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Has anybody else had a chance to compare the rMB keyboard half a year vs now and felt that the travel has slightly increased? Maybe I'm seeing... uh... typing things... but now I kinda wish I got it. The previous one felt like bumping my fingertips against the desk.

nope. it's the same as it's always been. i wouldn't be surprised if my typing style has changed a bit, though. i can't really tell. using a mix of keyboards (mainly mbp and older version of apple bluetooth keyboard) is different, but not difficult or odd. in other words, the keyboard is really a non-issue with me.
 
Actually, I am still on the fence as to whether I like the rMB or not (I'll probably wait till 3rd iteration or so before biting the bullet) but I find it very interesting to read about people's experiences with it, positive and negative. Am I allowed to stay in the thread?

Yes.

The RMB isn't a perfect notebook. It's a perfect notebook for a certain type of user. So long as we're all in agreement, you may stay.

BJ
 
Another very good logical and informative post by BJ.

Now why cant the few same people who keep posting on this forum just to simply slag the MB off post knowledgeable and informed posts as well. Instead they come on here digging as deep as they can to find someone who has had a tiny one off fault with a MB and then try and turn it into a major issue and then say that all MB's have major issues. These people don't realise how sad they are, if i hated a laptop for whatever reason i wouldn't keep visiting a forum just to come and slag it off, i would spend my time visiting forum about a laptop i like. I often wonder what the real reason is these people come here, because it not to be helpful, and it's not helping anyone by slagging off the best laptop ever made, i think its probably jealousy or something like that.

I'm not sure it's as simple as that. Although there will always be bashers of a product surprisingly here it's more Apple owners than native windows based owners who are doing the knocking.

The problem with the 2015 MacBook is it does not sit comfortably with many buyers norms, or some think we are delusional as spring lambs and have not considered many points.

  • KB - If you can shatter a persons spine with the shock wave of your index finger from 40 yds away, its not for you
  • CPU - If you want a laptop with oodles of potential to run any task despite your own day to day requirements are modest, its not for you
  • Graphics - If you want to run games at >40FPS, it's not for you
  • Battery - If you want uncompromised all day battery life, it's not for you
  • Ports - If you do not like forking out extra $ for dangly bits to plug in your peripherals etc , it's not for you
  • Compatibility - If you have legacy equipment that's not supported ie TB, it's not for you
  • Longevity - If you expect to keep your laptop for >4 years, it's not for you
  • Weight - If you place no value of shaving a few 100g's of the weight , it's not for you
  • Size - If size and thickness (slimness) is not part of your considerations, it's not for you
  • Price - If you think a $600 laptop is equally capable and suitable, it's not for you
  • Options - If you want a laptop with a better spread or VFM of options/upgrades, it's not for you
  • Futureproof - If you subscribe to this then , it's not for you
  • 1st Gen - If you dislike any new products and consider that next generations will be better value, it's not for you
  • Anticipation - If you are fence sitter and believe the next upgrade will be significant, it's not for you
  • Screen - If you think the MBA is easier to read or the rMBP gives you better real estate, it's not for you
  • Aesthetics - If you think it's more of a fashion statement than a tool, it's not for you
  • Windows 10 - If you have not tried Bootcamp on a Mac then, it's not for you
  • Compromise - If you think the rMB falls short in too many areas for your use, it's not for you
  • Budget - If your finances are tight unless you are 100% sure, it's not for you
  • Apple - If you think OSX sucks, there's no touch screen, pen and all the other I hate this , it's not for you

I believe most buyers evaluate their potential purchases based on their individual needs, some decisions maybe miss guided and it's the opinions and help some get from here to allow them to make a more informed choice.

I would say its fairy naïve of the knockers who think we have not thought of this or that and miss interpret our replies as being dumb stuck and in love with our rMB

As noted before the rMB is a Svelt laptop that is suitable for those that fully understand it's design/functionality for a particular user base. If your not one of these users that's fine, just don't think it's smart in stating the obvious differences with the rMB and other laptops.
 
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Has anybody else had a chance to compare the rMB keyboard half a year vs now and felt that the travel has slightly increased? Maybe I'm seeing... uh... typing things... but now I kinda wish I got it. The previous one felt like bumping my fingertips against the desk.
I think it's perception thing... it starts to feel more like a normal keyboard as you get used to it.

When I first got the rMB, the keyboard was a bit of a challenge (the trackpad continues to be for me because my palms keep brushing it when on my lap or on the bed). I don't use it all day long, but I've been using it more and more as I've gotten more comfortable with it. It was just a couple days ago that I was thinking to myself, "hey, it seems like the keyboard has kind of loosened up" (not in a literal way).

I would say I'm now at the point where after a few minutes, I'm not really thinking about it. Maybe in six month I'll even say I prefer it.

FTR, I still can't type worth **** on an iPad (have had one since 2010), so it's not like I'll type on anything and not care.
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This is why rMB owners here are doing prospective buyers a disservice. Some of us have considered the rMB and documented the flaws that need fixing to make it a viable laptop, but there's a desire to make sure such points are drowned out by noise. Those who document the reason they reject the rMB are providing the Apple community with a service by avoiding the groupthink that is prevalent in here..
What a load of BS.

Sure, there's, like, literally one regular poster (i.e. BJ) who seems so infatuated with his rMB that he's lucky he hasn't been hit with a restraining order. ;)

But the other 98% of folks who simply think the rMB is a good or even great laptop, are quite open and vocal about what they like and don't like, and its limitations. It's been discussed hundreds of times, pointed out by old users and new users alike. Anyone interested in the pros and cons can get a lot of good information from actual users and enthusiasts who don't have an agenda.

It seems like you're the one who's been trolling this forum for months on end, with some bizarre rationalization that you're performing a public service. You seem intent on derailing threads with your flame-bait. That's kind of sad.

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edit: I'm really not digging this auto-post-merging... I know it's annoying when some people mindlessly make multiple posts in a row, but it's even more annoying when you want to keep the subjects of two posts separate.
 
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Sure, there's, like, literally one regular poster (i.e. BJ) who seems so infatuated with his rMB that he's lucky he hasn't been hit with a restraining order. ;)

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edit: I'm really not digging this auto-post-merging... I know it's annoying when some people mindlessly make multiple posts in a row, but it's even more annoying when you want to keep the subjects of two posts separate.

LOL, just to clarify: I don't mind actual RMB owners discussing authentic pro's and con's after months of real-world use. I have some pet peeves I surface every now and then too.

What I mind, and what I think almost all others mind, are those who read a blog or see a YouTube video, have zero intention of ever buying a RMB, and come in here to get their jollies by crapping all over our notebooks. The residue of that crapping is that legitimate potential buyers come in here for information and instead are often fed misinformation. I, among others, like to set the record straight for the good of the community. If we didn't, the crap would become the 'truth' and that's not good. I myself almost took the RMB out of contention as a replacement for my Sony VAIO ultrabook after watching some early YouTube reviews back in May, good thing the good people of this forum were here when I needed them. Our turn to do likewise.

BJ

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Agree completely on this auto-post merging thing....doesn't happen on any other forums I participate in, causes more distraction, not less.
 
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What's clear from the discussion and debate here is that no other Apple product has so split Apple users down the middle than the retina Macbook. One group is happy with a neutered product, the other waits for those issues to be fixed in the next revision. A posteriori MBA knowledge says the former group will quickly migrate to the latter group.
 
LOL, just to clarify: I don't mind actual RMB owners discussing authentic pro's and con's after months of real-world use. I have some pet peeves I surface every now and then too.

What I mind, and what I think almost all others mind, are those who read a blog or see a YouTube video, have zero intention of ever buying a RMB, and come in here to get their jollies by crapping all over our notebooks. The residue of that crapping is that legitimate potential buyers come in here for information and instead are often fed misinformation. I, among others, like to set the record straight for the good of the community. If we didn't, the crap would become the 'truth' and that's not good. I myself almost took the RMB out of contention as a replacement for my Sony VAIO ultrabook after watching some early YouTube reviews back in May, good thing the good people of this forum were here when I needed them. Our turn to do likewise.

BJ

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Agree completely on this auto-post merging thing....doesn't happen on any other forums I participate in, causes more distraction, not less.
This is very true, i was put off for months after reading all the crap on this forum making me think the MB wasn't any good. In the end i read between the lines and realise that most of it was just trollers stirring it up, so i went ahead and purchased one, and i am so glad i did, this is my favourite Apple product ever by a long way and possibly my best purchase of all time.
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What's clear from the discussion and debate here is that no other Apple product has so split Apple users down the middle than the retina Macbook. One group is happy with a neutered product, the other waits for those issues to be fixed in the next revision. A posteriori MBA knowledge says the former group will quickly migrate to the latter group.
Do you honestly mean and believe what you write?
 
+1

Just arrived in Hong Kong after a 16 hour flight, the MacBook was an absolute champ today, doing what it's supposed to be doing:

1. So easy to pack, the small power brick and power cord are about 60% smaller and lighter than any previous notebook I've owned, the HDMI adapter is nice and flat and light too, really reduces bulk and weight in my carryon.

2. So lightweight, I had to check twice just to make sure I didn't forget it once in the limo.

3. Through TSA, once again was able to leave it in my backpack without removing it, the x-ray scanner sees it like an iPad not a notebook. Really great bonus, getting through the scanners it's one less thing to worry about.

4. In the business class lounge, lots of admiring stares as I checked email, watched some sports highlights from my Slingbox, and reviewed a few spreadsheets. Out of the 15 notebooks I saw, 7 were Apple's, I had the only RMB.

5. Once onboard, it's so thin it easily fits in the seatback pocket in front of me alongside my iPad, no need to keep my notebook in the overhead bin and wait for the all-clear to drag it back down. Very convenient, none of that up-down-up-down dance to do, no need to squish a backpack under my feet and take up legroom.

6. In flight, the 8+ hours of battery is a dream, airplane mode and 50% backlight does the trick, and there is zero reason to stress over a working power outlet in the seat like the guy sitting next to me with his ASUS. He couldn't stop asking me questions about the RMB, couldn't believe the size or that it could run Windows, jealous that I didn't need to plug it in at all. Watched 2 movies and binged a whole season of Entourage, still had battery left to spare.

7. Now here at the hotel, the fast boot-up time connects me to wi-fi less than 30 seconds after removing it from my backpack and setting it on the desk. Another iOS-like bonus we don't talk about much.

8. I forgot how good the speakers are, usually using this at work and rarely for music. But in the hotel room, sounds like I brought an expensive Bluetooth speaker with me when I didn't need to.

9. About to Skype with the wife and kids at the dinner table, the retina display is so lifelike it's as if I'm there with them.

10. For the next 2 weeks as I'm traveling around Hong Kong and China, I can carry my RMB everywhere without worrying about power consumption or weight. Where for decades I would often leave my notebook behind in the hotel or constantly dread carrying it around all day, the RMB is an afterthought, it's so thin and light it makes this a non-issue.

These are the reasons that the 12" Retina MacBook is a dream device. Those who don't understand it never will because they are caught up in the processor horsepower wars and don't live in our world where portability and convenience is everything.

BJ

Completely agree; 48h hours wheels down KL, next Singapore, then onto Ho Chi Minh, 12" Retina is the perfect notebook for those on the go.

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What's clear from the discussion and debate here is that no other Apple product has so split Apple users down the middle than the retina Macbook. One group is happy with a neutered product, the other waits for those issues to be fixed in the next revision. A posteriori MBA knowledge says the former group will quickly migrate to the latter group.

I don't know there still enough flack flying around on the IPP

BTW

One mans neutered is another mans optimised, besides your old MBA is impotent by todays standards and likely to be castrated LOL
 
What's clear from the discussion and debate here is that no other Apple product has so split Apple users down the middle than the retina Macbook. One group is happy with a neutered product, the other waits for those issues to be fixed in the next revision. A posteriori MBA knowledge says the former group will quickly migrate to the latter group.

No, what's clear here is that no Apple product has ever been trolled this hard by bored Air users whose only way to get some notebook discussion thrills is at the expense of others who wish to have legitimate discussions.

BJ
 
Reading abut the MB like this is a frustrating yet rewarding option. Unlike the :
  • Apple Store where all is right with the world, you must buy one now and get the max amount Apple Care and you should also ... :rolleyes:
  • Best Buy were a prospective buyer was getting one just because it looked cool AND the store rep could not really tell me much about it :confused:
  • CNET/Verge/Other reviews where a snapshot is taken (in verbiage) and a post is published post haste :eek:
I will let you know any further thoughts / questions as mine arrives Monday ....
Thanks to all for the current and future info / entertainment. :)

I too am really not digging this auto-post-merging... it's annoying when I mindlessly make multiple posts in a row, and even more so when I want to keep the subjects of multiple mindless posts separate. ;)
 
Clearly some very emotional posts here. I had to laugh when Boltjames came out with some smartass reply like "So that's something to put you off something you won't buy anyway" and then next post down we find out the guy DID buy it and returned it. That just captures the essence of the many faulty assumptions and logic at work here. There is a CLEAR groupthink going on in this forum evident by this thread, I agree with dogslobber about that. There's no need for you MacBook defenders to get all defensive as if you're fighting some sort of holy war on behalf of Apple. If the MacBook is a good product, you don't need a forum to tell you that. You can try it out for yourself. If you allowed yourself to be dissuaded from purchasing it because you spent months reading forums, you have only yourself to blame. Dogslobber comes across to me as the rational, calm critique while all you defenders are emotional and irrational. And he can damn well criticise the MacBook here if he wants, for as long as he wants, there's no rule against that. This is a forum of free speech.

Note: I AM A MACBOOK OWNER. I'VE OWNED IT FOR 5 MONTHS. I LOVE IT, BUT I WON'T KID MYSELF SAYING THE MACBOOK IS A PERFECT PRODUCT. IT'S SIMPLY NOT. Regarding the keyboard specifically, as that seems to be brought up most in this thread- the keyboard is not perfect, it's noisy. The arrow cluster is annoying. Sometimes dirt gets under a key and the amount of pressure to press that key is uneven depending on the angle hit. The backlight is uneven. The battery life isn't that good. Then again, I disagree with whoever said that you can't be accurate and speedy on the keyboard. I've reached my top speeds on this keyboard. Conclusion: You can't just excuse all the flaws of a product by saying "Oh, but you don't get it, this isn't for you, it's only for such and such group of people." Let's not kid ourselves.
 
^Well like boltjames said, they're "fighting back". rMB haters will give it unnecessary hate, so they compensate with unnecessary praise.

"7. Now here at the hotel, the fast boot-up time connects me to wi-fi less than 30 seconds after removing it from my backpack and setting it on the desk. Another iOS-like bonus we don't talk about much."

LOL really?

"9. About to Skype with the wife and kids at the dinner table, the retina display is so lifelike it's as if I'm there with them."

You either forgot your meds or need to share them with me.

But for real, if you can afford the time/hassle, please go check it out a store or test drive it yourself for 2 weeks.
 
Clearly some very emotional posts here. I had to laugh when Boltjames came out with some smartass reply like "So that's something to put you off something you won't buy anyway" and then next post down we find out the guy DID buy it and returned it. That just captures the essence of the many faulty assumptions and logic at work here. There is a CLEAR groupthink going on in this forum evident by this thread, I agree with dogslobber about that. There's no need for you MacBook defenders to get all defensive as if you're fighting some sort of holy war on behalf of Apple. If the MacBook is a good product, you don't need a forum to tell you that. You can try it out for yourself. If you allowed yourself to be dissuaded from purchasing it because you spent months reading forums, you have only yourself to blame. Dogslobber comes across to me as the rational, calm critique while all you defenders are emotional and irrational. And he can damn well criticise the MacBook here if he wants, for as long as he wants, there's no rule against that. This is a forum of free speech.

Note: I AM A MACBOOK OWNER. I'VE OWNED IT FOR 5 MONTHS. I LOVE IT, BUT I WON'T KID MYSELF SAYING THE MACBOOK IS A PERFECT PRODUCT. IT'S SIMPLY NOT. Regarding the keyboard specifically, as that seems to be brought up most in this thread- the keyboard is not perfect, it's noisy. The arrow cluster is annoying. Sometimes dirt gets under a key and the amount of pressure to press that key is uneven depending on the angle hit. The backlight is uneven. The battery life isn't that good. Then again, I disagree with whoever said that you can't be accurate and speedy on the keyboard. I've reached my top speeds on this keyboard. Conclusion: You can't just excuse all the flaws of a product by saying "Oh, but you don't get it, this isn't for you, it's only for such and such group of people." Let's not kid ourselves.

I don't see the groupthink here. There are folks all over the spectrum in the forums. The MB isn't for everyone, but then again, nothing is. We all have to make the best decisions for our particular use case.

I was dissuaded from purchasing it early on by the reviewers (not users here), who I usually find quite helpful when making a decision, and I thought after a few months of using the MB that it would be a good idea to put my thoughts out there to help other users in the community make better decisions for themselves. I'm not interested in fighting for anyone or against anything, but I do think it is nice to balance the voices of users against reviewers.

I'm thrilled with many aspects of it (the keyboard, backlight, battery life, etc.). Your mileage may vary. That's cool. It's nice to have different viewpoints here in the forums.

By the way, I have a thread here about my problems with the keyboard ("crumbling keys"), so I would be one of the first to say that things aren't "perfect," but Apple took care of me (as usual), and everything is fine now. Hopefully, in the future they will work out some of the kinks that inevitably come with the launch of a new product. If this is the biggest problem I run into, it will be a much better experience than I've had with a lot of other computers in the past.
 
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How many forums have we been to where there is nothing but complaints and people are crying out for the silent happy majority to speak up.

You come here and find a few that are content and then they are accused of being delusional amongst other things

Maybe we should just revert to the norm of crapping over everything and arguing the toss for the sake of it

Utopia it's over rated :D
 
Dogslobber comes across to me as the rational, calm critique while all you defenders are emotional and irrational. And he can damn well criticise the MacBook here if he wants, for as long as he wants, there's no rule against that. This is a forum of free speech.
Are you being serious, I've heard it all now.

Yes he can criticise the macbook here for as long as he wants, but it would be nice if he did it logically and intelligently.

You say this is a forum of free speech, yet you are having a go at us owners that are praising the laptop, we can praise it as much as we like. After all we do actually own one.
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Note: I AM A MACBOOK OWNER. I'VE OWNED IT FOR 5 MONTHS. I LOVE IT, BUT I WON'T KID MYSELF SAYING THE MACBOOK IS A PERFECT PRODUCT. IT'S SIMPLY NOT. Regarding the keyboard specifically, as that seems to be brought up most in this thread- the keyboard is not perfect, it's noisy. The arrow cluster is annoying. Sometimes dirt gets under a key and the amount of pressure to press that key is uneven depending on the angle hit. The backlight is uneven. The battery life isn't that good. Then again, I disagree with whoever said that you can't be accurate and speedy on the keyboard. I've reached my top speeds on this keyboard. Conclusion: You can't just excuse all the flaws of a product by saying "Oh, but you don't get it, this isn't for you, it's only for such and such group of people." Let's not kid ourselves.
I don't have any of those problems myself, and yes the MB is a perfect product for me. Just because it isn't perfect for you doesn't mean it cant be for others.
 
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How many forums have we been to where there is nothing but complaints and people are crying out for the silent happy majority to speak up.

You come here and find a few that are content and then they are accused of being delusional amongst other things

Maybe we should just revert to the norm of crapping over everything and arguing the toss for the sake of it

Utopia it's over rated :D

Yes, its impossible for a group of people to be happy with a product they researched and purchased and used.

It's far, far more likely that the product sucks and we are making stuff up just to make ourselves feel better about our horrible purchases.

BJ
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^Well like boltjames said, they're "fighting back". rMB haters will give it unnecessary hate, so they compensate with unnecessary praise.

"7. Now here at the hotel, the fast boot-up time connects me to wi-fi less than 30 seconds after removing it from my backpack and setting it on the desk. Another iOS-like bonus we don't talk about much."

LOL really?

"9. About to Skype with the wife and kids at the dinner table, the retina display is so lifelike it's as if I'm there with them."

You either forgot your meds or need to share them with me.

But for real, if you can afford the time/hassle, please go check it out a store or test drive it yourself for 2 weeks.

I'm sorry, but are you saying that the fast boot-up time from Sleep can't get me from my backpack to the internet in 30 seconds? I do it every day.

And similarly, are you saying that my HD cam back in the US isn't providing me with a crystal-clear and lifelike moving image on my retina display here in Hong Kong? Just finished Skype with the wife and kids, looked fantastic. Right now I'm watching the Texans/Chiefs game in glorious Slingbox HD via the RMB and my hotel's HDMI port. That's my imagination too, right?

Meds? Please.

BJ
 
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^Well like boltjames said, they're "fighting back". rMB haters will give it unnecessary hate, so they compensate with unnecessary praise.

"7. Now here at the hotel, the fast boot-up time connects me to wi-fi less than 30 seconds after removing it from my backpack and setting it on the desk. Another iOS-like bonus we don't talk about much."

LOL really?

"9. About to Skype with the wife and kids at the dinner table, the retina display is so lifelike it's as if I'm there with them."

You either forgot your meds or need to share them with me.

But for real, if you can afford the time/hassle, please go check it out a store or test drive it yourself for 2 weeks.
I liked this post the other day, but i have just realised i had read it wrong and you were saying these points are not true.

What makes you think you cannot take a MB out of a backpack and boot it up in 30 seconds, its quite easily done. I haven't timed it, but I'm pretty sure you can do it with the rMBP i have as well, and i would think you could do it with an MBA as well.
 
I'm sure he believes it's possible but that it's not impressive. Why is that impressive when for years we've been taking out our smart-phone/devices from our pockets and they're instantly on and already connected?

Edit: Oh, do you mean boot up time from cold?
 
This thread is funny :D

Why do people who have no intention of buying a specific device, and have probably spent little more than a few minutes playing with one in a Apple Store (if that) waste their time degrigating it on the internet?

I'm pretty sure there was similar nonsense back in 2007 when the MBA was first announced. A laptop with 1 USB port? And only a 80GB (slow) HDD? All so it can fit inside an envelope, like who's gonna do that? How many have they sold now?

And people complain that Apple no longer innovate. How many rMB clones will we see over the next 2-3 years, when Apple has pretty much perfected theirs and others are struggling to catch up.

Just to set the record straight - a rMBA with USB-C, USB3 and Thunderbolt3 ports would be the perfect laptop :)
 
I liked this post the other day, but i have just realised i had read it wrong and you were saying these points are not true.

What makes you think you cannot take a MB out of a backpack and boot it up in 30 seconds, its quite easily done. I haven't timed it, but I'm pretty sure you can do it with the rMBP i have as well, and i would think you could do it with an MBA as well.

it is quite easily done. it's also quite easily done with any modern computer with a SSD, IME.
 
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Another of those reviews against the rMB which I instantly disliked.


As someone who has used such a unit for more than eight months, I would have to say that the keyboard is one of the best that I have ever used. The wideness of each key allows me to type comfortably, the screen is just of the right size, and the one usb-c port does not bother me. There is just something about this keyboard that has allowed to me pen my ideas down very clearly from thoughts to screen. This does not happen with every computer that I have used. The worst was the Lenovo Yoga 11s because the keys were very narrow and I kept mistyping. I have absolutely no regrets getting the rMB.
 
Another of those reviews against the rMB which I instantly disliked.


As someone who has used such a unit for more than eight months, I would have to say that the keyboard is one of the best that I have ever used. The wideness of each key allows me to type comfortably, the screen is just of the right size, and the one usb-c port does not bother me. There is just something about this keyboard that has allowed to me pen my ideas down very clearly from thoughts to screen. This does not happen with every computer that I have used. The worst was the Lenovo Yoga 11s because the keys were very narrow and I kept mistyping. I have absolutely no regrets getting the rMB.

I think a lot of us were hoping for a Macbook Air with a retina display. I would have been satisfied with that. But, Apple gave us something different. And, something more expensive. I didn't mind the video -- he made some good points. I disagree about the keyboard, but I wouldn't say the force touch was a major factor in my decision. I'm not seriously considering Windows, so my range of choices is narrower, and I've got no interest in the Zenbook, which seems like a fine budget laptop.

The best bang for your buck with specs is often found with Windows stuff, so if that is your thinking (the reviewer), you'll want to avoid the MB. I'd like to think the MB gives you a better overall experience, despite the difference in specs, but I have no experience to back that up. I just know that all of my Windows machines have been mildly irritating or downright unpleasant. Maybe the Surface Pro 4 will tempt me next time I am shopping for a computer. I like how it looks, but every iteration I try this line and don't like it (the 1 and 2 were especially unpleasant bricks).
 
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Yes he can criticise the macbook here for as long as he wants, but it would be nice if he did it logically and intelligently.
The entire point is that EVERYONE needs to do that. Reality is that about 99% here doesn't do it, they respond with emotion only. Emotion makes you passionate, emotion makes you irrational. If you want people to get the correct facts then start by giving them no matter if it is positive or negative and let others do so the same. No one is the same thus no one will have the same set of positive and negative points.

A faster boot time does nothing if you don't boot that often but instead use the sleep/wake functionality. A faster boot time also means that you still have to wait. It's logic like this that is missing in a lot of the discussions here. The fact that the gaps between the notebooks is getting smaller doesn't help either. It's now getting to a matter of (small) details.

The comments about the single USB port I find rather hilarious. It isn't the first device to come with a single USB port, that award goes out to the Microsoft Surface series. Sporting a single USB port from day 1 which was somewhere back in 2012 I believe. Yet nobody has been this vocal about having a single USB port on a device as with the MB. Just shows that there have been loads of people not needing more than 1 USB port for some years now. It isn't that much of a deal in reality.

I have the Surface Pro 2 and the only reason I use the USB port on the go is because of the crappy wifi/bluetooth hardware and the crappy trackpad (you can't use the touchscreen for everything, nor can you use the pen). I bought a USB network card with an additional USB port so I can hook up the wired network and a wired mouse as well. Since the MacBook has proper wifi/bluetooth hardware I wouldn't need something like that (I'd still like wired ethernet though because I'd like to do some network testing/installing). At home I can hook up every possible device via a dock and hook that one up via that single USB-C port. The only reason I'm not buying an MB yet: my MBA still works fine.
 
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