Carrier Is the iPhone X that good?

[mjschabow]

Just because we, as individuals, don't have everything we want on our iPhones doesn't mean Apple failed. Apple, afaik, has always been uniform with iOS. We knew, or should have known that going in. I rooted all my Androids from the Nexus One. Enjoyed the Custom ROMS from CyanogenMOD, MoDaCo, MIUI and others. When my son tried to persuade me to get an iPhone a few years ago, I never thought I would like them. No battery icon mods, no colorized notification light, etc. I would never go back now. I think the X is a great step forward for Apple and allows for lots of future software improvements. IMHO---

I hear you there. I used to root my phones and put them through hell. Soft bricks were common. Lol

But I’m with you. A couple years ago, I tried the iPhone and just love the simplicity.

 

[jwolf6589]

No I know, it's £999 for the 64GB version, so it's not £1000. Still, is £700 (sorry, £699, let's be accurate) good for a 64GB iPhone 8 in relative terms? If you're the sort of person who thinks £699 is fine but £999 is too much, perhaps you should reconsider your financial position and buy one of the Chinese knock-offs. If you think £699 is too much, ditto.

As for those afraid that Apple will stop making phones with Touch ID in the future, be afraid. In the very near future all iPhones will use Face ID, and in the longer-term future after that something else will come along that people get to moan about.

Except the iPhone SE

 

[atton]

I'm with an X right now, thoroughly love it but I would like to see the faceID recognition speed increase. I don't know if that's reasonable to ask or even possible to do. I just know that I would like it to be quicker - my 2 cents.

 

[barkomatic]

FaceID is amazing. TouchID seems quaint now—like a horse carriage.

 

[rugmankc]

I hear you there. I used to root my phones and put them through hell. Soft bricks were common. Lol

But I’m with you. A couple years ago, I tried the iPhone and just love the simplicity.

I hear you there. I used to root my phones and put them through hell. Soft bricks were common. Lol

But I’m with you. A couple years ago, I tried the iPhone and just love the simplicity.

I might add, I did not think I would like the screen shape. But, after about 3 hours of in-store testing, I very much like it. I watched a lot of trailers on it and like the wider landscape view. When I immediately played the same trailer on the 8 Plus, I thought it looked boxy. I know it was just from going from one to other, but I really like movies on the X.

 

[newellj]

Is it worth it? Personally I like the home button. I do not like faceid and prefer thumb ID when paying via Apple Pay.

I don't know the answer for me and I certainly don't know the answer for you, but I'll give you a few thoughts.

I decided that the extended holiday return period was a good chance to find out the only way that really tells you anything - buy one. I looked at my 7, a 128GB phone with only about 40GB used, and decided I could make do with a 64GB X. That was worth about $200 right there...but I digress.

The hardware itself is gorgeous. You really have to live with it a bit (and maybe look at the iFixit teardown) to appreciate what a tour de force this phone is.

Software/UI/UX is another issue.

Everything takes more motions and more time.

Unlock with TouchID? Just press (or now double press) the Home button. Unlock with FaceID means tapping the screen or the side key, then arranging the phone so it's looking at me, then swiping up. [I do not have rise to wake enabled, never have and don't plan to.]

ApplePay? With TouchID I just grabbed the phone from my pocket with my thumb on the Home button and jabbed the phone at the reader - done. With FaceID I have to double click the side button, then look at the phone at an angle that it can register my face, then confirm that it registered my face, and only then can I hold the phone by the reader.

There are other changes. I spend a lot of time in areas with poor or no cell coverage and toggle the cell radio off a lot. The control center was very easy to access on TouchID phones with only one hand. It is not easy on a FaceID phone. The swipe is from the upper RH corner, and although you can use Reachability to change that, invoking Reachability (a downswipe from the little bar at the bottom of the display) is hit or miss, and even when you get it right the downswipe from the RH edge is more awkward than a simple upsweep with a thumb.

So I'm coming to the conclusion that the FaceID UI/UX is just a lot more motion and a lot more time than TouchID. That's my $0.02 after a little under a week. I think a lot of my dissatisfaction may be just learning new tricks, which is why I plan to keep and use this X until the return period is up in January.

One thing that is NOT an issue for me: the "notch." People, c'mon, really?

TLDR: the return period is currently extended, only you can really figure out how you will like it - buy one and find out, but keep your old phone until you're sure.

 

[jwolf6589]

I don't know the answer for me and I certainly don't know the answer for you, but I'll give you a few thoughts.

I decided that the extended holiday return period was a good chance to find out the only way that really tells you anything - buy one. I looked at my 7, a 128GB phone with only about 40GB used, and decided I could make do with a 64GB X. That was worth about $200 right there...but I digress.

The hardware itself is gorgeous. You really have to live with it a bit (and maybe look at the iFixit teardown) to appreciate what a tour de force this phone is.

Software/UI/UX is another issue.

Everything takes more motions and more time.

Unlock with TouchID? Just press (or now double press) the Home button. Unlock with FaceID means tapping the screen or the side key, then arranging the phone so it's looking at me, then swiping up. [I do not have rise to wake enabled, never have and don't plan to.]

ApplePay? With TouchID I just grabbed the phone from my pocket with my thumb on the Home button and jabbed the phone at the reader - done. With FaceID I have to double click the side button, then look at the phone at an angle that it can register my face, then confirm that it registered my face, and only then can I hold the phone by the reader.

There are other changes. I spend a lot of time in areas with poor or no cell coverage and toggle the cell radio off a lot. The control center was very easy to access on TouchID phones with only one hand. It is not easy on a FaceID phone. The swipe is from the upper RH corner, and although you can use Reachability to change that, invoking Reachability (a downswipe from the little bar at the bottom of the display) is hit or miss, and even when you get it right the downswipe from the RH edge is more awkward than a simple upsweep with a thumb.

So I'm coming to the conclusion that the FaceID UI/UX is just a lot more motion and a lot more time than TouchID. That's my $0.02 after a little under a week. I think a lot of my dissatisfaction may be just learning new tricks, which is why I plan to keep and use this X until the return period is up in January.

One thing that is NOT an issue for me: the "notch." People, c'mon, really?

TLDR: the return period is currently extended, only you can really figure out how you will like it - buy one and find out, but keep your old phone until you're sure.

I do not have the money at this time so will keep my 6s for a while.

 

[jod1921]

Next years SE will most likely have a home button

To funny !!!

 

[newellj]

I do not have the money at this time so will keep my 6s for a while.

Yeah, apologies, that occurred to me. If you're not really sure, I would hold off without letting it worry you. A lot of people really love the new UI. I seem to be in the minority with my feelings. Mother Apple will decide whether one or the other goes, or whether both stay. If you are happy staying with the 6S, which is a very capable phone for most people, I would not rush to make any decisions.

 

[Timbo69]

I find I’m typing in my PIN a lot more often than I used to with Touch ID, which gets in the way. It feel like a retrograde step to me.

 

[eoblaed]

Is it worth it? Personally I like the home button. I do not like faceid and prefer thumb ID when paying via Apple Pay.

Sounds like you already have an iPhone X if you’re able to make a comparison between TouchID and FaceID and say you prefer one over the other.

Like others have said, this question is entirely subjective. For me, the X is worth it, absolutely. For you? Only you will know, and even then only after you get one and give it a fair go (at least a week).

 

[jwolf6589]

iPhone X has no charging port???? How lame. That along will keep me on the 6s and moving to the 8 when I can upgrade.

 

[super chimp]

I find I’m typing in my PIN a lot more often than I used to with Touch ID, which gets in the way. It feel like a retrograde step to me.

Same here. I don’t know if hoping for improvements through software updates is a foolish hope.

 

[mcdj]

iPhone X has no charging port???? How lame. That along will keep me on the 6s and moving to the 8 when I can upgrade.

What are you talking about? Who said it doesn’t have a charging port? Have you not seen a photo of the phone? Then again, if you post a question like your OP 3 weeks after launch, it would appear you haven’t bothered to read much of anything regarding the X.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

No I know, it's £999 for the 64GB version, so it's not £1000. Still, is £700 (sorry, £699, let's be accurate) good for a 64GB iPhone 8 in relative terms? If you're the sort of person who thinks £699 is fine but £999 is too much, perhaps you should reconsider your financial position and buy one of the Chinese knock-offs. If you think £699 is too much, ditto.

I wouldn’t get too pedantic over the terminology used within £1. I’d call that a necessary tolerance. It’s a grand give or take a couple of quid.

There is also quite a difference in price. It’s entirely reasonable to say you’ll pay £700 for a phone but won’t stretch the extra £300. It’s a significant amount of money and enough to sway me towards the cheaper device. They offer the same experience overall and many of us consider price when purchasing. It doesn’t mean you have to buy a Chinese knockoff, that doesn’t even run iOS.

 

[Allyance]

Don't be so quick to criticize, the phone is great, takes a little time to get used to it. There might be a sight lag with the FaceID once in awhile, but certainly miles ahead of the touch ID. Only time FaceID hasn't worked for me is when I have my full face helmet on! I like speed, I ride an 800cc sport bike, but the few mili-seconds faceID takes is inconsequential.

 

[jwolf6589]

What are you talking about? Who said it doesn’t have a charging port? Have you not seen a photo of the phone? Then again, if you post a question like your OP 3 weeks after launch, it would appear you haven’t bothered to read much of anything regarding the X.

Oops I stand corrected. Thought it was wireless only.

 

[Sunnyday2017]

What are you talking about? Who said it doesn’t have a charging port? Have you not seen a photo of the phone? Then again, if you post a question like your OP 3 weeks after launch, it would appear you haven’t bothered to read much of anything regarding the X.

Calm down, it’s not the end of the world, don’t have to be so mean to him

 

[j800r]

It’s worth it. Have you used Face ID or the gestures? Once you do, it becomes very natural. And yes, they will stop making new phones with a home button, but the 8 should sell for a few years likely. Or SE.

Where’s your evidence for this? Everybody simply assumes this bs but the FACTS are we have a new product introduced in the lineup. Not a replacement. When they introduced the Mac Pro did they eliminate the iMac? Did they stop selling the 4.7” iPhone because they have a larger Plus model?

 

[44267547]

I do not have the money at this time so will keep my 6s for a while.

Regardless, even if you had the finances for the iPhone X, I would suggest that you go to an Apple store and get hands-on experience with the iPhone X and see what it's like without the home button. It's an entirely different experience and you want to make sure you can justify your money for an iPhone like that in the future, which only matters if you like it.

 

[DNichter]

Where’s your evidence for this? Everybody simply assumes this bs but the FACTS are we have a new product introduced in the lineup. Not a replacement. When they introduced the Mac Pro did they eliminate the iMac? Did they stop selling the 4.7” iPhone because they have a larger Plus model?

Logic, common sense. They’ll continue to sell phones and iPads with a home button for a few more years. No flagships though. Probably the SE, 8 and prior iPhones, and the cheap intro iPad.

 

[GlenK]

I was concerned until I got one. Now I've only had it two days and don't even think about it anymore. Picked up my old 7 this morning and it felt antiquated.

 

[j800r]

Logic, common sense. They’ll continue to sell phones and iPads with a home button for a few more years. No flagships though. Probably the SE, 8 and prior iPhones, and the cheap intro iPad.

Common sense would suggest the opposite to me. They would likely lose too many customers if they went the route of killing the classic design entirely.

Not to mention the notch seems to be a love/hate thing. They’d also need to reduce the price point to that of the 8. I don’t see any of this happening personally. Certainly not for a long time yet.

Either way, stating this is gonna happen as fact is just ridiculous. We have no idea what Apple’s gonna choose to do going forward.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Logic, common sense. They’ll continue to sell phones and iPads with a home button for a few more years. No flagships though. Probably the SE, 8 and prior iPhones, and the cheap intro iPad.

If Apple update the screen on the standard iPhone, give it a decent camera upgrade and tweak the design slightly with maybe a stainless edge like the X, most consumers couldn’t give a toss if it has a home button or not. It only seems to be tech geeks vocal on the internet who are obsessed with making bezels smaller and suggesting ‘buttons’ are suddenly something out of the 1980’s.

I think a lot of us just want Apple to put more effort into the standard iPhone going forward. They are charging a premium price for it but think it’s acceptable to skimp on the content, probably because they want people to pay a lot more for a shinier but similar device. It’s not washing though and the 8 is supposedly selling poorly. They need to pull their socks up next year.

 

[j800r]

If Apple update the screen on the standard iPhone, give it a decent camera upgrade and tweak the design slightly with maybe a stainless edge like the X, most consumers couldn’t give a toss if it has a home button or not. It only seems to be tech geeks vocal on the internet who are obsessed with making bezels smaller and suggesting ‘buttons’ are suddenly something out of the 1980’s.

I think a lot of us just want Apple to put more effort into the standard iPhone going forward. They are charging a premium price for it but think it’s acceptable to skimp on the content, probably because they want people to pay a lot more for a shinier but similar device. It’s not washing though and the 8 is supposedly selling poorly. They need to pull their socks up next year.

What’s the main component of a multitouch smartphone? The screen. Therefore how is it geeky or obsessive to want more/better screen. Some like thin bezels some don’t. Including average consumers. We all have different tastes.