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Is the new Mac Mini worth the wait?

mac.tastic said:
No it doesn't.
New products have zero effect on other model lines.
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Not directly no, but these Airs are supposed to release with Lion, and new Mini's/Pro's are supposedly on hold until Lion releases, so there you have it. The impending release of the Air implies a swift release of other product lines.
 
No it doesn't.
The MP and Mini have no connection or tie to the Air. All three use very different components with different manufacturing sources.
 
mac.tastic said:
No it doesn't.
The MP and Mini have no connection or tie to the Air. All three use very different components with different manufacturing sources.
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Again, it does.
(1) Mini's are supposedly held back until the release of Lion.
(2) Airs are probably released with Lion.
Air release soon implies (by (2)) Lion release soon.
Lion release soon implies (by (1)) Mini release soon.
Ofcourse, this depends on which rumours you believe.
I'm just stating that, based on recent rumours, and through Lion, there is a connection between MBA and MM. It just doesn't derive from hardware.
 
lvlarkkoenen said:
Again, it doesn't
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Corrected for accuracy. Key words to follow.

(1) Mini's are supposedly held back until the release of Lion.
(2) Airs are probably released with Lion.
Air release soon implies (by (2)) Lion release soon.
Lion release soon implies (by (1)) Mini release soon.
Ofcourse, this depends on which rumours you believe.
I'm just stating that, based on recent rumours, and through Lion, there is a connection between MBA and MM. It just doesn't derive from hardware
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In other words, you have absolutely nothing to stand on and you're pooping opinions out of your mouth. :)
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mac.tastic said:
In other words, you have absolutely nothing to stand on and you're pooping opinions out of your mouth. :)
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Yikes. Pretty sure the site isn't called macFACTS.com. Isn't giving opinions on rumors part of the reason we all read these forums?

Nobody knows what will be in the new mini until it's released and lvarkkoenen simply gave a rundown of a timeline based on the rumors that have been reported on this site pertaining to the new mini.

Based on the thread title's question, I'd say those rumors and timeline are very relevant. Of course that's just my "opinion".
 
mac.tastic said:
Stating them as fact isn't.
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Just re-read these posts and I have to say it's my "opinion" that you're getting all twisted up over nothing. The posts you quoted are full of phrases like "based on rumors" and "supposedly" which are different than "definitely" and "based on fact".

The fact is that until apple starts announcing product refresh dates in advance (not likely), there's not much to discuss besides rumor and speculation. If that is troublesome to you, perhaps reading these forums prior to a product launch isn't a good way to invest your time?

Either way, I personally would prefer reading others' opinions over bathroom references and south park images. That's a fact about my opinion.
 
My (missed) point was that Apple should at least use 7200 rpm drives in 2011. I do know SSD's are much faster, and can be used as a boot disk, etc., but their inclusion in a low end Mac seems doubtful due to their price.

I've been watching the cost of an SSD on Amazon, and the price has gone UP recently. Not sure if it's the demand, or the nature of the drives that make them not follow the normal progression of electronics prices quickly downward.
 
Minicube said:
My (missed) point was that Apple should at least use 7200 rpm drives in 2011. I do know SSD's are much faster, and can be used as a boot disk, etc., but their inclusion in a low end Mac seems doubtful due to their price.

I've been watching the cost of an SSD on Amazon, and the price has gone UP recently. Not sure if it's the demand, or the nature of the drives that make them not follow the normal progression of electronics prices quickly downward.
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I agree. SSDs have a long way to go before they're mainstream. A SSD BTO option in the mini might be nice but in the meantime, hard drives should be 7200 rpm.

The supposedly upcoming mini refresh will be just that; a refresh. The main improvement will likely be a Core i processor which is worth waiting for, IMO, unless there's no plan to keep the mini more than a year or two.
 
Definitely wait. The current model is weaker than almost any desktop you can buy. It's not a good long-term purchase.
 
I'd say that a Mac Mini is a good choice for a casual user. However I really would recommend anyone considering to wait until a refresh. At this point in time, the Intel Core 2 Duo line although by no means bad, is just poor value and inferior to the new chips by a fair amount.
 
RichardBeer said:
At this point in time, the Intel Core 2 Duo line although by no means bad, is just poor value and inferior to the new chips by a fair amount.
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Poor value? I'd say buying more computer than you need is far worse, and most people don't even use the power that the current Mini has.
 
i would wait and see what a refresh brings, unless it is something you can't wait for. no sense in buying now if you can wait a few months when there will be a newer model out at the same or possibly lower price point.
 
fa8362 said:
Poor value? I'd say buying more computer than you need is far worse, and most people don't even use the power that the current Mini has.
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If the price of the new mini will be the same, I'd say it's about longevity and resale value as much as anything. In five years, OS X 11 likely won't run on a Core 2 Duo but it will run on a Core i3.

Or is that OS XI?
 
fa8362 said:
Poor value? I'd say buying more computer than you need is far worse, and most people don't even use the power that the current Mini has.
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That's so very true and I would class myself as one of those people. I bought a Q6600 PC about 3 1/2 years ago and have yet to use its power in anger. Same with my iMac too, the wife who uses it most tends to spend her time browsing shopping channels etc. :eek: A total waste.
 
fa8362 said:
Poor value? I'd say buying more computer than you need is far worse, and most people don't even use the power that the current Mini has.
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The next Mini update will be supported for longer in the future than now. Once the next Mini is released, the current one will be priced to clear, so if that's all you need you'll be able to get it cheaper than you can now.
 
Undo Redo said:
If the price of the new mini will be the same, I'd say it's about longevity and resale value as much as anything. In five years, OS X 11 likely won't run on a Core 2 Duo but it will run on a Core i3.

Or is that OS XI?
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If future OS updates are going to be more and more iPad-ified (as Lion appears to be), that wouldn't be much of a loss IMHO. To my mind you might actually be better off purchasing one of the current minis because otherwise you'll never have Snow Leopard. The lack of external recovery media in Lion is a load of poop.

Have fun bringing your Mac to the Apple Store every time you want to defrag the hard drive.
 
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