It's funny.. Here in Denmark spring is March-May. Summer is June-August, fall is September-November, and winter is December-February. So, in the US, winter is January-March or what? So you have Christmas in fall, not in the winter? Assuming that all seasons are an equal of three months.
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Is there any reason for Leopard's release before WWDC in June?
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It's funny.. Here in Denmark spring is March-May. Summer is June-August, fall is September-November, and winter is December-February. So, in the US, winter is January-March or what? So you have Christmas in fall, not in the winter? Assuming that all seasons are an equal of three months.
We follow the equinox/solstice calendar, 21st of March, June, September, and December (Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter commencing).
Mmm...as mentioned, the NZ site says mid-2007, so June is incredibly likely...
I think we'll get more info at NAB, maybe a release date. I think Leopard will come in May, and it will be sweet. We will all give each other high fives.
I think we'll probably be seeing a WWDC release - it's the only window Apple's got to get up and actually talk about the secret features. There's no point having an event three weeks before WWDC or something - and they can't release it and then have Jobs come in two weeks later and unveil the secret features, because they wouldn't be secrets any more (people would find them, trust).
My money's on the iPhone seriously relying on Leopard to pull off some of the crazy secret stuff that's supposed to be coming. That's what will make Leopard a compelling upgrade - and it'll also be a point for people thinking about switching. Yeah, the iPhone's cool and all, and of course it works with your PC, but look how much cooler it is running on a Mac! You can stream your iTunes library to the phone, so you don't have to be at your computer to listen to your tunes! You can use the iPhone as a superwickedcool touch-screen visual remote for Front Row or your AppleTV! You can assign your Mac a lock and make your iPhone the key - just walk up to your Mac with your iPhone in your pocket, the lock's opened, and you're good to go (although to make sure you're not stuck if your iPhone breaks, you can also just type a password in)! All this and more!
It's that kind of thing that's going to peel people away from PCs - Vista's all well and good but there's upgrade woes, hassle with drivers and compatibility, the whole thing's a mess and I think stuff like the iPod and iPhone has presented people with a stepping stone, a gateway to a simpler way of using and living with their computer, of having their devices integrate seamlessly with little to zero effort on their part. That's the selling point of Macs, not ZFS Root or Spaces, which is what's lead me to think that the silence on Leopard is a red herring so large that not even a killer whale would try its luck with it. And I'd be surprised (and disappointed, frankly) if the iPhone didn't do at least one, if not all, of the ideas I've suggested, if not a hell of a lot more, when combined with Leopard, because that would shift a hell of a lot of iPhones. It would also shift a hell of a lot of new Macs, and copies of Leopard. I'm not sure the personal computer is ready for touchscreen as some people are suggesting, but I'm absolutely positive that Leopard's waiting on some hardware, and that hardware's got to be the iPhone.
My money's on the iPhone seriously relying on Leopard to pull off some of the crazy secret stuff that's supposed to be coming. That's what will make Leopard a compelling upgrade - and it'll also be a point for people thinking about switching. Yeah, the iPhone's cool and all, and of course it works with your PC, but look how much cooler it is running on a Mac! You can stream your iTunes library to the phone, so you don't have to be at your computer to listen to your tunes! You can use the iPhone as a superwickedcool touch-screen visual remote for Front Row or your AppleTV! You can assign your Mac a lock and make your iPhone the key - just walk up to your Mac with your iPhone in your pocket, the lock's opened, and you're good to go (although to make sure you're not stuck if your iPhone breaks, you can also just type a password in)! All this and more!
It's that kind of thing that's going to peel people away from PCs - Vista's all well and good but there's upgrade woes, hassle with drivers and compatibility, the whole thing's a mess and I think stuff like the iPod and iPhone has presented people with a stepping stone, a gateway to a simpler way of using and living with their computer, of having their devices integrate seamlessly with little to zero effort on their part. That's the selling point of Macs, not ZFS Root or Spaces, which is what's lead me to think that the silence on Leopard is a red herring so large that not even a killer whale would try its luck with it. And I'd be surprised (and disappointed, frankly) if the iPhone didn't do at least one, if not all, of the ideas I've suggested, if not a hell of a lot more, when combined with Leopard, because that would shift a hell of a lot of iPhones. It would also shift a hell of a lot of new Macs, and copies of Leopard. I'm not sure the personal computer is ready for touchscreen as some people are suggesting, but I'm absolutely positive that Leopard's waiting on some hardware, and that hardware's got to be the iPhone.
Leopard's no where close to being ready. We're still waiting for those "top secret" features to come out. Finder is still stuck at 10.4.7. First they need to show the new stuff, then let developers test, announce a date, then release a Golden Master, and make enough DVDs to ship.
I say June if we're lucky.
I say June if we're lucky.
The developers don't have copies of Leopard already to do bug testing, they have copies of Leopard to make sure their apps are compatible when Leopard is released.
Apple has their own testers who probably have a copy of Leopard with all of the final features already. They're probably finishing up with bug fixes and everything, and soon they'll start manufacturing the final DVDs. Leopard will be officially released at WWDC and it will be available that day.
Nice analysis & prognostication. I would like to see that as well, but I hope you're mostly wrong for one selfish reason:
I love watching SJ for the "And one more thing... Holy S***t!" moment... It's a complete hoot to see all those developers scream and squeal like 13-year-old girls spotting Leonardo DiCaprio.
If you were right, that would spoil the surprise! Also, Apple's lawyers would've quietly had the Mods delete your post, and had you "disappeared". Then, those of us that had seen your post would also suddenly go missing.
And, ... wait a sec, someone's at the door...
I can see TIGHT integration between the iPhone and Leopard. I think they'll have it setup where you can talk to someone with an iPhone and someone with a built-in iSight Mac.
I guess we'll have to wait and see since Apple is so damn tight-lipped about everything.
I didn't say they did.
As you said, they have to test their apps. They've been doing so, but Leopard still has to go GM, which it hasn't. I'm sure they can announce a date and show off the new stuff, but developers still need to test their stuff and how it works with the almost final release just as they've always done in the past. All of that takes time.Not until after it's GM, and from what I've seen, it isn't anywhere close.
I hope so, but the next developer release better be way better than it is now. If it's stable with the new Finder, and developers don't have to do much more than they've already done, there's still time for a WWDC release. I'm hoping that's the case, but worried it might not be.
NAB better bring something good.