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Israel Bans Imports of iPads Pending Certification of Wi-Fi Power Output
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Draconian.
Actually, no it isn't. Many countries have strong standards in order to prevent alien flora and fauna from entering the country and causing serious problems. The US is no different.
As for how draconian a measure this is, are you seriously suggesting that you are as inconvenienced by throwing out a sandwich or two as an iPad owner is by having several hundred dollars worth of equipment confiscated-- not to mention paying the cost of its impounding?
Are their any iPhones in Israel? Which wifi transmit power standards do they meet? Do they check to see that incoming iPhones were manufactured for the European market or the American one? Do Europe or Israel expect Apple to manufacture all equipment worldwide to meet the most stringent requirement? If not, do they honestly expect that people entering Israel with equipment for personal use purchased elsewhere (laptops, netbooks, smartphones) will leave it at home and buy replacements in Israel, manufactured to Israel's standards?
Usually these kinds of actions are not taken against users bringing in equipment for their own use, but only when equipment is imported for commercial resale. Applying the standards to those bringing them in early-- perhaps for use, but perhaps for resale, might be considered slightly draconian (if there is such a thing).
Sorry to hear about your sandwiches.
Actually, no it isn't. Many countries have strong standards in order to prevent alien flora and fauna from entering the country and causing serious problems. The US is no different.
As for how draconian a measure this is, are you seriously suggesting that you are as inconvenienced by throwing out a sandwich or two as an iPad owner is by having several hundred dollars worth of equipment confiscated-- not to mention paying the cost of its impounding?
Are their any iPhones in Israel? Which wifi transmit power standards do they meet? Do they check to see that incoming iPhones were manufactured for the European market or the American one? Do Europe or Israel expect Apple to manufacture all equipment worldwide to meet the most stringent requirement? If not, do they honestly expect that people entering Israel with equipment for personal use purchased elsewhere (laptops, netbooks, smartphones) will leave it at home and buy replacements in Israel, manufactured to Israel's standards?
Usually these kinds of actions are not taken against users bringing in equipment for their own use, but only when equipment is imported for commercial resale. Applying the standards to those bringing them in early-- perhaps for use, but perhaps for resale, might be considered slightly draconian (if there is such a thing).
Sorry to hear about your sandwiches.
1.) I've read somewhere on this forum that Israel hates Apple? I'd sooner believe that Apple's logo is perceived by Israeli society as "religiously iconic of Adam & Eve's" sin, as opposed to representative of Newton's Apple... I guess I just don't understand why a nation would "bother to hate" a mobile devices company, seems like speculation. So I'm going to dismiss this one, for now.
2.) Is it possible that WiFi bands must be confirmed for public safety reasons? that is; the ability to identify within some degree of certainty, the iPad's WiFi signal 'signature' or characteristics, so that if it is used (in an innocuous looking case) to broadcast in plain sight; signals to remote detonate IED's (improvised explosive devices)? Note, it's in regards to "power output", this may have more to do with identifying signals. Perhaps, since the signal is weaker, it's harder to track?
3.) Is the iPad Kosher or not?
2.) Is it possible that WiFi bands must be confirmed for public safety reasons? that is; the ability to identify within some degree of certainty, the iPad's WiFi signal 'signature' or characteristics, so that if it is used (in an innocuous looking case) to broadcast in plain sight; signals to remote detonate IED's (improvised explosive devices)? Note, it's in regards to "power output", this may have more to do with identifying signals. Perhaps, since the signal is weaker, it's harder to track?
3.) Is the iPad Kosher or not?
You are right. I presume that they were for resale, but the story wouldn't be as interesting as that.
FYI, the Iphone is a very big seller in Israel. People queued for hours and paid $1000 dollars just to have one so lets put a stop to this Israel is anti-apple. I presume the Iphone conforms to European/Israeli regulations. I also presume that when the Ipad launches in Europe this will no longer be an issue as the Israeli and European regulations are almost identical.
I am from Israel.
This is not the first time this has happened - the Time Capsule may not be sold here also. I think the Wireless N standard is the problem.
However, macbook pros are sold here so go figure.
Here is an interesting article in YNET (website of the biggest newspaper in Israel, written in Hebrew) trying to explain why the Communications Ministry in Israel is bananas:
http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3876848,00.html
Here is a not-so-great google translation:
http://translate.google.com/transla...ticles/0,7340,L-3876848,00.html&sl=auto&tl=en
This is not the first time this has happened - the Time Capsule may not be sold here also. I think the Wireless N standard is the problem.
However, macbook pros are sold here so go figure.
Here is an interesting article in YNET (website of the biggest newspaper in Israel, written in Hebrew) trying to explain why the Communications Ministry in Israel is bananas:
http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3876848,00.html
Here is a not-so-great google translation:
http://translate.google.com/transla...ticles/0,7340,L-3876848,00.html&sl=auto&tl=en
what about intercontinental travellers with wi-fi enabled laptops?
same story, even for non-us originating people?
same story, even for non-us originating people?
I am really trying to hold myself from calling this a racist comment. Israel is a democratic, free society, just like the U.S. if not more under certain circumstances.
I think the main reason is that it might intefere with military broadcast signals. Israel is tiny, with limited spectrum.
3.) Is the iPad Kosher or not?
As long as they don't rename it to iPig, it is.
Guys, Israel isn't part of Europe. They are in the Middle East
They are considered Europe when it comes to standards, trade, international commerce and sports.
Greece and Turkey are also in the Middle East, but are regarded as part of Europe.
I guess you didn't catch the sarcasm in 1. then. Trying to point out how ridiculous one preconceived notion is by example isn't the best approach. It was by no means implied or otherwise, intended as racism. 3 of my best friends that I grew up with were from Israel, for which I have the utmost respect for.
I ofcourse was not referring to you but to whomever claimed this on the first place.
And you gotta admit iPig is good
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We need a global wifi/cellular/bluetooth standard in order for this type of thing to happen. After all the reality is that we do live in a GLOBAL economy. May as well have our DEVICES globally compatible.
WiFi Power
This is easy. What is the wi-fi power level of laptops sold in Israel?
How does that compare to the level of iPad power?
Will the international version of the iPad have "european" power levels?
If so, how will Israeli customs know the difference?
If not, why are only iPads singled out. Why aren't all wi-fi devices that do not adhere to their power requirements confiscated at the border?
Are there specific levels for A, B, G, & N radios? N-radios are becoming the standard so this effort can no longer be apple specific.
Are there valid reasons for this bad or is Israel just playing games?
This is easy. What is the wi-fi power level of laptops sold in Israel?
How does that compare to the level of iPad power?
Will the international version of the iPad have "european" power levels?
If so, how will Israeli customs know the difference?
If not, why are only iPads singled out. Why aren't all wi-fi devices that do not adhere to their power requirements confiscated at the border?
Are there specific levels for A, B, G, & N radios? N-radios are becoming the standard so this effort can no longer be apple specific.
Are there valid reasons for this bad or is Israel just playing games?
Sorry, I originally meant Cyprus, not Greece. Lack of sleep would do that to you.
HyperX13 - considering I'm from Israel, this really doesn't say anything about your public education system.
Without any more info or reading the newspaper article referenced earlier, I would believe that Israel is fearful of iPads being used to communicate with enemies outside its borders. However, with the proliferation of cellphones and laptops, why would these be any different.
Is this the anti-FCC? Your device does not emit _enough_ radiation to be allowed in our country. Come back when your device creates more interference...
Then this
",which are different from American standards,"
should have been
"(which are different from American standards),
it is the writer's job to avoid obfuscation.
",which are different from American standards,"
should have been
"(which are different from American standards),
it is the writer's job to avoid obfuscation.
This is nothing new, this goes for every device with WiFi.
The European version of Apple products, such as the iPhone, follows European regulations and is certified by a European authority the same way that the FCC certifies compliance with US regulations.
If the device is certified by the FCC, it has a FCC logo on the back (or bottom) and if it complies with European regulations it has a EC logo. The iPhone sold in Europe has both the FCC and EC logo as it complies with both.
Customs officials only need to check for the EC logo to see if it is in compliance with European regulations or not.
But it cuts both ways. The EU requires weaker transmitters but allows for more channels than the US so a WiFi device designed to make the most of the EU standard could very well get confiscated by US customs as it would contains a WiFi transmitter not in compliance with FCC regulations - and you know how strict the the US is about FCC compliance.
UPDATE: now that I look at the photos of the US iPad, it looks like it has a CE0682 logo next to the FCC logo. That should mean the current iPad is an international model and the only one there is going to be and that it complies with EU radio transmitter regulations.
First let me appologize for any mistakes I make in english as I am from Israel.
I'm really sorry to read some comments here. All these comments with any racist approach for Israel because of a rule that the country decide to actually inforce is just ridiculs and shows how bad the media turns things. As an Ipad owner who actually got it confescated I ofcurse, am angry. This is a kind of the stupid rules we sometimes have here and boy do we have some stupid, inconvinent rules here. But the fact is, this rules are neccessry to keep this small crazy country in order. Basiclly, we live here, not you. You dont have to deal with it if you dislike this behavior (I dont like this rule beleive me), but dont make this case another chance for any racist opinion. You dont know what our reality is, you just get blended with media reports that just look to make any story interesting. Just stop the ********. If you want to talk about this more I can talk about it all day, but this is not the place. All of you out there, have a good day and a week, I dont judge you because you get your info from media. Can anyone on the other side of that screen that hates me right now have the diggnity to say the same?
I'm really sorry to read some comments here. All these comments with any racist approach for Israel because of a rule that the country decide to actually inforce is just ridiculs and shows how bad the media turns things. As an Ipad owner who actually got it confescated I ofcurse, am angry. This is a kind of the stupid rules we sometimes have here and boy do we have some stupid, inconvinent rules here. But the fact is, this rules are neccessry to keep this small crazy country in order. Basiclly, we live here, not you. You dont have to deal with it if you dislike this behavior (I dont like this rule beleive me), but dont make this case another chance for any racist opinion. You dont know what our reality is, you just get blended with media reports that just look to make any story interesting. Just stop the ********. If you want to talk about this more I can talk about it all day, but this is not the place. All of you out there, have a good day and a week, I dont judge you because you get your info from media. Can anyone on the other side of that screen that hates me right now have the diggnity to say the same?
