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Is there any demand for the 17" MBP?

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Good thing - CDs wont become extinct. But the best medium that lasts ages for recording is vinyl. I am cutting my next album in vinyl. I still use the optical drive to burn albums, people are still happy to buy them from me with my original works on it. Technology can move forward how ever rapidly it wants, it doesn't mean that the majority of people are following suit, sometimes people don't buy into the trends till long after it is out of style because affordability & reliability is more important than following a fad.

The 17" Macbook Pro is for sure gonna have a second coming but it isn't religious it is logical :D
 
vpro said:
No we wont, we will not settle for just enough, 15" is not big enough, 17" was the PRO standard and shall continue to be what we the Pro users demand as the greatest expectation of Apple. We do not settle. We expect the best to be upheld and only the 17" MacBook Pro is the way.

Thank you.
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As a "PRO" user, I bought a 15" rMBP.

Like I said before, I'll take your bet. I just don't see a 17" MBP ever coming back.
 
i dont think they will bring it back, i had one before my mba, and i couldnt lug it around anu more, the 13 mba is the prefect size!!!
 
indeed

those little ones are the perfect 'size' if size matters to you, size definitely matters to me and only the 17" will do for me, so I do expect it to make a come back :D

thanks.
 
There's only a very vocal minority that wants the 17" MBP. I think the fact that they discontinued it at all speaks volumes as to what the actual demand was. I don't see it coming back.

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vpro said:
those little ones are the perfect 'size' if size matters to you, size definitely matters to me and only the 17" will do for me, so I do expect it to make a come back :D

thanks.
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Apple won't build a laptop just because you feel it's perfect. They'll only build a 17" again if they feel that the sales will increase enough to make more profit than they currently do.

The sales show that people prefer the 13" and 15" models. I predict the vast majority of current 17" owners will eventually switch to a 15" once their machines are no longer powerful enough for their usage.
 
terraphantm said:
There's only a very vocal minority that wants the 17" MBP. I think the fact that they discontinued it at all speaks volumes as to what the actual demand was. I don't see it coming back.
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That wasn't why Apple discontinued it: sales of the MBP had always been at those sorts of levels. They discontinued it because it didn't suit Apple's KISS philosophy to have two machines competing for the 'top of the range' slot, an rMBP 15 and a cMBP 17. Once an rMBP 17 becomes feasible at a sensible price, it'll most likely be back.
 
Assimilated said:
That wasn't why Apple discontinued it: sales of the MBP had always been at those sorts of levels. They discontinued it because it didn't suit Apple's KISS philosophy to have two machines competing for the 'top of the range' slot, an rMBP 15 and a cMBP 17. Once an rMBP 17 becomes feasible at a sensible price, it'll most likely be back.
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Or so you assume. The more likely and simpler answer is low sales.
 
Low sales slow smells...

What ever, sales, sales, sales... Don't you people think outside of the 'box' and take every word you read as truth, don't you people study and look back in history at trends?? Sheesh!

People generally have a LOT of spare cash to blow away on portables, they are attainable and serve a quick fix and makes the ConSumer feel like they look good for it. ProSumers have a lot of actual capital to spend on a mammoth notebook like the 17" MacBook Pro, which is a necessary tool of their trade, you don't pick up a 17" Macbook Pro unless you are certain you'll produce a lot of creative and productive work with it. Most people are the Consumers who buy 13 and 15 inch as an option of portability with middle of the road performance, where as the 17" is a very specialized, high end, way powerful, performance machine. Getting rid of it and making room for the 15" retina makes sense, in terms of selling a fad and introducing the retina AKA over blown hi res displays, just for the time being, because we all know that behind closed doors, Apple is revamping the 17" MacBook Pro - big time. That's all, it is that simple my friends..

So lets put to rest this thing about lack of sales caused the discontinuation of the 17" MacBook Pro. Eventually all the current MacBook Pros will be discontinued to make way for a new line, which the 13" & 15" r-macbooks represent the first of the ConSumer items, because the ProSumers are still making much progress with their 17" Macbook Pros. So as this latest technology has a chance to improve over the next couple of years or less, then we'll see the return of Apples ultimate ProSumer item, the 17" MacBook Pro, duh!

So ConSumers are a great help to Apple, as sales increase, Apple can actualize the reality of bringing back the 17" MacBook Pro. All the ducks are lined up for the ultimate goal people... We're all part of that great Apple scheme !

Thank you.
 
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Wrong. Apple is moving away from the "Prosumer", it's blatantly apparent in every product line.

Apple is driven by stock value, none of the imaginary stuff you spouted off. If a product doesn't sell in enough volume, it takes of valuable product space and production lines.
 
@vpro: what specs must the 17" have to be 'better' than the retina 15"? A 'retina' panel at those screen sizes must still be too cost prohibitive. And the retina already offers the same screen estate (1920x1200) as the old 17" MBP. The retina is equipped with the fastest CPUs/storage available. The only thing I see possible for the 17" is a faster GPU and more expansion slots/bigger battery. Is it worth a heavier/bulkier and definitely more expensive laptop?

On the other hand, I am really not sure whether I should really respond to you seriously as you are the person who posts nonsense like this:

vpro said:
*Did you know*
Turning your computer off saves more on electrical bills than leaving it on sleep.

I save over 45 dollars each month. That extra cash goes into my savings.
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$45 assuming $0.2 per KWh are 225KWh or continuos consumption of 300 Watt per hours for the whole month. Given that the maximal power draw of a 17" laptop is 75Watt I don't really know where your saving come from. By never ever turning on your 5 MacBook Pros? :p
 
@vpro: Have you not taken into account that a 17" retina model will be somewhere in the neighborhood of $4000 when all is said and done? People have been reluctant to spend $2500-3500 on the 15" rMBP already. What makes you think that people are going to spend even more on a "laptop" that they can't even bring with them everywhere? And honestly, in my opinion, spending $4000 on a computer is absolutely ridiculous. Unless you NEED that for work or something, I just can't see justification in spending that much money on a computer. Like I said in an earlier post, I love computers as much as the next person but there is a limit as to how far I will go and how much I will spend. And just to touch on something that you said previously, you said that generally, most people have extra cash lying around that they want to spend...I don't know many people who are in that situation. I wish i could just go out and buy every shiny new toy that comes out but 90% of the population along with myself do not have the luxury of doing such. You are very ignorant in your arguments. You keep saying how you think that the 17" is perfect. Do you represent the whole population of Apple consumers? I don't think so.
 
You are fun.

rmcguinness9894 said:
@vpro: Have you not taken into account that a 17" retina model will be somewhere in the neighborhood of $4000 when all is said and done? People have been reluctant to spend $2500-3500 on the 15" rMBP already. What makes you think that people are going to spend even more on a "laptop" that they can't even bring with them everywhere? And honestly, in my opinion, spending $4000 on a computer is absolutely ridiculous. Unless you NEED that for work or something, I just can't see justification in spending that much money on a computer. Like I said in an earlier post, I love computers as much as the next person but there is a limit as to how far I will go and how much I will spend. And just to touch on something that you said previously, you said that generally, most people have extra cash lying around that they want to spend...I don't know many people who are in that situation. I wish i could just go out and buy every shiny new toy that comes out but 90% of the population along with myself do not have the luxury of doing such. You are very ignorant in your arguments. You keep saying how you think that the 17" is perfect. Do you represent the whole population of Apple consumers? I don't think so.
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I'm an entrepreneur, I've been working for myself since I graduated high school at age 16, my musical career fell into my lap while I was in med school, so I decided - oh wow, I enjoy healing people more through music than drugs. Long story short, I continue to make a lot of money and have many, many, many investment portfolios, I represent myself but I'm sure the many ProSumers out there with a 17" MacBook Pro agree, that it is an investment for your business, it isn't a ConSumer product as the 13 and 15 inchers are. I will pay upwards of 4000 dollars for a 17" MacBook Pro if it is everything I need it to be for my business.

Thank you.
 
vpro said:
I'm an entrepreneur, I've been working for myself since I graduated high school at age 16, my musical career fell into my lap while I was in med school, so I decided - oh wow, I enjoy healing people more through music than drugs. Long story short, I continue to make a lot of money and have many, many, many investment portfolios, I represent myself but I'm sure the many ProSumers out there with a 17" MacBook Pro agree, that it is an investment for your business, it isn't a ConSumer product as the 13 and 15 inchers are. I will pay upwards of 4000 dollars for a 17" MacBook Pro if it is everything I need it to be for my business.

Thank you.
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That's exactly what I said. I said unless you NEED it for work or something. Telling me your life story doesn't change my opinion or your ignorance. I too will be making a lot of money in the not so distant future after i graduate college. Your comments have not proved anything, as I had already stated such variables for needing such a large/"powerful" computer.
 
leman said:
@vpro: what specs must the 17" have to be 'better' than the retina 15"? A 'retina' panel at those screen sizes must still be too cost prohibitive. And the retina already offers the same screen estate (1920x1200) as the old 17" MBP. The retina is equipped with the fastest CPUs/storage available. The only thing I see possible for the 17" is a faster GPU and more expansion slots/bigger battery. Is it worth a heavier/bulkier and definitely more expensive laptop?
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I don't know about most people, but I've looked at the RMBP display set to 1920x1200 and it's not as easy to read as 1920x1200 on my 17" MBP at the same distance.
 
leman said:
$45 assuming $0.2 per KWh are 225KWh or continuos consumption of 300 Watt per hours for the whole month. Given that the maximal power draw of a 17" laptop is 75Watt I don't really know where your saving come from. By never ever turning on your 5 MacBook Pros? :p
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Yup, he's either paying through the nose for electricity or he's running several MBPs to realize a $45/month electricity savings. :rolleyes:
 
Geckotek said:
Or so you assume. The more likely and simpler answer is low sales.
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Except you missed this bit: sales of the MBP had always been at those sorts of levels

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rmcguinness9894 said:
@vpro: Have you not taken into account that a 17" retina model will be somewhere in the neighborhood of $4000 when all is said and done?
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Much more today, as yields of 17-inch retina screens would be really low. But within a year or two, they will be feasible. $4000 is £2550, which is £550 more than the last MBP 17 sold. I've paid that twice, and an extra £550 is not that big a deal to those of us who use them for our work - which is the main MBP 17 market.
 
Agreed - exactly!

dittman said:
I don't know about most people, but I've looked at the RMBP display set to 1920x1200 and it's not as easy to read as 1920x1200 on my 17" MBP at the same distance.
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Assimilated said:
Except you missed this bit: sales of the MBP had always been at those sorts of levels

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Much more today, as yields of 17-inch retina screens would be really low. But within a year or two, they will be feasible. $4000 is £2550, which is £550 more than the last MBP 17 sold. I've paid that twice, and an extra £550 is not that big a deal to those of us who use them for our work - which is the main MBP 17 market.
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Thank you both for the voice of clarity and reason around here. I have had similar experiences and continue to share the great joy, and productivity of using the 17" MacBook Pro.

While sales of ConSumer notebooks such as the 13 and 15 inchers may go up and down, definitely the sales of 17" MACBOOK PRO reflects steady and consistent growth, just as the work produced by those who NEED it.

Thank you.
 
Assimilated said:
If that had been the reason, it would have been done years ago. It is not coincidence that the MBP 17 was discontinued as the rMBP 15 was launched.
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Except that there is new leadership now....right? :rolleyes:

You never give up, do you?
 
kvdv said:
If Apple would release a 17" rMBP next year, I'd sell my 15" rMBP immediately!
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This is what I wrote a few months ago. Meanwhile I have purchased a rMBP 15 (early 2013 model) and I have to admit that this notebook is nothing less than brilliant. A little less real estate, that's true, but hardly noticeable to be honest. And in return, I get a blazing fast laptop, an incredible bright, vivid and extremely sharp screen, a very light and thin notebook, easier to carry, less heat producing, etc. Now that I have the experience of working with it, I wouldn't exchange it for anything else.

Kris
 
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