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Re: yet another processor waiting?
"The first sentence of the article leads one to understand that Apple will be using the "Cell" processor.
The Cell combines 4 processors and an L2 cache on one chip, and will be out at the end of 2004. They will be used in the PS3 in 2005, in a heavy duty version with 9 processors on one chip, so the story of the Xsation having from 4 to 64 processors is more than a rumour.
The Cell is a simplified 64-bit processor. It is ultra-scalar. Therefore it dispenses with the controller which manages all the instructions and uses so much power in the PPC 970. The integer units, floating and vector (altivec) are combined into one. The advantages are that this uses much less power, is much smaller, and the output to power consumption ratio can be easily adjusted. One can put several onto a single chip. The disadvantage is that it performs less well at ?equal frequency. But at a probable speed of 3 to 4 GHz, it's all relative...
One last advantage is that it is easy to create such a processor using the PowerPC architecture. Intel's architecture does not lend itself to this. IBM is thus relying on quantity to compete with Intel, who are relying on pure power.
Not native, but fluent...
"The first sentence of the article leads one to understand that Apple will be using the "Cell" processor.
The Cell combines 4 processors and an L2 cache on one chip, and will be out at the end of 2004. They will be used in the PS3 in 2005, in a heavy duty version with 9 processors on one chip, so the story of the Xsation having from 4 to 64 processors is more than a rumour.
The Cell is a simplified 64-bit processor. It is ultra-scalar. Therefore it dispenses with the controller which manages all the instructions and uses so much power in the PPC 970. The integer units, floating and vector (altivec) are combined into one. The advantages are that this uses much less power, is much smaller, and the output to power consumption ratio can be easily adjusted. One can put several onto a single chip. The disadvantage is that it performs less well at ?equal frequency. But at a probable speed of 3 to 4 GHz, it's all relative...
One last advantage is that it is easy to create such a processor using the PowerPC architecture. Intel's architecture does not lend itself to this. IBM is thus relying on quantity to compete with Intel, who are relying on pure power.
I'm revising my opinion of the picture having seen the 3D version posted a couple of pages back. Makes it look much more palatable. I might just find space for one after all....
thankx for the translation...
Don't know if there's any truth to it, and frankly, with all the 970 stuff going on, I dont really care at the moment.
But it does make me happy to see IBM so active on the processor front anyway...
Don't know if there's any truth to it, and frankly, with all the 970 stuff going on, I dont really care at the moment.
But it does make me happy to see IBM so active on the processor front anyway...
It may just be real..... but Apple may at this point see no use in taking it down, due to the incredible amount of people that have already seen this pic (almost everyone that has a whim to see it).
They may just ride this one out, and shut up all the people that know more aobut Ives, than Ives himself; makes you think of "Misery" doesn't it.
I'm sure that when the majority of you finally see it, it will blow you away because while most of you claim you know his style, what I know that is consistent (stronger than how it looks) is the attention to detail that is always present.
You all make an assumption based on looking at something that you cannot make out. At least wait until it makes its debut (in a few days I hope), and then make comments. You guys have to understand one thing about Apple; they have REAL artists at work for them, and they have the gift of making even "pigeon-poop" look gorgeous.
If this happens to be a bonafide pic get ready to see a gorgeous box unvieled.
I think it will have chrome handles from looking at the picture. (I could be wrong, though)
You know how car manufacturers will take their cars in development out for a spin sometimes, and the auto magazine spy photographers will shoot them up? The auto companies always clad their development vehicles in fake body components, to disguise the actual shape of the car and not give too much away.
It's all about viral marketing from the start, as well as real world use testing.
In Apple's case, they probably supplied their big vendors who produce catalogs (MacWarehouse, etc...) with stand-in images (in the design industry, we call these FPO, for placement only). These FPOs are the exact dimensions of what the real photo will be, but in order to keep rumor junkies in the dark until the unveiling, they are not the actual product.
After the Stevenote, everybody who had an FPO will be able to grab the latest final images of the box design, drop it into their layout, and send the catalog to press. This also explains the reason for the halftoned image. It was simply printed from one of the design stations.
It's all about viral marketing from the start, as well as real world use testing.
In Apple's case, they probably supplied their big vendors who produce catalogs (MacWarehouse, etc...) with stand-in images (in the design industry, we call these FPO, for placement only). These FPOs are the exact dimensions of what the real photo will be, but in order to keep rumor junkies in the dark until the unveiling, they are not the actual product.
After the Stevenote, everybody who had an FPO will be able to grab the latest final images of the box design, drop it into their layout, and send the catalog to press. This also explains the reason for the halftoned image. It was simply printed from one of the design stations.
Re: Considering that the picture still hangs there...
Yeah, it could also be a long lost Apple pic from about 1990.
The only thing we know for certain is it ain't no G5. And yes, I would bet my house on it!
Classic joke, though. Very funny. Some people actually believe it. That's what fuels these pranksters. The more outrageous, the more laughs!
Yeah, it could also be a long lost Apple pic from about 1990.
The only thing we know for certain is it ain't no G5. And yes, I would bet my house on it!
Classic joke, though. Very funny. Some people actually believe it. That's what fuels these pranksters. The more outrageous, the more laughs!
Re: Re: Considering that the picture still hangs there...
I would like to thank the hoaxer or informant... adds excitement either way.
I have gone back and forth on this but I have a feeling this might be the real G5... simply for the fact that no other reports or pics or anything has surfaced. If Apple is really going to release the G5 in a few days -- whether it is for sale or to pre order -- it is just impossible to keep a secret. I mean, think about it -- there hasn't even been a half-way decent description of it. By virtue of no other information this has to be the frontrunner. Either that or there will be no G5 in the next few days.
I would like to thank the hoaxer or informant... adds excitement either way.
I have gone back and forth on this but I have a feeling this might be the real G5... simply for the fact that no other reports or pics or anything has surfaced. If Apple is really going to release the G5 in a few days -- whether it is for sale or to pre order -- it is just impossible to keep a secret. I mean, think about it -- there hasn't even been a half-way decent description of it. By virtue of no other information this has to be the frontrunner. Either that or there will be no G5 in the next few days.
I hacked into the FBI's website and downloaded their super secret de-blurring spy software.
I then went to work with the special colorizing software I downloaded from Ted Turner's website.
I can't quite make it out, but it appears to be a logo for the new operating system.
I then went to work with the special colorizing software I downloaded from Ted Turner's website.
I can't quite make it out, but it appears to be a logo for the new operating system.
Now that was a cool case. With the amount of Apple fans running around out there using their 3D rendering mad skillz for good and not evil, it's no wonder we are getting inundated with "new"designs.
Anybody can say "this was swiped from Apple!!! Super-duper secret. Please don't ask questions!!!" and create an aura of intrigue.
Anybody can say "this was swiped from Apple!!! Super-duper secret. Please don't ask questions!!!" and create an aura of intrigue.
I am not sure if this has been said, or if we are even still talking about the original picture from the beginning of this thread, but, the slot-loading drive would be slower than the other drives correct? What if it was an Xstation or whatever, it wouldnt matter because those don't need Superdrives and such.
Re: ROM Drive Eject Button
Um, none of the PowerMacs have had an eject button for years. (just look at the Quicksilver and WindTunnel cases)
Um, none of the PowerMacs have had an eject button for years. (just look at the Quicksilver and WindTunnel cases)
Re: new design
Are you confirming that this is the new design? Who are you? And don't answer "nobody really"
Are you confirming that this is the new design? Who are you? And don't answer "nobody really"
Unlikely! Look carefully at the shadows. Looks like somebody's paper mache (sp?) rendering of the machine. Look at the shadows on the side. It looks like unevenly smooth paper. It isn't the actual machine, even if the design is identical.
You people are killing me.
First, let me say that I think the "photo" is fake. However, I think it is entirely possible that someone had access to a glamor photo of the new machine, and in an attempt to hide his identity, he doctored it to look the way it does. If he had access to the original merchandising artwork, at this stage of the game, it would be very likely that he would be discovered if he released it.
So, from where I stand.. I think it is probably an accurate representation of the new machines. If I'm wrong, then great. If I am right, then so what.
However, all of you tripping over yourselves to declare that it can't possibly be real, or even a representation of what is real, are precisely the people that the adage, being doomed to repeat the past, is written about. Ask yourself, and answer honestly.. did you believe the photos of the G4 Cube were real?
First, let me say that I think the "photo" is fake. However, I think it is entirely possible that someone had access to a glamor photo of the new machine, and in an attempt to hide his identity, he doctored it to look the way it does. If he had access to the original merchandising artwork, at this stage of the game, it would be very likely that he would be discovered if he released it.
So, from where I stand.. I think it is probably an accurate representation of the new machines. If I'm wrong, then great. If I am right, then so what.
However, all of you tripping over yourselves to declare that it can't possibly be real, or even a representation of what is real, are precisely the people that the adage, being doomed to repeat the past, is written about. Ask yourself, and answer honestly.. did you believe the photos of the G4 Cube were real?
That is a good theory you have there.
The metallic texture has not have been applied to the front panel so the final product may look better than it does to us now. It does not seem that much longer than the PowerMacs of today. It may be FW800 & USB 2.0 ports in the blurred corner or it may be an iPod slot.
Regardless of the case, it is the next-generation motherboard that will matter most.
Possible XServe?
Without reading the previous 400 posts, I am going to throw a thought out there. Forgive me if someone already stated this.
Anyone think that this is NOT the new powermac enclose, but rather...An alternative enclosoure for XServe?
Makes sense to me, not every enterprise/school/etc. wants a rack mountable server enclosure. Right? And those people don't give two cents about industrial design (ie curvy pretty cases).
Think about it.
Not many people put multiple Optical Drives (CD ROM, CDRW, etc) in a server box. A simple slot loading Drive is all that is needed. The interesting part is you can see the back of this machine.
I wouldn't put it past them. Why not offer XServe in different enclosures?
JK
Without reading the previous 400 posts, I am going to throw a thought out there. Forgive me if someone already stated this.
Anyone think that this is NOT the new powermac enclose, but rather...An alternative enclosoure for XServe?
Makes sense to me, not every enterprise/school/etc. wants a rack mountable server enclosure. Right? And those people don't give two cents about industrial design (ie curvy pretty cases).
Think about it.
Not many people put multiple Optical Drives (CD ROM, CDRW, etc) in a server box. A simple slot loading Drive is all that is needed. The interesting part is you can see the back of this machine.
I wouldn't put it past them. Why not offer XServe in different enclosures?
JK
The Apple zeitgeist fuses form and function to create an immersive computing experience that transcends the ordinary.
Apple eschews the ordinary for stylish and exclusive designs.
The box depicted is neither stylish nor exclusive. And no euphemism, including the often used industrial, can change this ugly duckling into a swan. At best, its a stylish window air conditioner, or, perhaps, with a handle at the topa chic animal cage.
Apple eschews the ordinary for stylish and exclusive designs.
The box depicted is neither stylish nor exclusive. And no euphemism, including the often used industrial, can change this ugly duckling into a swan. At best, its a stylish window air conditioner, or, perhaps, with a handle at the topa chic animal cage.