Is there any way to play PC games on a Mac?

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  1. SPLIFFONLINE macrumors newbie

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    I was wondering if anybody knew of a way that I can play PC games on a Mac without using bootcamp or switching to Windows.. I bought a copy of GTA IV thinking that it would work with the WINE app but that didn't work at all, so I'm not sure what I should do. Thanks in advance.
     
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  3. karsten macrumors 6502a

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    wine would be your best best without having to reboot but that game probably is too heavy duty for wine still
     
  4. ActionableMango macrumors 604

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    No. The only way I know of to play a Windows game on mac without Windows is WINE, which doesn't work.

    If you insist on using WINE instead of boot camp, I suggest you check a game's WINE compatibility on their website before buying the game. So few games are compatible that I think it is crazy to blind buy a title intending to use WINE.

    Or you can wait for a Mac native version. GTA trilogy was released recently, I assume GTA IV will be forthcoming unless the trilogy doesn't sell well.
     
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  6. Huntn macrumors G5

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    Bootcamp. Installing Windows on your Mac is not so bad. Windows is completely separate from the Mac environment so no chance of any Windows nastiness leaking over. I'd recommend a good Windows Utilities suite to keep Windows running without issues. I use System Suite 11.
     
  7. doh123 macrumors 65816

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    Wineskin.... (http://wineskin.doh123.com/)

    gaming is the main focus.

    It still uses Wine, so it can still be difficult to get games working at times... you might have to do a lot to get it all set up right, and of course it still cannot run everything.

    If you want the best way with a supported (and not free) way to use Wine, go with Crossover Games (http://codeweavers.com/)

    that said... I don't think GTA4 is one of the games that runs very well even when you do get it working.
     
  8. roadbloc macrumors G3

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    Bootcamp is the only way to do it efficiently.
     
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  10. doh123 macrumors 65816

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    Bootcamp is only a solution for playing PC games on Mac hardware... a Mac booted into Windows is no longer a "Mac" as its just a Mac hardware Windows PC....

    the term "Mac" means an actual Mac computer, which includes Mac OS X.

    SO if you want to play the latest Windows games the best/easiest, you either turn your Mac into a Windows PC, or buy a Windows PC... yes...
     
  11. Huntn macrumors G5

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    I think everyone who pushes bootcamp in this thread is referring to Windows on Mac hardware. The OP is looking for a way to play PC games on his Mac without using Windows. The response has been the best choice is to resort to Windows. A less adequate method is to use some kind of Windows emulation.
     
  12. RichardBeer macrumors regular

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    Some people have had luck by using 'Cider' which is basically a proprietary fork of WINE that some games developers use to port their titles to OS X on the cheap or with minimum legal issues I think.

    You can find tutorials on how to do it on youtube etc, however I am unsure as to the legality of it and how well it works. I imagine the cider ports released by publishers are specially optimised/implemented for their title or something. Even then, like WINE; cider ports don't give the same level of performance you'd get running a native client, seeing as it's translating a Windows .EXE.

    Like the others above, if you want to game on a mac then the only practical choices that you have are,

    1) Use Windows under Bootcamp.
    2) Stick to games that have also been released for OS X.

    I recommend the first option under any circumstance for best compatibility and performance.
     
  13. doh123 macrumors 65816

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    Hacking another game apart to use Cider out of it to run a different game is completely illegal... no gray areas there. It does work very good in some cases (like Oblivion) though. Running a .exe in Wine doesn't really lose any performance... the major performance loss in any game on anything Wine based is the DirectX->OpenGL translation... Cider has a big step up on Wineskin, and Wine in general on Mac OS X, in that Wine only has an X11 driver, and Cider has a driver to use the Mac quartz interface directly.. this helps Cider to have a better frame rate, losing yet another extra layer to go through. I've been slightly looking into, and working on, making a quartz driver for Wineskin (not general Wine cuz they don't allow ObjC code), but its mega complicated...

    this isn't always a +.... there are "native" ports of games that are very poorly done that the Windows versions in Cider or Wine can actually perform better. If a porting house ports the game natively and correctly.. it'll be better, but its usually a rush job.

    Steam and source games are just as bad... they are not truly "native" 100% as the major slowness part in Wine (DirectX->OpenGL) still exists in Source games, as Valve just made a translation layer for graphics like Wine uses built in... while everything non-DirectX Graphics runs native.
     
  14. Cougarcat, Feb 12, 2011
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    I'm pretty sure Rob Barris debunked this somewhere...maybe he'll cone out of the woodwork and reply. Edit: here we are, http://netkas.org/?p=435

    GTA IV was an awful port that needs a quad core to run effectively, even in Windows. So bootcamp is definitely the way to go--you need all the performance you can get.
     
  15. doh123 macrumors 65816

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    thats not a debunking.. its him simply saying it doesn't matter, he thinks the performance is the same.
     

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