Isn't the Apple TV dumb?

Discussion in 'Apple TV and Home Theater' started by bluedoggiant, Sep 7, 2007.

  1. bluedoggiant macrumors 68030

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    i mean, look at its features, just take the laptop into the living room, it isnt worth the money just to stream content from your computer, i mean, even the new ipod has more storage than it
     
  2. nitynate macrumors 6502a

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    Perhaps you are not in the market for it.
    Not all people have laptops, and not all people have the technical expertise to stream content, and the Apple TV is quite a convenient device for the market it calls for.
    Obviously not you.
     
  3. Cave Man macrumors 604

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    Only to those with limited imagination, vision and/or funds.
     
  4. p0intblank macrumors 68030

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    With a thread title like that, we can't take you seriously. Or at least I can't.
     
  5. bluedoggiant thread starter macrumors 68030

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    well lower prices are always better, but i don't think the price is terrible
     
  7. nitynate macrumors 6502a

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    Hellofalot better than buying another laptop for your kids.
    I can hear it now-
    MOMMMMMYYYY. I WANT [insert iTunes buyable TV show] NOWWWWWWW.
    "Ok honey"
    Minimize your work, open iTunes up for a second, download and transfer it to the device, and BAM.

    So many other practical uses I can think of, but this one may just be simple enough to fit your mindset. Good day. :)
     
  8. 7on macrumors 601

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    Or say no and take the kid on a bike ride/walk? Booo tv
     
  9. zathras macrumors member

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    To me it certainly is - I looked at a number of options and nothing was as simple and elegant as the aTV.
     
  10. Tommy Tallarico macrumors member

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    I did. They're great.

    Tell that to Amazon, Slingbox, Microsoft, HP, Divx, Hauppauge, Alienware, and the dozens of other companies making similar devices with similar features and functions, and everyone that's buying them.

    You're obviously not the target market for this product, and you obviously don't have the mental flexibility to understand that the product is exactly what others want. Anything can be easily distilled down into "just use [other thing] instead."

    If you want a lower price with more features, look into a modded Xbox. It doesn't do HD, but it's a fantastic gateway into understanding just how valuable these media streaming devices can be. That is, if you ever intend to actually try these things out instead of just dismissing them as dumb.
     
  11. mrfrosty macrumors 6502

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    If you dont want it dont buy it ! I have to say i am incredibly impressed how quickly you formed your opinion though ! How long has it been out now ?

    On a lighter note, i LOVE my ATV. Its not about how much storage you have or anything else, it's about the fact that IT JUST WORKS.
     
  12. SthrnCmfrtr macrumors 6502

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    Yeah. There's nothing quite like gathering the family around the laptop to watch a movie...
     
  13. bluedoggiant thread starter macrumors 68030

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    macbook pro 17 inch, get a mac mini and hook it up to a 30 inch display, well, i guess im seeing the pluses of the :apple:tv, but they have to add more storage, again, EVEN the ipod has MORE storage than it, it should be like 130GB and 200GB
     
  14. Duffinator macrumors 6502

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    That pretty much covers it. ;)
     
  15. Digital Skunk macrumors 604

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    Let me know when the 130 GB drive becomes available :)

    Just kidding.

    I could hook up my laptop/mac mini to become an ATV but I would have to get the necessary cables to convert DVI --> Component or HDMI. Then the necessary Audio cable...

    If I use my laptop I am sure I would want to disconnect it every now and then to use it, and buying a second one is a bit over kill. I see the OPs point, but I find hooking things up and taking them apart a nuisance... just hooking them up is a headache. The ATV would fit nicely in my house sans the storage issues if it also allowed me to download stuff off of TV (TiVo/DVR) then I would have had one a long time ago.
     
  16. Jovian9 macrumors 68000

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    No storage needed at all on the :apple:TV (except for OS software)....it streams. I don't have anything stored on mine at this time.....it's all on the iMac.
     
  17. Duffinator macrumors 6502

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    Same here, I stream everything.
     
  18. Tommy Tallarico macrumors member

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    You don't need any storage at all. It streams everything that's in your iTunes library.

    What's really dumb here, the product or the person that hasn't done a bit of research on it?
     
  19. bluedoggiant thread starter macrumors 68030

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    then why does it have a hard drive
     
  20. Duffinator macrumors 6502

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    For the dummies that can't figure out how to stream? :D

    Seriously, in another thread someone suggested a stripped down ATV with no hd and no wi-fi. That could get the cost down to $100 and maybe get the product into more hands. I mainly use mine for music and photos and have been using a Media MVP for the past three years. Support from Hauppauge hasn't been overwhelming and I've had many dreams about a product like the ATV. I'm very happy with my ATV.
     
  21. H.isidorius macrumors newbie

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    A bit more explanation?

    Probably you should explain yourself a bit more. Based on the above reactions, nobody really understoods your reasoning.. What are you looking for, what is it your are missing...:confused:

    I partly agree with you. From an European pespectice it is just a very expensive box. You can't buy anything on itunes, there is not much other content available outside YouTube, the solution is clearly geared to US customers, etc. On the other hand, if you have some content it is quite a versatile box with of course a number of limitations.
     
  22. Tommy Tallarico macrumors member

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    What does it matter? It streams and it can store. It does both. Getting into the semantics of the purpose of individual components in the device still doesn't make it make any sense when you try to directly compare hard drive sizes between an Apple TV and an iPod in an attempt to rationalize the product's usefulness.

    There are other features at work here: streaming being the main one that makes your iPod hard drive comparison worthless. They are similar devices, but trying to compare the quality of the devices as determined by hard drive size is apples to oranges. That really appears to be your only argument here, and I don't see how that makes the Apple TV dumb when it has a one-up in features compared to the iPod. Nevermind the fact that both the Apple TV and iPod max out at 160gb hard drives.

    I promise you that the wireless network connection and 40gb hard drive do not come anywhere close to being worth $200 of the cost.
     
  23. Cave Man macrumors 604

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    There is a difference between "need" and "have". It doesn't need one if you have a desktop system that you leave on 24/7. Most people fit this category. In addition, if you don't want it to compete with your other computers on the wireless network, then sync as much as you can. We have a 160 gig drive in our ATV and have sync'd our music library (30 gigs) and all our kids movies (about 80 gigs) on the ATV. With this configuration we don't even have to have the ATV connected to the network and we can play all our music (and their playlists) and watch any of the kids' movies.

    The other type of person who would want an ATV with a hard drive is anyone who has a laptop that they have to take off their network, such as when they take it to work or go on a trip. Simply sync files while the laptop is connected to the network and when it's done, just remove it and go about your business. This way the ATV can function without any computer on the network.

    Use your imagination a bit.
     
  24. synth3tik macrumors 68040

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    My :apple:TV is sitting in the box waiting to get sold. The only feature thats missing is the ability to run programs without hacking. I want to be able to run Joost on it.

    My many issue with it is that after every show I watch or after I listen to an album I have to re-sync to my library, which takes about 10 minutes.
     
  25. Tommy Tallarico macrumors member

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    What?
     

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