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rich2k4

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Apr 15, 2009
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i installed it because i thought i needed it, but it turns out i don't, and i don't want it on my system. anyway to get rid of it?
 

SilentPanda

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Oct 8, 2002
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You might be able to uninstall it by putting in the Snow Leopard disc and running the Additional Packages.pkg (or whatever it is).

It only takes like 3 MB on your disc though so I don't know that there is too much reason to remove it.
 

rich2k4

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Apr 15, 2009
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i tried that, it doesn't let me uninstall.

i'm just worried it might somehow slow down my system
 

zenoran

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Aug 19, 2009
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i tried that, it doesn't let me uninstall.

i'm just worried it might somehow slow down my system

supposedly it only runs when it's needed and there is no trace otherwise. disk space is the only drawback of having it installed.
 

mcmanus7

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Oct 30, 2008
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as mentioned above Rosetta is only a 2-3 mb install.... and only runs when it is needed therefore it really has no impact on your computer unless you REALLY need that 2-3 mb back...
 

TheSpaz

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Jun 20, 2005
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as mentioned above Rosetta is only a 2-3 mb install.... and only runs when it is needed therefore it really has no impact on your computer unless you REALLY need that 2-3 mb back...

Hahahahaha!

The only reason I refuse to install Rosetta is because I'm trying to train myself not to use old PPC apps. If I try to open a PPC app (like Iconographer for example) and it wants me to install Rosetta, I just abandon that idea and try to find an intel app that does the same thing.
 

maflynn

macrumors Haswell
May 3, 2009
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Hahahahaha!

The only reason I refuse to install Rosetta is because I'm trying to train myself not to use old PPC apps. If I try to open a PPC app (like Iconographer for example) and it wants me to install Rosetta, I just abandon that idea and try to find an intel app that does the same thing.

That doesn't work when there's no other apps or ways to use something. For instance, some drivers require it and w/o your scanner or printer won't work :(
 

TheSpaz

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Jun 20, 2005
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That doesn't work when there's no other apps or ways to use something. For instance, some drivers require it and w/o your scanner or printer won't work :(

True. Fortunately, I don't have that problem, but everyone's needs are different right?
 

rdowns

macrumors Penryn
Jul 11, 2003
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I didn't install it and the MS Office installer needed it. Not like I'm going to obsess the drive space.
 

Amdahl

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Jul 28, 2004
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Hahahahaha!

The only reason I refuse to install Rosetta is because I'm trying to train myself not to use old PPC apps. If I try to open a PPC app (like Iconographer for example) and it wants me to install Rosetta, I just abandon that idea and try to find an intel app that does the same thing.

I'm curious... What do you see if open Terminal and do
Code:
ls -l /private/var/db/dyld
 

Rainier42

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Aug 21, 2009
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There is an application/utility called Monolingual (http://monolingual.sourceforge.net/) that allows you to delete all languages from your machine that you feel you don't need. Under the third tab, labeled Architectures, there are entries for removing PPC code. Just be careful ... if you remove something that is needed, you may have to reload your OS.
 

rich2k4

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Apr 15, 2009
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so there is absolutely no way of uninstalling rosetta if i don't want it at all
 

DOUGHNUT

macrumors regular
Jan 8, 2006
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try this,
go to finder, press command-f to bring up spotlight,
under the left drop down box, select other and select system files (meaning, spotlight will include system files when searching),
right drop down box select "are included"
select File Name on the top spotlight bar.

spotlight search "rosetta" and delete the files. i don't know if you're gonna break anything since you're tinkering with system files, so i personally wouldn't try it...but if it really bothers you, you have no other choice.
 

calderone

Cancelled
Aug 28, 2009
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In all seriousness, it isn't a huge deal. It will not slow you down just by being there. Just avoid PPC apps. But here you go. Rosetta is in:

Code:
/usr/libexec/oah/
This is what the bom from the Rosetta package reveals.

I am also curious to know what the result of:

Code:
ls -l /private/var/db/dyld

For those who did not install Rosetta. Since the bom didn't include paths to there, I am guessing these:

Code:
dyld_shared_cache_rosetta
dyld_shared_cache_rosetta.map

Come from somewhere else during installation, and are probably installed by default.

There is an application/utility called Monolingual (http://monolingual.sourceforge.net/) that allows you to delete all languages from your machine that you feel you don't need. Under the third tab, labeled Architectures, there are entries for removing PPC code. Just be careful ... if you remove something that is needed, you may have to reload your OS.

This removes PPC code from applications, it does not remove the actual translator, i.e. Rosetta.
 

xraydoc

macrumors demi-god
Oct 9, 2005
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The only reason I refuse to install Rosetta is because I'm trying to train myself not to use old PPC apps. If I try to open a PPC app (like Iconographer for example) and it wants me to install Rosetta, I just abandon that idea and try to find an intel app that does the same thing.

Ditto. Though if I end up needing it at some point I'm definitely not going to obsess about it.
 

sidewinder

macrumors 68020
Dec 10, 2008
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Northern California
I am also curious to know what the result of:

Code:
ls -l /private/var/db/dyld

Code:
$ ls -l /private/var/db/dyld
total 1166312
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  199147520 Aug 28 14:04 dyld_shared_cache_i386
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel      49274 Aug 28 14:04 dyld_shared_cache_i386.map
-rw-r--r--  1 root  admin  200429568 Aug 31 22:02 dyld_shared_cache_rosetta
-rw-r--r--  1 root  admin      41832 Aug 31 22:02 dyld_shared_cache_rosetta.map
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  197427200 Aug 28 14:04 dyld_shared_cache_x86_64
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel      48528 Aug 28 14:04 dyld_shared_cache_x86_64.map
drwxr-xr-x  8 root  wheel        272 Jul 14 01:58 shared_region_roots

S-
 

Ramashalanka

macrumors regular
Dec 26, 2008
125
81
Lanka Ravi Shanka
I am also curious to know what the result of:

Code:
ls -l /private/var/db/dyld

For those who did not install Rosetta.

Code:
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  199155712  1 Sep 17:58 dyld_shared_cache_i386
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel      49274  1 Sep 17:58 dyld_shared_cache_i386.map
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  197373952  1 Sep 17:58 dyld_shared_cache_x86_64
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel      48528  1 Sep 17:58 dyld_shared_cache_x86_64.map
drwxr-xr-x  8 root  wheel        272 14 Jul 20:58 shared_region_roots
 

Amdahl

macrumors 65816
Jul 28, 2004
1,438
1
Ramashalanka, how about this one:

Code:
file /System/Library/Frameworks/Foundation.framework/Versions/Current/Foundation
 

Ramashalanka

macrumors regular
Dec 26, 2008
125
81
Lanka Ravi Shanka
Ramashalanka, how about this one:

Code:
file /System/Library/Frameworks/Foundation.framework/Versions/Current/Foundation

This is the size of the file that's there, is that what you were asking for? I don't have a machine with Rosetta to see if it's any bigger with that installed.

Code:
lrwxr-xr-x    1 root  wheel        28  1 Sep 17:50 CodeResources -> _CodeSignature/CodeResources
-rwxr-xr-x    1 root  wheel  11760720 17 Jul 17:27 Foundation
drwxr-xr-x  128 root  wheel      4352 17 Jul 17:26 Headers
drwxr-xr-x   27 root  wheel       918  1 Sep 17:51 Resources
drwxr-xr-x    3 root  wheel       102 17 Jul 17:27 _CodeSignature
 

Amdahl

macrumors 65816
Jul 28, 2004
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This is the size of the file that's there, is that what you were asking for? I don't have a machine with Rosetta to see if it's any bigger with that installed.

Code:
lrwxr-xr-x    1 root  wheel        28  1 Sep 17:50 CodeResources -> _CodeSignature/CodeResources
-rwxr-xr-x    1 root  wheel  11760720 17 Jul 17:27 Foundation
drwxr-xr-x  128 root  wheel      4352 17 Jul 17:26 Headers
drwxr-xr-x   27 root  wheel       918  1 Sep 17:51 Resources
drwxr-xr-x    3 root  wheel       102 17 Jul 17:27 _CodeSignature

Well, I have Rosetta (10.5), and mine is 18159328 supporting four architectures (AMD64, x86, ppc, ppc64)

So, that likely means that being able to run PowerPC code takes only 2.8MB, and doesn't actually put any PPC code in your system. People who dislike Rosetta are irrational.

If you can run the file command, that would help. I want to see what is in it. I don't think installing Rosetta has any effect, since Rosetta is only 2.8MB. The question was whether Snow Leopard still included PPC code in the libraries, which it appears it does not. But PPC was only included in the libraries so that PPC machines could boot and run, not so Rosetta would run.
 

Ramashalanka

macrumors regular
Dec 26, 2008
125
81
Lanka Ravi Shanka
If you can run the file command, that would help.

Interestingly, there is some ppc in there:

Code:
$ file Foundation
Foundation: Mach-O universal binary with 3 architectures
Foundation (for architecture x86_64):	Mach-O 64-bit dynamically linked shared library x86_64
Foundation (for architecture i386):	Mach-O dynamically linked shared library i386
Foundation (for architecture ppc7400):	Mach-O dynamically linked shared library ppc

I'll probably install Rosetta eventually, I just don't need any PPC software at the moment.
 

Neotyguy40

macrumors regular
Jul 15, 2009
152
0
I only needed rosetta for an installer. And now I don't need it anymore.

Anyone know how I can uninstall it? I know it doesn't do much, but I still want to uninstall it.
 

Amdahl

macrumors 65816
Jul 28, 2004
1,438
1
I only needed rosetta for an installer. And now I don't need it anymore.

Anyone know how I can uninstall it? I know it doesn't do much, but I still want to uninstall it.

Try an Erase & Install. And use candles too. They help.
 
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