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Is this It (Photo)?
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New macs on June 23th?
Take a look at this link, 'old' macs sell out, 'new' macs to come
http://shop.cancom.de/
Take a look at this link, 'old' macs sell out, 'new' macs to come
http://shop.cancom.de/
I hope that's just a prototype for testers and such, kind of like the big X for the Xbox, except the whole thing got reversed and that looked cooler han the actual thing.
Why I believe it is the real deal.
I don't believe the halftone issue is as clear as it appears. I believe the jpeg compression is also involved in the pattern. It breaks things into little squares and this may be influencing the pattern quite a bit.
If this person were to print the image from a laser printer then that would explain the pattern. Remember there will be a large marketing and advertising campaign to launch the machines. You can bet images have been provided to media outlets across the globe. It is very believable that a production artist at a major newspaper/magazine/whatever had access to images supplied by Apple's agency.
So why do I believe it. First I remember when the iMac G4 was about to be released and everyone was designing their own version of what they thought it would look like. Usually amateurs try TO HARD and things are pushed to far. Just look at PC's. They substitute Great design with over the top cases and as a result look cheap. The reserved lines and conformity to the Apple look and feel, i.e. Power Book, xServe and other PRO products makes this very believable. Remember Apple has invested considerably in the Pro video and Film Markets. This has a very industrial look that I believe would do well in that market.
Look at the back of the machine and notice how it is translucent. Judging by the ipod and ibook (both relatively square) the final look and feel of this thing is going to be gorgeous. (I don't think a fake would have included such a subtle detail)
Apple is a market leader in ID. Remember when the imac came out and everything was Bondi blue, from trash cans to Kleenex boxes. Now, as the PC world is trying to imitate apple with curvy lines Apple has moved on and again left them to catch up.
Look at the grill on the side of a power book or ibook. Looks very consistent.
I believe this is the real deal.
I don't believe the halftone issue is as clear as it appears. I believe the jpeg compression is also involved in the pattern. It breaks things into little squares and this may be influencing the pattern quite a bit.
If this person were to print the image from a laser printer then that would explain the pattern. Remember there will be a large marketing and advertising campaign to launch the machines. You can bet images have been provided to media outlets across the globe. It is very believable that a production artist at a major newspaper/magazine/whatever had access to images supplied by Apple's agency.
So why do I believe it. First I remember when the iMac G4 was about to be released and everyone was designing their own version of what they thought it would look like. Usually amateurs try TO HARD and things are pushed to far. Just look at PC's. They substitute Great design with over the top cases and as a result look cheap. The reserved lines and conformity to the Apple look and feel, i.e. Power Book, xServe and other PRO products makes this very believable. Remember Apple has invested considerably in the Pro video and Film Markets. This has a very industrial look that I believe would do well in that market.
Look at the back of the machine and notice how it is translucent. Judging by the ipod and ibook (both relatively square) the final look and feel of this thing is going to be gorgeous. (I don't think a fake would have included such a subtle detail)
Apple is a market leader in ID. Remember when the imac came out and everything was Bondi blue, from trash cans to Kleenex boxes. Now, as the PC world is trying to imitate apple with curvy lines Apple has moved on and again left them to catch up.
Look at the grill on the side of a power book or ibook. Looks very consistent.
I believe this is the real deal.
What's with the two floppy drives? (Sorry if someone asked, but I'm way too lazy to read all of those posts.)
We can justify this thing until the proverbial cows come to the proverbial home, but it just doesn't seem real. It's too boxy, too big, to be a Mac. It also needs another optical drive, and some ports in front.
Devil's Advocate:
Maybe it's picture of test machine used to put the processor through its rounds.
Still, I don't think this is the best Jonathan Ive can come up with. We're in store for something at least a little better looking.
A very interesting article could be written about the reactions of people to this picture. One of the striking things about design in general is how little infomation is conveyed by a picture, especially one as bad as this, but paradoxically how most people can view a picture such as this and believe they can visualize the actual item. The simple truth is that the vast majority of people lack this skill, though it is characteristic of great designers.
Rewind back a few years, when the PowerBook G4 Titanium was first introduced. If you had been using a Pismo PowerBook (which was an excellent design) and someone had shown you a picture of the new design (especially a picture of the quality of the one here), you probably would have reacted just as many people here are: It's too square, it lacks flair, it's too generic "Wintel". Now that we are equally familiar with both designs however, we can appreciate: (1) the importance of material itself in good design, (2) the subtle elements of the design that draw us in, and (3) the greater refinement and elegance of the G4 compared to the Pismo. In other words, a knowledgable person who had seen neither before would be able to tell which one came first and which came second.
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Rewind back a few years, when the PowerBook G4 Titanium was first introduced. If you had been using a Pismo PowerBook (which was an excellent design) and someone had shown you a picture of the new design (especially a picture of the quality of the one here), you probably would have reacted just as many people here are: It's too square, it lacks flair, it's too generic "Wintel". Now that we are equally familiar with both designs however, we can appreciate: (1) the importance of material itself in good design, (2) the subtle elements of the design that draw us in, and (3) the greater refinement and elegance of the G4 compared to the Pismo. In other words, a knowledgable person who had seen neither before would be able to tell which one came first and which came second.
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i have no vote on fake/non fake, but its definitely not a best buy photo.
i work there, and am forced to study the circulars. there has been no picture thus far in bb flyers like that.
also, bb is selling ipods but i know my store doesnt sell computers, nor have we received word we're going to.
because we'd know. so, you know, we could take one for the good of the team.
or something.
anyhow.
not best buy.
maybe some other crappy retailer.
i work there, and am forced to study the circulars. there has been no picture thus far in bb flyers like that.
also, bb is selling ipods but i know my store doesnt sell computers, nor have we received word we're going to.
because we'd know. so, you know, we could take one for the good of the team.
or something.
anyhow.
not best buy.
maybe some other crappy retailer.
WOW... this is the first picture of the G5 (fake or not), and observe the reactions! Macrumors, AppleInsider, SpyMac... all "too busy"! Look at the the number of views. OMG....
This one is the most anticipated pice of Apple hardware in its history!
I wonder who/what made "Dontask" pull the pic form the original location.
When I go to work tomorrow morning (for most of you about midnight ), things will have cleared up. Maybe Apple made him pull it....
BTW, the more I look at it, the more I like it. I wouldn't mind having one ON my desk.
This one is the most anticipated pice of Apple hardware in its history!
I wonder who/what made "Dontask" pull the pic form the original location.
When I go to work tomorrow morning (for most of you about midnight
), things will have cleared up. Maybe Apple made him pull it....BTW, the more I look at it, the more I like it. I wouldn't mind having one ON my desk.
Regardless of whether or not it is a fake, this discussion and the photo, which can be found at www.studio2f.com/misc/ (thanks), evoke two thoughts.
1. The design is reminiscent of FrogDesign's "Snow White" series, which defined the Mac II's, through the early Quadras (which is interesting and personally appealing, though I like the curves and organic feel of the El Capitan case)
2. I find the lack of an eject button (even on the drives themselves) to be extremely frustrating when there is a problem and you need to boot off of a CD-ROM or get a bootable CD out after a restart, to prevent the mac from booting up from it. (True, you can hold the mouse button to kick out a CD, but that is a kludgy solution that doesn't provide the user with enough time to swap bootable CDs before the internal HD is selected as the boot drive.)
1. The design is reminiscent of FrogDesign's "Snow White" series, which defined the Mac II's, through the early Quadras (which is interesting and personally appealing, though I like the curves and organic feel of the El Capitan case)
2. I find the lack of an eject button (even on the drives themselves) to be extremely frustrating when there is a problem and you need to boot off of a CD-ROM or get a bootable CD out after a restart, to prevent the mac from booting up from it. (True, you can hold the mouse button to kick out a CD, but that is a kludgy solution that doesn't provide the user with enough time to swap bootable CDs before the internal HD is selected as the boot drive.)
please post someone
can somebody post this picture somewhere PLEASE!!!
ive been waiting for a link that works.
TIA
can somebody post this picture somewhere PLEASE!!!
ive been waiting for a link that works.
TIA
I thought it was ugly at first, and I still do. I need a new PowerMac so badly, I really could care less about its looks.
Now that the image has been pulled from the site, I really do think it's real. (I managed to save a copy of it before it was pulled.)
I need a new PowerMac so badly, I really could care less about its looks.Now that the image has been pulled from the site, I really do think it's real. (I managed to save a copy of it before it was pulled.)
Good point. I think that it would be possible to put this button somewhere else on the box, say, in the back, or even inside the space created by the lower handle... that'd be an ok place to put front usb and firewire ports.
See it in person first -- we ALWAYS hate new Apple designs at first
I think it's very possible, at least. Remember that a large (or at least vocal) segment of the public, including apple fans, always HATE just about any new design from Apple--until they get used to it. Steve-era Examples:
TiBook
AlBook 17"
Clamshell iBook
Current iBook
iMac G3 Original
iMac G3 Fruit
Flower Power & Dalmatian iMacs
iMac G4 (and then the 17" bothered people all over again)
eMac
PowerMac G3 B&W
PowerMac G4
PowerMac G4 QuickSilver
PowerMac G4 Mirrored Drive Doors
New iPods and docks
Pro Mouse
Small iMac & tower keyboards
Current Pro Keyboards
New eMac Keyboards
Studio & Cinema Displays
Pro Speakers
Soundsticks and iSub (case designed by Apple I believe)
G4 Cube
Xserve line
Most of those came to be widely regarded as works of art AFTER the intital "oh no! it's different!"... While others (Flower Power??) only a mother could love. And some of the most-hated have been RECENT designs. The new eMac keyboard, the new iPod, G4 MDD, flat iMac, etc.
Also note that when seen in person (or better photos), in color and detail, the impression made wouldn't be the same as in that bad photo. It's a shame if one bad photo takes some initial punch away from what may be a beautiful product. (The early photos of QuickSilver looked awful but were accurate--and that turned out to be the nicest looking tower ever, I think!) I think a design like this could look great in person, even though I don't love what I've just seen. I certainly don't hate it--and it certainly looks a LOT better than Wintel PCs. Very industrial. A machine to take seriously. This is Not a Toy.
And remember you'll be looking at new displays, keyboards, and mice very likely--the tower itself may not be the high point of the physical design.
Believable factors: handles but less prominent, super-simple, rectangular, clear-and-metal styling, Apple logo on the side but not front, vertical vents like Xserve (and PowerBooks)--which could conceal the speaker, multiple drive bays yet also a slot-load main drive. It all looks too polished and nice to be a bare-bones test case, although it could always be a design prototype. (And the low image quality is clever, if it's fake.)
That bottom-most "drive bay" panel (or the bottom "handle") could actually conceal front ports--although the USB hubs in the displays and keyboards has always been a better answer, at least for USB. And the vents, aside from providing great quiet?) cooling, could well hide an eject-hole for optical drive troubleshooting.
Plus it's what's inside that counts. (Which, if it's anything exciting, still puts the actual ship date months away by my guess.)
And of course, it could also be a fake! But I won't complain if it's real.
(PS, a MacCentral thread had the image too I believe--although traffic will no doubt kill it.)
I think it's very possible, at least. Remember that a large (or at least vocal) segment of the public, including apple fans, always HATE just about any new design from Apple--until they get used to it. Steve-era Examples:
TiBook
AlBook 17"
Clamshell iBook
Current iBook
iMac G3 Original
iMac G3 Fruit
Flower Power & Dalmatian iMacs
iMac G4 (and then the 17" bothered people all over again)
eMac
PowerMac G3 B&W
PowerMac G4
PowerMac G4 QuickSilver
PowerMac G4 Mirrored Drive Doors
New iPods and docks
Pro Mouse
Small iMac & tower keyboards
Current Pro Keyboards
New eMac Keyboards
Studio & Cinema Displays
Pro Speakers
Soundsticks and iSub (case designed by Apple I believe)
G4 Cube
Xserve line
Most of those came to be widely regarded as works of art AFTER the intital "oh no! it's different!"... While others (Flower Power??) only a mother could love. And some of the most-hated have been RECENT designs. The new eMac keyboard, the new iPod, G4 MDD, flat iMac, etc.
Also note that when seen in person (or better photos), in color and detail, the impression made wouldn't be the same as in that bad photo. It's a shame if one bad photo takes some initial punch away from what may be a beautiful product. (The early photos of QuickSilver looked awful but were accurate--and that turned out to be the nicest looking tower ever, I think!) I think a design like this could look great in person, even though I don't love what I've just seen. I certainly don't hate it--and it certainly looks a LOT better than Wintel PCs. Very industrial. A machine to take seriously. This is Not a Toy.
And remember you'll be looking at new displays, keyboards, and mice very likely--the tower itself may not be the high point of the physical design.
Believable factors: handles but less prominent, super-simple, rectangular, clear-and-metal styling, Apple logo on the side but not front, vertical vents like Xserve (and PowerBooks)--which could conceal the speaker, multiple drive bays yet also a slot-load main drive. It all looks too polished and nice to be a bare-bones test case, although it could always be a design prototype. (And the low image quality is clever, if it's fake.)
That bottom-most "drive bay" panel (or the bottom "handle") could actually conceal front ports--although the USB hubs in the displays and keyboards has always been a better answer, at least for USB. And the vents, aside from providing great quiet?) cooling, could well hide an eject-hole for optical drive troubleshooting.
Plus it's what's inside that counts. (Which, if it's anything exciting, still puts the actual ship date months away by my guess.)
And of course, it could also be a fake! But I won't complain if it's real.
(PS, a MacCentral thread had the image too I believe--although traffic will no doubt kill it.)
Wrong. Grab a newspaper and scan an image at twice the size in inches not dpi and you'll see the dots. That's the reason you see the dots, because this printed image has been blown up, otherwise the dots are barely noticeable. And your wrinkle theory is incorrect, they are not deep enough to sway the dots, scanners are notorious for picking up the slightest less then perfectly flat imperfections.
Apple Design
If any of you are wondering what "Snow White" or FrogDesign are, check out Apple Design: The Work of the Apple Industrial Design Group, which is a great (though rare and expensive) book that focuses on Apple's designs from 1982-1997. It's pretty amazing to see 'what might have been' (including the extreme close ups of multi-colored eMates in the last few pages.)
If any of you are wondering what "Snow White" or FrogDesign are, check out Apple Design: The Work of the Apple Industrial Design Group, which is a great (though rare and expensive) book that focuses on Apple's designs from 1982-1997. It's pretty amazing to see 'what might have been' (including the extreme close ups of multi-colored eMates in the last few pages.)
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There's no evidence that it was pulled by Apple Legal, though. Mr. Shovethepicinmypants hasn't even claimed to have received a "Cease and Desist" thingy from Apple.
Also, the Mac Rumors homepage appears to have been updated. It now says: "There are significant doubts that this is real."
Well if this is the real thing, for the pople that think it looks horrible, Apple will make it look good somehow.
Problem: Apple doesn't have newspaper ads.
Correction: Everybody hated those (in a good way, though).
Re: DULL DUDE!!
What it doesent look aything like the that, the dell has holes all across the front blah blah blah, not even close
What it doesent look aything like the that, the dell has holes all across the front blah blah blah, not even close