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Re: FAKE.

Originally posted by macriffic
It's a fake. Although it looks like a photo Apple might use in terms of its angle, notice that the edge of the face tilts back. Apple always shoots their photos with the edge of face straight up and down--go check the Apple website.

This is the best evidence yet that the image is a fake, IMO. Companies like Apple are very strict about how their products are presented. The angles of photos are prescribed, as are the background and lighting. I am starting to believe, however, that the image, while fake, is very close to what we will actually see.

As far as the straight-on, full color image, it looks too good to be fake. The blown-out version of it makes it clear that the vents are not simply painted on, as there is variation in the color. More importantly, the pattern in each vent is different, so they are not clones of one vent. The dark horizontal bands are interior braces of the vents, barely visible from the outside. It's extremely unlikely that someone would think this far into a hoax.

There are two strikes against this image, though. First, It is so high quality (perfectly straight on, high resolution) that it would practically have to be from an original Apple press image. People with access to such originals are surely scarce, and not anxious to betray Apple's trust. Second, The horizontal ribs do not line up on opposite sides of the power button. This is not a deal-killer for me, as it could actually be that way because of the innards of the machine.

Of course, there's always the possibility that the images are plants, intended to feel out the consumers. It seems a little late to be doing coercive test marketing like that, though.

One thing is certain, though. The halftone image and the front panel image cannot both be real photographs, as the number of slots differs.
 
People have been talking about that reverse image or whatnot that shows an imprint...am I the only one that thinks it looks like a footprint/shoe print? Like it was laying on the ground and someone stepped on it.
 
Re: they almost have it...

Originally posted by acj
But it should be bigger, more square, and beige with two floppy drives.

WIth two floppy drives?? I thought Apple did away with built in floppy disk drives back in 1999 with the inception of the original iMac.
 
Re: Re: FAKE.

Originally posted by rogueimage
This is the best evidence yet that the image is a fake, IMO. Companies like Apple are very strict about how their products are presented. The angles of photos are prescribed, as are the background and lighting.

I don't really understand this logic. This image, if it is real, has obviously been through hell. I wouldn't be surprised if at some point in the alleged photopraph/print/crumple/scan sequence it happened to get tilted a few degrees. There isn't anything else in the image that provides a definite reference for horizontal.
 
Re: Re: Re: FAKE.

Originally posted by ozubahn
I don't really understand this logic. This image, if it is real, has obviously been through hell. I wouldn't be surprised if at some point in the alleged photopraph/print/crumple/scan sequence it happened to get tilted a few degrees. There isn't anything else in the image that provides a definite reference for horizontal.

If you measure the angle of the left front edge compared to the right front edge, they are quite different, indicating the shot is not straight on.
 
I took a spin with my nonexistant photoshopping skills, but have found: the apple logo matches snugly with a stock powermac photo, and that the lighter areas on the case also match up with a wand tolerance of ~15
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: FAKE.

Originally posted by rogueimage
If you measure the angle of the left front edge compared to the right front edge, they are quite different, indicating the shot is not straight on.

Ah, so you mean that it is not shot with the optical axis in a horizontal plane. I figured they might have chosen to sacrifice that luxury for the towering monolith look. :)
 
Re: It's got an error

Originally posted by veedubdrew
A comma always belongs within quotations, so it should have been "...OS X, codenamed 'Panther,'..." with the comma following the word Panther within its quotations.
It's a matter of editor preference and cultural habit. The British generally put quotes around only the quoted material, which is more sensible. Americans tend to include punctuation within the quotes, but this is not always true. So I don't think we can conclude anything one way or another.

By the way, this grammar issue was discussed in the words that just shouldn't be thread.

Edit: Have you seen the view count on this thread? It's now over 50,000. That's certainly an incentive for somebody to post fake photos of new hardware!
 
the appleinsider one and the one that started this thread are NOT the same

count the vent holes
ai one: 16
thread one: 22

wonder whos was made first?
 
my thoughts

If this is a real picture it is one of the drawings that is used in a catalog like B&H Photo.
Most of those places with a five million item inventory use small black and white drawings that resemble this picture a lot in style. Maybe that is what is blocked out, the resellers name.
I don't think apple would make a slot loading pro machine, but on the other hand maybe they have something we don't know about.
As far as ports on the front go, I agree with Blakespot, that the lower portion could be drop down panel that hides i/o.
If this were the machine I would not be surprised, if it was not the machine I also would not be surprised.
We?ll all know soon enough.
 
Re: It's got an error

Originally posted by veedubdrew
The invite to the apple store has a grammatical error in it. The part "...OS X, codenamed 'Panther', ..." is wrong.

A comma always belongs within quotations, so it should have been "...OS X, codenamed 'Panther,'..." with the comma following the word Panther within its quotations.

This isn't quite true. The "American" system dictates that periods and commas should go inside of quotation marks.

The "British" system however dictates that periods anc commas only go inside of quotation marks if they are part of the quote itself making "OS X, codenamed 'Panther', ..." perfectly valid.

Furthermore, there are a number of US schools that taught the British system, but the American system is used overwhelmingly by publishers. Either is perfectly valid and frankly the British system makes a bit more sense as it is consistent with how question and exclamation marks are handled.
 
Looks like a poorly designed PC-box...

Apple would never release anything like this un-cool thing. The new PowerMac might have the same size but with a MUCH more slick interface and with Apple-details!

From the picture I've seen - the small - it looks like a joke :eek:
 
another thing I thought of. Wouldnt this be the first instance that the new new case isnt a photgraph, but a snatched bit of printed media. I find that that hurts the credibility of this.
 
Originally posted by Jimong5
I took a spin with my nonexistant photoshopping skills, but have found: the apple logo matches snugly with a stock powermac photo, and that the lighter areas on the case also match up with a wand tolerance of ~15

An interesting experiment--but actually, the magic wand does not tell you anything about the two surfaces lining up. It just looks for contrast, which is naturally a combination of both layers. Stack any two similar images and the wand will do something like that.
 
Oh my god....

Measuring the parallax in the image, and using the magic wand in photoshop?? Unbelievable!

Here's my take on this.. Who gives a crap? Just watch the keynote speech and see for yourselves. Everyone's going to be let down anyway, right? Or how about going out and getting some fresh air. Drawing mockups in photoshop isn't fun, it's creepy.
 
Re: The Allure of Fake

Originally posted by iBot
...Then again, I was dead wrong about the leaked pics of the Mirrored-Drive Door PowerMacs last year. They, too, looked like bad amateur design to me -- and they turned out to be real. Maybe Apple has lost its flair for cutting-edge design.

Judging from your self assessment, and your admitted track record of being wrong, I somehow fail to see how Apple has "lost it's flair" for something that you cannot comprehend. :rolleyes:

For those that think this pic looks too much like a Dell server, I say "Good!"

I disagree that it looks like a Dell in anything other than it's basic form factor. The vertical lines combined with the aluminum enclosure and the possible translucent panels will definately make it unmistakeably Apple. It also creates a nice level of consistency across the entire Pro line.

All while easily fitting in the same space of a Taco Dell box. Think "seamless integration/replacement" from the perspective of the people that REALLY matter. The ones who can authorize the purchase of LARGE amounts of equipment like entire workgroups. These ARE NOT the individual employees/creative professionals working in an Art/Production department. They are the traditionally conservative Presidents, C.F.O.'s, Purchasing Agents, IT directors, etc. The people who OWN the place!!

This design, if real, would kill two birds with one stone.

1. Satisfy the conservatives with a familiar [square], professional looking industrial form factor.

2. Satisfy the creatives with a design that has already grown on me, and will inevitably grow on most everyone.

Think about it people. Look at a closed PowerBook. It's a metallic grey rectangle or square, and everybody wants it!!

Is it so hard to comprehend that Apple is launching an all out offensive on MS and Hell Computers by attacking them on their own turf, but with much more powerful ammo.?

Figure it out. The big money is NOT in the "onesie-twosie" sales, and they won't lose this anyway once the fever has caught on, it's in volume purchasing within the corporate and enterprise markets. This includes Apple's existing niche market of creative, medical, and technology environments but is expanding into the non-creative fields where RELIABILITY is key. Let Apple's representative's hit these places up with reviews like these: http://www.consumerreports.org/main...&FOLDER<>folder_id=162693&bmUID=1054224175175

"Hey Mr. President, take a look at this recent report [the one linked above] by an unbiased 3rd party [Consumer Reports] and tell me which one of these computer manufacturers is going to reduce your maintenace and repair costs, as well as your downtime?"

BAM!! THAT's what these people with the big bucks respond too young grasshoppers!!

Big Business = Big Money. 85% of Dell's success comes from this area, NOT the home users.

Sooo...ATTACK, APPLE, ATTACK!! Good Apple.

Everybody is so caught up in the "look" that hardly anyone has taken time to even mention what has mattered the most for months...it's a 64-bit 970 with Panther coming out shortly to support it at the OS level.

Hopefully a 970...with crossed fingers, toes, and other parts of my anatomy that I didn't even think I could cross :p

Just a side note about MS's decision to stop developing IE as a standalone application. Read the first line of my sig.!:D

Viva La Revolucion!!
 
Guys, first I can't believe anyone thinks this picture is real, let alone create this much discussion. Anyway, real or fake, we all know that it's whats inside that counts. 970!!!! 1.8MHZ.
 
Originally posted by JOHNGAETANO
970!!!! 1.8MHZ.

HAHAHAHAHHAHAH HILARIOUS!
Sorry! *sigh*
*goes back to his Amiga with 7 MHz* ;)

I must say, yay, we will see new desktops, no, it will not look like this.
 
It Could Be Real

Originally posted by Stike
HAHAHAHAHHAHAH HILARIOUS!
Sorry! *sigh*
*goes back to his Amiga with 7 MHz* ;)

I must say, yay, we will see new desktops, no, it will not look like this.


Ok, even though I don't like this design, there is a chance that this could be truly the new G5. When this picture was originally posted on this site, a few hours later, it was abrubtly taken down by Apple Legal because of something we didn't want to know. But then, we see the picture again, but in bottom front corners of this machine are blurred images. It might have been so that Apple Legal blurred out those images of the supposed new optical system, or front USB2.0 or whatever, and just showed us the box, maybe it will seem that that front bunch of whatever that is blurred, might be the most important thing about the G5, or could have had the logo which would have given it away.
Also, whoever said something about two floppy drives, WHAT??? The one on top is a slot loading cd (or probably a faster superdrive) and the bottom things are just probably what I said earlier, this is just my theory of it, who knows.
 
not saying that this is it but that british bloke who just won the award his team supposed to have done that give me slab of beer then ill say that looks nice till then that thing is about as new and refreshing as a wintell box on steroids...

Love the Photoshop smuge effect just like the box been smuged......
 
Considering that the picture still hangs there...

...it's a bull****.

It's a no-name PC with Apple logo Phtotshopped to it. Forget about it. Steve will never allow Ive to do something like that.
 
You may be onto something.......

Originally posted by pyrotoaster
This thing looks more like IBM's eServer xSeries.

Yes, eServer meets toaster, that's what this looks like. ;)

Hmmmmm?? What if it happened to be a collaboration of a server made by Apple & IBM?

They could assist Apple in making an enterprise server, and that would save Apple on R&D costs.:cool:
 
yet another processor waiting?

Could some native french-speaker provide translation of this macbid. article? Sound interesting


Je t'avais déjà parlé du "Cell" le prochain PowerPC. Et l'article ci-dessous parle des relations entre Apple et IBM.

www.extremetech.com/article2/0,3973,1129944,00.asp


La première phrase de l'article laisse déjà entendre que Apple serait un utilisateur du Cell:

"The man responsible for both the "Cell" processor and the microprocessors powering Apple's forthcoming Macintoshes"

Le Cell rassemble dans une seule puce, 4 processeurs et une mémoire cache de second niveau. Ils sortiront fin 2004. Et ils seront utilisés par la PlayStation 3 en 2005, dans une version plus musclée avec 9 processeurs dans une puce. Donc l'histoire de la Xstation avec de 4 à 64 processeurs, c'est plus qu'une rumeur.

Le Cell est un processeur 64 bits, simplifié. Il est ultrascalaire. On supprime ainsi le maître de cérémonie qui gère toutes les instructions et qui consomme tellement d'énergie dans le PowerPC 970. Les unités entières, flottantes et vectorielles (altivec) sont fusionnées dans une seule unité. L'avantage c'est qu'il consomme beaucoup moins de courant, qu'il est beaucoup plus petit et que l'on peut faire varier facilement le rapport puissance/consommation. On peut en mettre plusieurs dans une seule puce. L'inconvénient c'est qu'il est moins performant à fréquence égale. Mais à probablement 3 ou 4 GHz, c'est relatif.

Un dernier avantage c'est qu'il est facile de créer un tel processeur avec l'architecture PowerPC. Alors que l'architecture Intel ne s'y prête pas. IBM mise sur le nombre pour battre Intel, qui mise sur la puissance pure.
 
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