I just purchased a blackbook and I am happy with it! I am also looking for a MBP and i have a friend who wants to sell me his macbook pro. Here are the speicifications as he laid out: ram: 4GB hard drive: 160GB processor: intel core 2 duo, 2.4GHz santa rosa based. video processor: nvidia 8600m GT video ram: 256mb operating sys: mac os 10.5.3 disc drive: 8x superdrive DL applecare until 2010 i've looked at the machine and it visually looks very clean- not a single scratch. he is asking for $1200. But my concern is that its an obsolete machine, over a year old. and i've looked around and seen new laptops selling for a lot less than what he is asking. So what do you guys think about it- should I buy it? Or am i better off getting a refurb at the apple store?