isub no more with tiger

[Macmadant]

Today i booted into OS9 and my isub sounded beautiful, even better than it did with panther, and it went even loader than mac OSX, the volume was at half way in OS9 and it was loader than OSX's maximum volume, so those of you can boot into OS9 and listen to the beauty of it, the bass is loader, i just can't explain you have to do it

 

[mr freeo]

Fair Dinkin

Well good news folks, after waiting 2 weeks i resent my email, saying i didn't appreciate being ignored yesterday, now i checked my email and i have had an email from the man himself steve jobs. he told me apple were looking into the issue, so there you go the next update may well fix the isub, god i'm going to cherish that email forever.

do you really think it was the man himself emailing you?....either way we will see what happens at the next OS update, lets keep hoping isub owners

 

[Macmadant]

do you really think it was the man himself emailing you?....either way we will see what happens at the next OS update, lets keep hoping isub owners

Yeah it was short and sweet to the point, just like him and he signed it himself.
i direct you to this link http://www.tuaw.com/2006/08/04/steve-cares-about-you-he-really-does/

He does genuenly care about us mac users, if it was from one of his assistants, it is signed by them, not steve as i've emailed before about things and had emails from his assistants

 

[mr freeo]

Os X 10.4.8

I see 10.4.8 is about to be released & is said to include maintenance and BUG FIXES!, Could this finally be our isub fix, well I can't say I'm getting too excited but I do live in hope....It should be released any day now.

 

[Macmadant]

I see 10.4.8 is about to be released & is said to include maintenance and BUG FIXES!, Could this finally be our isub fix, well I can't say I'm getting too excited but I do live in hope....It should be released any day now.

I know I'm pretty sure it will fix the problem as that is what Steve said, if it doesn't boy he will be in trouble

 

[nagromme]

I've been offered a hand-me-down iSub for use with my first Intel Mac. Sounds like I should turn it down, but I'll cross my fingers for a fix!

 

[JDN]

I found this: http://macs.about.com/b/a/068636.htm

I dont know if it has been posted under another link, but its worth a shot.

 

[mr freeo]

I've been offered a hand-me-down iSub for use with my first Intel Mac. Sounds like I should turn it down, but I'll cross my fingers for a fix!

G'Day Nagromme,
I would definately accept the isub hand-me-down, after waiting for every OS X 4 (Tiger) update to be released with the expectation of an isub fix to be included & then dealing with the disappointment, I gotta tell ya, I've now got a gut feeling the next software update will deliver the goods.
Even if you never get it working its a great looking ornament, when my mother visited & first saw my isub she thought it was a varse.

 

[nagromme]

I'll wait and see... meantime they can store it for me

 

[Macmadant]

G'Day Nagromme,
I would definately accept the isub hand-me-down, after waiting for every OS X 4 (Tiger) update to be released with the expectation of an isub fix to be included & then dealing with the disappointment, I gotta tell ya, I've now got a gut feeling the next software update will deliver the goods.
Even if you never get it working its a great looking ornament, when my mother visited & first saw my isub she thought it was a varse.

Yeah it's very beautiful, and elegant, i pretty sure the update i'm downloading now will fix it (10.4.8) as steve said they were working on it just after 10.4.7 came out, anyway i'll tell you if it's fixed when it's finished

 

[Macmadant]

Ah for ******************** What the ****, I'm so ******, I'm going to get the next flight to Cupertino go to Steve's office and chuck my isub at him, then get in a rage and destroy his office, ohhhhhhhhhh i'm sending him an email now

 

[dlanini]

Yep, Steve wasn't listening

Let me join the club of folks who have the Harmon-Kardon iSub and have been pulling (what's left of) my hair out trying to just make it work at reasonable levels ever since upgrading to Tiger, etc.

So now we know that its NG in 10.4.8, who wants to place bets on it working in 10.5 (Leopard)?

If only I didn't like everything else about these machines so much, or I'd boycott or at least make more noise... sigh.

home:
Quicksilver 2001 867Mhz (upgraded to 1.2Ghz), 1.5GBRam, 750GB disk
Quicksilver 2002 dual 1Ghz, 1.5GBRam, 2TB disk
iMac G4 2002 800Mhz, 1GBram, 80GB disk
PowerBook 2001 TiBook 500Mhz, 1GBRam, 100GB (7200RPM) disk
(drooling over the 17" MacBook Pro yada yada)
work:
G5 (Omega) 2003 1.8Ghz, 2GBRam, 2x80GB disk
antiques:
4 NeXT cubes (25Mhz 64MBRam, 2GB disk)
2 NeXT pizza boxes (33Mhz 32MBRam, 2GB disk)
(is anyone familiar with the NeXT's?)

I've complained to Apple about this like the rest of you, and
to say that I feel slighted is an understatment.
/d

 

[mr freeo]

Ah for ******************** What the ****, I'm so ******, I'm going to get the next flight to Cupertino go to Steve's office and chuck my isub at him, then get in a rage and destroy his office, ohhhhhhhhhh i'm sending him an email now

G'Day fellow isub users, yeah I also just downloaded 10.4.8 & surprise surprise, NO fix. Two chances of it being fixed in the release of leopard....."none & Buckley's" (that means NO chance in Aussie slang).......but HOPE is a powerful thing.

 

[Thunderbird1]

Fix for HK isub....

Yes, it took a great deal of trying to figure out how to use my isub with my 24 " imac, but I finally figured it out. No it is not a software fix, but it works by plugging in most any USB 2 speakers. I went to the local RadioShack type store and picked up the least expensive, but nice speakers. You can find them for 20 dollars. Once you plug them into your macintel system, then plug in your isub. Open System preferences and click on output. Find 2 options:
internal speakers or C-Media USB Audio.
Click on C-Media USB Audio and your isub will appear in sound output and will work without a hitch. Well maybe one hitch. You will have to always open this to control the sound properly or set everything to the max or to suit your music taste and control through itunes. You will again hear the thump, thump of the isub. Oh happy Day!
PS - Actally purchased my USB speakers at Dick Smith's, called Dick Smith xear 3D.

 

[nagromme]

Yes, it took a great deal of trying to figure out how to use my isub with my 24 " imac, but I finally figured it out. No it is not a software fix, but it works by plugging in most any USB 2 speakers.

Thanks--that's the Mac I'd be using an iSub with.

But if you don't get USB speakers, what happens? Can you still get sound out of the iSub if you plug and unplug it? What goes wrong? I can even stand lack of control, maybe, just so long as I can get sound out of it combined with the internal speakers.

 

[Thunderbird1]

Quote: But if you don't get USB speakers, what happens? Can you still get sound out of the iSub if you plug and unplug it? What goes wrong? I can even stand lack of control, maybe, just so long as I can get sound out of it combined with the internal speakers.

Answer: Nothing happens when you plug in the isub if you don't have USB speakers plugged in at the same time. The isub is only recognized if the USB speakers are plugged in. Kind of strange, but that is the way it works. Even if you plug and unplug it will not work without the USB speakers. Apple did not program the isub into Tiger, but did program in C-Media USB Audio. So since the USB speakers are recognized by Tiger as C-Media USB Audio, Tiger in turn recognizes isub as part of that system and works in Tiger 10.4 OS.
I would not be concerned about getting sound out of the internal speakers and the isub at the same time. The USB/isub, C-Media USB Audio is many times better. Many times the watt output of the internal speakers. Try it, you will like it!

 

[nagromme]

I guess it's an Intel thing? The iSub works fine with my PBG4 and also an iMac G4, both running Tiger. Only it sometimes fails to make sound unless you re-plug it.

(I don't want external speakers--more clutter, more cables--but I might use a subwoofer alone, out of sight. If not, I've got my home stereo anyway.)

 

[Macmadant]

I guess it's an Intel thing? The iSub works fine with my PBG4 and also an iMac G4, both running Tiger. Only it sometimes fails to make sound unless you re-plug it.

(I don't want external speakers--more clutter, more cables--but I might use a subwoofer alone, out of sight. If not, I've got my home stereo anyway.)

No it's not an intel thing it's an OSX Tiger thing

 

[Macmadant]

Answer: Nothing happens when you plug in the isub if you don't have USB speakers plugged in at the same time. The isub is only recognized if the USB speakers are plugged in. Kind of strange, but that is the way it works. Even if you plug and unplug it will not work without the USB speakers. Apple did not program the isub into Tiger, but did program in C-Media USB Audio. So since the USB speakers are recognized by Tiger as C-Media USB Audio, Tiger in turn recognizes isub as part of that system and works in Tiger 10.4 OS.

What are you on about ?, the isub will work weather you have USB speakers or no speakers at all, I'm using my iSub with a pair of Apple pro Speakers which are not USB and it works with internal speakers, and it worked fine in Panther, but with tiger it's gone haywire and apple are aware of this, but what the hell their doing about it is anyone guess.
No one listen to this guy, he doesn't know his isub from his iMac

 

[nagromme]

No it's not an intel thing it's an OSX Tiger thing

OK, I'll have to test some more. I thought it was working in Tiger with my PB.

No one listen to this guy, he doesn't know his isub from his iMac

He WAS talking about Tiger.

 

[nagromme]

No it's not an intel thing it's an OSX Tiger thing

I've tested more: it definitely IS working in Tiger, complete with volume control in Prefs.

This is on a G4 iMac running 10.4.8 (with Pro Speakers) and on a G4 PowerBook running 10.4.7 (with internal speakers). Both systems have also made use of the iSub on earlier Tiger (and Panther) versions. I haven't even seen any quirks or unreliability on the PowerBook, but it's only been used there occasionally. On the iMac, which has been using the iSub for years, there is some quirkiness, including a tendency (ever since Panther) to get no sound after waking--but re-plugging the USB connector brings it back.

So, bottom line... not perfect in Tiger, but mostly working fine.

HOWEVER, on my Intel iMac (C2D 24" 10.4.8), I get nothing from it, and no controls appear in Prefs.

So it does seem to be an Intel OS X thing, and not an overall Tiger thing.

Regardless, an update would be very welcome! The iMac is where I really want to use it, to complement the internal speakers.

 

[Macmadant]

I've tested more: it definitely IS working in Tiger, complete with volume control in Prefs.

This is on a G4 iMac running 10.4.8 (with Pro Speakers) and on a G4 PowerBook running 10.4.7 (with internal speakers). Both systems have also made use of the iSub on earlier Tiger (and Panther) versions. I haven't even seen any quirks or unreliability on the PowerBook, but it's only been used there occasionally. On the iMac, which has been using the iSub for years, there is some quirkiness, including a tendency (ever since Panther) to get no sound after waking--but re-plugging the USB connector brings it back.

So, bottom line... not perfect in Tiger, but mostly working fine.

HOWEVER, on my Intel iMac (C2D 24" 10.4.8), I get nothing from it, and no controls appear in Prefs.

So it does seem to be an Intel OS X thing, and not an overall Tiger thing.

Regardless, an update would be very welcome! The iMac is where I really want to use it, to complement the internal speakers.

Of Course it works in tiger, but it doesn't work properly, it doesn't work as it should, thats interesting about the imac, i have a C2D iMac, i'll have to test the isub with it

 

[TyPod]

Mine works when i move it from my shi**y windows laptop to my moms iBook she gets from her work. And yes, it's running tiger.

 

[Macmadant]

Mine works when i move it from my shi**y windows laptop to my moms iBook she gets from her work. And yes, it's running tiger.

I thought it worked with my ibook, but the ibook speakers are to quite to tell, and either you can't notice it with the ibook, or your in a very small minority who doesn't have the problem, and there is one because Steve jobs has acknowledged it himself

 

[nagromme]

Nobody's saying there is no problem, but this thread made me think iSubs don't play on Macs running Tiger, and that's not the case. That severe failure seems to be limited to Intel Macs--which would be interesting to have more people test.