So you’re trying to say you use the toilet 15x more than you use your phone? Hmm..
 

Gryzor

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Come to think of it an iPhone 8 64GB is $700, $300 less than an X.

Now some may argue OLED on the X. But I’m still very happy with my iPhone 7 screen. Face ID? Not a deal breaker for me. Home button or no home button? Nice not to have one but it’s not a deal breaker. What else? Are the bells and whistles worth $300 more? Hmmm.

I don't think its a bargain and if you think about it. Most of the guts in the X are in the iphone 8, so you can make a case that the iPhone 8 is the bargain because you get most of what's in the X for less money.

Is iPhone 8 "more of a bargain"? Yes, at £300 less for what it does, of course. That doesn't mean the iPhone X in of itself isn't a bargain still, for obvious reasons I've already explained. What you do get for your extra money is a nicer looking device, nicer screen, larger screen, larger battery, better camera, better UX and increased convenience (IMO) of Face ID. I'd say those alone justify the increase for what is still an absolute steal.
 

macher

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Is iPhone 8 "more of a bargain"? Yes, at £300 less for what it does, of course. That doesn't mean the iPhone X in of itself isn't a bargain still, for obvious reasons I've already explained. What you do get for your extra money is a nicer looking device, nicer screen, larger screen, larger battery, better camera, better UX and increased convenience (IMO) of Face ID. I'd say those alone justify the increase for what is still an absolute steal.

Larger screen that depends on the individual. Better screen is a fact. Larger battery cause it’s a larger device compared to the 8. Better camera depends if you’re getting an 8 or an 8 Plus. Face ID convenience vs Touch ID again that depends on the individual.
 

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That doesn't mean the iPhone X in of itself isn't a bargain still,
Yeah I think it does.

You do get a nicer screen, larger screen larger battery (but word on the street is the battery is not lasting as long) etc, etc. You're paying a premium for those items, which is the inverse of a bargain imo.
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Now some may argue OLED on the X.
OLED is a double edge sword, there are some nice things about it, but I think Apple's refinement of LCD on the iPhone 7/8 is such that I think its the best in the industry. You don't have the pentile matrix, nor do you have any burn in issues.
 

Gryzor

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Larger screen that depends on the individual. Better screen is a fact. Larger battery cause it’s a larger device compared to the 8. Better camera depends if you’re getting an 8 or an 8 Plus. Face ID convenience vs Touch ID again that depends on the individual.
Excuse me? iPhone X has a larger screen than iPhone 8. Fact. Apple don't make different sized screens for different individuals. Regardless of why the X has a larger batter than the 8, it does, fact. Better camera is also fact, because we are comparing to an 8 here, not 8 plus. Look at the price difference - 300, that's the clue right there. The only thing I'd agree on is Face ID vs Touch ID and the convenience that brings. However, when I say something on a forum, it's clearly my own view or opinion. If you want to take that as fact, that's your problem. If I want to cement something as fact, I'll say so like I have here.
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Yeah I think it does.

You do get a nicer screen, larger screen larger battery (but word on the street is the battery is not lasting as long) etc, etc. You're paying a premium for those items, which is the inverse of a bargain imo.
Well, word on my iPhone X is that the battery is phenomenal. Whether something is a bargain or not is clearly subjective to the individual. Thing is, £699 is hardly cheap even for an 8. It's only £300 short of £999, and that extra £300 premium you pay does get you a more premium product. Whether that's of value is up to the individual, but in either case, when you work out the value in terms of just how much use these things get, I do consider these things an absolute bargain. Some just more so than others.
 

maflynn

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Well, word on my iPhone X is that the battery is phenomenal.

Mine has been less then phenomenal and I've see other complaints.

Whether something is a bargain or not is clearly subjective to the individual
Indeed, I usually look for a lower price a wider set of features, given that the 8 has most of what the higher priced X has, the 8 fits the traditional sense of what a bargain is.
 
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macher

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Excuse me? iPhone X has a larger screen than iPhone 8. Fact. Apple don't make different sized screens for different individuals. Regardless of why the X has a larger batter than the 8, it does, fact. Better camera is also fact, because we are comparing to an 8 here, not 8 plus. Look at the price difference - 300, that's the clue right there. The only thing I'd agree on is Face ID vs Touch ID and the convenience that brings. However, when I say something on a forum, it's clearly my own view or opinion. If you want to take that as fact, that's your problem. If I want to cement something as fact, I'll say so like I have here.
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Well, word on my iPhone X is that the battery is phenomenal. Whether something is a bargain or not is clearly subjective to the individual. Thing is, £699 is hardly cheap even for an 8. It's only £300 short of £999, and that extra £300 premium you pay does get you a more premium product. Whether that's of value is up to the individual, but in either case, when you work out the value in terms of just how much use these things get, I do consider these things an absolute bargain. Some just more so than others.

You need to take a chill pill. Come down take a deep breath. You OK now? Good. If you read my post I stated fact and opinion.

Yeah I think it does.

You do get a nicer screen, larger screen larger battery (but word on the street is the battery is not lasting as long) etc, etc. You're paying a premium for those items, which is the inverse of a bargain imo.
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OLED is a double edge sword, there are some nice things about it, but I think Apple's refinement of LCD on the iPhone 7/8 is such that I think its the best in the industry. You don't have the pentile matrix, nor do you have any burn in issues.

Apple perfected IMO the 6/7/8 devices screen included. It’s like what GM does. They’ll put out a model like the Terrain for years same body etc and by the time comes for a new style Terrain the old one is rock solid. Might not be as fancy as the new body style Terrain etc but it’s pretty somewhat perfected.
 
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Gryzor

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You need to take a chill pill. Come down take a deep breath. You OK now? Good. If you read my post I stated fact and opinion.
Ah the predictable defensive reply after having been shot down in flames! lol Let's look at your facts vs opinionss:

Larger screen that depends on the individual. Better screen is a fact. Larger battery cause it’s a larger device compared to the 8. Better camera depends if you’re getting an 8 or an 8 Plus. Face ID convenience vs Touch ID again that depends on the individual.
  • You said "larger screen that depends on the individual". Nowhere do you state fact or opinion there. Besides, you're wrong. Everybody with an 8 has the same sized screen on their 8. Everybody with an X has the same sized screen on their X. Those with an X have a larger screen than those with an 8. Fact.
  • You said "better screen is a fact". Really? Define better. That in itself is an opinion, because what you might consider better will be different to what somebody else will consider better.
  • Yep, the larger device has the larger batter. Common sense, no? It also lasts longer than the 8. Fact.
  • As clearly stated, the value argument was around 8 vs X, not 8 plus vs X Besides, even then, the X has slightly upgraded cameras compared to the 8 plus, and both of them have OIS.
  • Face ID vs Touch ID. I agreed with you on this one, but you never clearly stated fact vs opinion.
So, I did read your post. You only stated fact once, and even then you got it wrong because "something being better" can only ever be an opinion.
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Jheeze Louise o_O no, it's not a bargain. That's like asking if a Ferrari is a bargain. Once again: no, it is not. There are cheaper phones out there that can do most of what the X does, minus FaceID and Animojis :)rolleyes:).
Yes there are cheaper phones, but most people still rock a £500 phone. So, by that logic, most people would be driving around in cars that cost around £85,000. Clearly the comparison to a Ferrari is flawed.
 

macher

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Ah the predictable defensive reply after having been shot down in flames! lol Let's look at your facts vs opinionss:


  • You said "larger screen that depends on the individual". Nowhere do you state fact or opinion there. Besides, you're wrong. Everybody with an 8 has the same sized screen on their 8. Everybody with an X has the same sized screen on their X. Those with an X have a larger screen than those with an 8. Fact.
  • You said "better screen is a fact". Really? Define better. That in itself is an opinion, because what you might consider better will be different to what somebody else will consider better.
  • Yep, the larger device has the larger batter. Common sense, no? It also lasts longer than the 8. Fact.
  • As clearly stated, the value argument was around 8 vs X, not 8 plus vs X Besides, even then, the X has slightly upgraded cameras compared to the 8 plus, and both of them have OIS.
  • Face ID vs Touch ID. I agreed with you on this one, but you never clearly stated fact vs opinion.
So, I did read your post. You only stated fact once, and even then you got it wrong because "something being better" can only ever be an opinion.

Larger screen is a fact but it depends on the individual right? An individual might not want a larger screen. An individual might prefer the smaller screen on the 8. The fact is X screen is better OLED. Just compare an 8 screen to an X.

Just because a screen is better doesn’t mean anything per an individual even though it’s bigger lol. There are people who still embrace the SE. smaller screen but not as good as the X screen quality.

Take a chill pill. Take a deep breath...
 
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