A million times this.
You're eventually bound to hit the limits of your machine and start swearing like a pig.
It's like a gas.
I spent the whole day of yesterday cursing the day I went with just 64 gigs of RAM.
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You're eventually bound to hit the limits of your machine and start swearing like a pig.
It's like a gas.
I spent the whole day of yesterday cursing the day I went with just 64 gigs of RAM.
Do you mean you get 32GB with Vega 20 GPU? How about SSD size? I wonder if 2TB SSD performs better than 1TB SSD.
How is Linux performance under virtual machine?
How is the fan noise level? Is it on most of the time when under Windows?
I don't know if I interpret this correctly. So for CPU and Render, MBP 2019 under Bootcamp Windows is better than most listed but for Graphics, RealView and I/O, there are quite a lot of Windows laptop (even with GTX 1050) that performs better?
There are no 8 core laptops on that list so obviously this MBP will be faster in short tests. As for graphic, Apple provides bare minimum drivers for bootcamp, for all integrated devices including GPUs, you can’t download the regular ones from AMD, so even though the Vega is more than a match for 1050 it may be significantly slower in some specific use cases under bootcamp.
I’d try the hacked drivers from https://www.bootcampdrivers.com/ although they’re based on Adrenalin and won’t provide Vega specific optimization for pro apps they should still be faster than what Apple provides.
Anyway, running bootcamp on MBP for any extended period of time is IMHO just a recipe to rack up shrink bills due to psychological trauma associated with it.
I have not, however I would be warm to the idea if I know they are legit.
I am downloading the Adrenaline pack now. Can anyone confirm this is a legit source? The website looks a little....."3rd world".
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No difference in SW performance test.
It is legit, in a sense that there is a person providing free service to the community because Apple/AMD blacklists Apple branded GPUs in official AMD drivers. The author, Mat, is on this forum - @mhd2100. Luckily he concentrates on modding the drivers in his spare time rather than his website curb appeal. It is unfortunate that you didn't see any improvement, but like I said - they're based on Adrenalin, AMD's gaming drivers and not the pro ones that Vega Pro 20 should support.
So I am trying to make use of the education discount. Obviously the higher you go in price the more of a shaving you receive on the discount. I am trying to find the sweet spot right now on value, so I may return this spec'd out MBP but I am having a hard time deciding between the base 15 6-core or the 8 core.
Or if I want to save even more cash bumping down to the 13" is a huge savings. If I miss the real estate I could buy an external pretty cheap.
At the end of the day, it doesn't seem like my Solidworks test results are anything to admire. For 3800 dollars, tough pill to swallow.
Decisions.
If you absolutely insist on using Macbook then get the 8-core, there is no downside to it, you'll get higher single core performance, higher multi core performance but first of all substantially higher performance/power usage ratio. And that's only like $100 difference when you match all other components.
I'm a mechanical engineer, and every couple of years I'm trying to use Apple computer for work, and every single time it ends up the same - somebody from my family gets top of the line Macbook for free. This world just depends too much on Windows, and after a while it gets really annoying running Windows on MBP. You feels like reaching with your right hand to the left pocket.
Great insight. If I am going to give in to the fact that I just should not be trying to force CAD onto a MBP then I guess I have more incentive to even go with a 13".
Aside from Solidworks and Matlab. All I do on any computer in my free time is Quicken for all my finances, and I am working on my graduate degree so I do spend many hours studying in front of it. So my uses can be done on a 13" for sure, so I am just worried about the pure number of hours I sit in front of my computer if I would really miss my 15".
First world problems. Ill figure it out. Thanks.
So for those who use Bootcamp Windows more often, there is no point to spend extra to get Vega 20 than the RX580?
How about Parallels Windows performance?
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Or you can get a 13" and an iPad as an external screen. I think it will not work under Windows. Am I correct?
Linus Tech Tips says running a MacBook Pro in BootCamp results in lower performance. 5:30 if you don't want to watch the whole thing.
I don't know a thing about the programs you are wanting to run but if you plan to run them in bootcamp anyway I don't see the point in buying a Mac.
Imagine the PC you could get for MacPro money?
Yes, there is a point, Vega is a lot faster. I was referring to app specific optimization present in pro drivers, that would widen the gap even further.
Quicken was one of the reason for having Windows in VM, the mac version is completely different software with much reduced functionality, missing reports, planners and large chunks of the investments part.
This is true, but I couldn't get over the GUI of Quicken Windows looking like the 90's still. Even that god awful finger cursor!....fuzzy text....I could go on.
It does look like QuickBooks on Windows, but accounting software doesn't have to be pretty. Now that Inuit sold it maybe they'll work on the Windows UI too and break with the tradition. I'm not turned off by the way it looks, but it is laggy with even small amounts of data. Mac version is simply not usable for me, I'd rather use Personal Capital in a browser on a Mac - although these guy will call you and try to sell money management services.
Am I correct that one can only take advantage of the Vega if using Mac OS?
Under Mac OS, what applications benefits from Vega GPU? Do Matlab/Simulink, Adobe Illustrator, Photoshop, Premiere, Office, Solidworks under Windows benefit from it?
Vega is a good 60% faster than RX across the board, in MacOS and Windows. As for particular applications - you should probably check at some specific forums dedicated to those products.
I think you are trivializing this.
Of course there is such thing as computational power overkill, but it will obviously depend on your use case. If your system can process data faster than you can supply it, all the excess potential is wasted. If all you do with a machine is word processing, than any computational power beyond what you need to process keystrokes fast enough fir a human brain to process is meaningless. If your software doesn’t do heavy GPU processing there is no point in getting an expensive one. Even with matlab and co, there is no practical difference whether your machine can finish the computation in 0.5 seconds or 0.001 seconds - it’s not going to impact your productivity. And even if the difference is larger, the more important question would be: is the reduction in processing time worth the extra investment?
If you don't mind the fact that Trump is banning them from ever getting more Windows updates...
https://consumer.huawei.com/us/tablets/matebook-x-pro/specs/
I don't think you'll ever find anything that's "quiet" though, especially when you stress the GPU.
As for how I do cloud computing, I just run AWS like many others. Connection is done via Jupyter instead of a terminal. It's a web interface. Basically I can access my cloud from anything that has a web browser (including a phone). So there's a use for those apparently "useless" Chromebooks that Google keeps churning out.
Here's a more in-depth explanation on what I'm running and how to set it up:
https://docs.aws.amazon.com/dlami/latest/devguide/what-is-dlami.html
Here's what Jupyter is if you're interested in just the thing itself:
https://jupyter.org