Issey Miyake, Designer of Steve Jobs Turtleneck and Unused Apple Corporate Uniform, Dies Aged 84

[urnotl33t]

Everyone hates the idea of uniforms until they try them. I attended a school with uniforms and it was transformative — the uniforms gave us a sense of shared identity, greatly reduced cliques and class distinctions, and made mornings super easy. I could see uniforms working really well in the right corporate environment.

Except there's ALWAYS something for the others to "pick on" you about, or find some way to (re)create a clique/class or otherwise means of exclusion. Hair, fingernails, the-way-you-carry-your-books/bag, shoes, socks, wrinkles in your shirt... claiming "uniforms prevent cliques/class" is utter crap spewed by those WHO ARE IN SAID CLIQUE/CLASS. Ask "the others" what they think, who feel otherwise belittled/forced into attire that fits them poorly, or makes them uncomfortable.

I'll wait. I got all day.

 

[urnotl33t]

The main problem I've seen with uniforms is that they're usually made out of polyester, which is not comfortable. I worked in a hospital and wore scrubs all day. That was the best.

Yeah they do that for "durability" and clean..able..ness.. (whatever that word is.. hah). Agreed, too.. super uncomfortable.

 

[bluespark]

Except there's ALWAYS something for the others to "pick on" you about, or find some way to (re)create a clique/class or otherwise means of exclusion. Hair, fingernails, the-way-you-carry-your-books/bag, shoes, socks, wrinkles in your shirt... claiming "uniforms prevent cliques/class" is utter crap spewed by those WHO ARE IN SAID CLIQUE/CLASS. Ask "the others" what they think, who feel otherwise belittled/forced into attire that fits them poorly, or makes them uncomfortable.

I'll wait. I got all day.

Your quote is not accurate -- I said "greatly reduce," not "prevent." Taking away the markers of "cliques/class" does not eliminate either, but it can help -- a lot. And if someone is forced to wear "attire that fits them poorly, or make them uncomfortable," that's a bad uniform that isn't helping. But poor fit and discomfort are not necessary components of uniforms and certainly not what was being discussed here.

 

[_Spinn_]

Go figure. I just thought that was a regular old turtle neck.

 

[bgillander]

Not sure I’m a fan of that Sony uniform. Looks a little too “American Psycho”.

 

[Shifts]

For anyone not understanding or not being familiar with Issey Miyak, I recommend reading the Instagram post by Gracia Ventus: https://www.instagram.com/p/ChCmujXPs6Q/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link