Is the next update going to be big?

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  1. alex00100, Mar 17, 2011
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    alex00100 macrumors regular

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    Hi everybody!
    i use hackintosh now and im really tired of its problems.
    im thinking about buying 6-core mac pro, but the next update is in 2012, so i have to wait over a year for it. i still study, so summer for me is a great time for my my projects(im animator) and i just cant stay with my old laptop.
    so here is my question, is the next update likely to be big? anything important?
    thanks. i hope you understand my bad english. XD
     
  2. Umbongo macrumors 601

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    There will be a big jump in processor performance due to Sandy Bridge being on average 15% faster clock for clock, clock speeds being higher, more cores at some price points Apple already use.

    Other things that will be there: PCI-Express 3.0, quad channel memory - don't expect any more memory slots, Thunderbolt ports, maybe native USB 3.0, faster graphics cards that may or may not support older systems, SATA 6 Gbit/s.

    It isn't a great time to be buying a new Mac Pro - but if you need it, you need it.

    To make the most of purchasing now you could upgrade the processor yourself. The W3670 is a 3.2GHz 6-core that can be had for around $600. There are ways to get a 2.8GHz quad cheaper than $2,499 and you'd have the processor to sell. Flash a PC graphics card, shop around for memory etc.
     
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    I am in the middle of upgrading a 2.8 to the w3670. I have all parts and tools i will start it on monday. In theory a 2.8 can be had for 2150 as a refurb and the w3670 is 620 from buy dot com on ebay. when all is said and done I hope to have a hex core w3670 for under 2650.

    you could look for this in apple store


    http://store.apple.com/us/product/G0LF1LL/A?mco=MTkzMjkzMjU

    sells out quickly
     
  4. gglockner macrumors 6502

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    From all the reports I've read, Sandy Bridge is scary fast. Sandy Bridge-based iMacs should outperform the current generation of Mac Pros in many (though not all) regards. And of course, once Sandy Bridge makes it to the Mac Pro, it should be amazingly fast.

    As others said, only buy a Mac Pro now if you absolutely need it and/or if you get a great deal (used, refurbished, etc.). Otherwise, much better machines are coming later in 2011. That's for certain. The only thing not known publicly is when they will be released.
     
  5. Joshuarocks macrumors 6502

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    Xeon Sandy Bridge Chips


    Try 2012.. assuming the mac pro isn't delayed another several months like the 2009-2010.
     
  6. alex00100 thread starter macrumors regular

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    so, what is the most likely time for releasing a new mac pro? third quarter of 2011? fourth? 2012?
     
  7. CyberCat macrumors member

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    Intel Xeon E5-26xx/24xx and Xeon E5-46xx aren't due until Q1 2012 so I could see a 2012 MP coming around late Q1 2012 or Q2 2012. Apple is not currently focused on the MP so I would say later estimates are safer than earlier, especially considering that the product lifecycles between MP generations seems to be lengthening.
     
  8. alex00100 thread starter macrumors regular

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    so its not in 2011 at all, right? sadly for me. ill have to buy the current model. i can wait a whole year. :( so i will buy 6-core 3.33GHz model. is it an ok choice?
    also one more question, should i upgrade processor and/or video card or just buy a new computer in 4-5 years?
     
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    I went from a pretty built up 2006 MacPro 1,1 2.66 to the 6 x 3.33 with 32GB of ram and a 120GB SSD for boot. I can tell you that the money I will save in increased productivity alone will be at least 4-5 times that of which I might spend to upgrade to a Sandy Bridge machine at the end of 2012, so I can take the hit down the road if I decide to upgrade a year to 18 months later.

    For someone who actually earns a paycheck in using this hardware, I can tell you there is almost no such thing as a bad time to upgrade your hardware. If it were only 3-4 months out, that might be a different story.

    But again, it all depends on what you are upgrading from and what your actual needs are in the cost / benefit ratio.
     
  11. alex00100 thread starter macrumors regular

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    so, there is a year before mac pro will be released? now i have a cheap PC laptop i installed hackintosh on. its very laggy(one of the biggest reasons to buy real mac). processor is dual-core 2.4GHz.
    im 3D/2D animator. what should i do now??? i really have no ideas. both waiting a year and buying old hardware isnt good. help me choose, please! :) what is worse?
     
  12. Macshroomer macrumors 65816

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    I hate to say it like this, but after about 1-2 days of research, a professional would know exactly what to do.
     
  13. highdefw macrumors 6502

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    We'll in terms of rendering, having an 8 core machine will make you far more efficient. So a year of struggling wouldn't really be worth it...
     
  14. CyberCat macrumors member

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    Personally I would spend around $800-$1000 and build a mid-range hack. I've done several hack builds and now that we can use vanilla kernel they are, in my experience, just as stable and fast. I own a real Mac too, of course, and obviously nothing beats the quality and beauty of the real thing. But if you just need something with a little more juice to tide you over for the 2012 Mac Pro, that's what I would do. Also I wouldn't expect much more than LGA 2011 + Thunderbolt in the 2012 MP. Highly doubt we'll see native Blu-ray or USB 3 given Apple's current stance.
     
  15. alex00100, Mar 20, 2011
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    alex00100 thread starter macrumors regular

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    Yes, im not a professional in hardware, im professional in animation. :)

    I will do some more research about 6 cores and 8 cores, but my main question is solved, i think. I will buy now.
    Thanks for helping!
     
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    Update

    As one who enjoys keeping his computers past 3 years, I don't believe the 2012 will be very significant.. as a 12-core and even 6-core 2010 is still a tough contender..

    My belief: Intel Macs and Macs in general(PowerPC included) - so long as the machine(s) do what you throw at them, they will never be obsolete.. but as soon as you try to do something on an older machine and it won't work, then its time to move up.

    I don't think the 6-core 2010 is going to be "obsolete" for some time to come.. Maybe if Mac OS XII were to come out.
     

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