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what they are saying is that 2.0 Software is BROKE and is causing major problems...look at the friggin boards-are you blind? I have been here for over a year since iDay and NEVER have I seen so many problems on these and Apples own boards.
1.0 had a lot of bugs that caused a lot of major problems, too .. including signal issues, random resets, etc. :rolleyes:

If you're basing how well 2.0 is/isn't doing on the quantity of problems posted online, how are you accounting for the fact that the 2.0 software is running on 7 million more devices currently than it was on iDay last year, which, by default, means more problems posted?
 
1.0 had a lot of bugs that caused a lot of major problems, too .. including signal issues, random resets, etc. :rolleyes:

If you're basing how well 2.0 is/isn't doing on the quantity of problems posted online, how are you accounting for the fact that the 2.0 software is running on 7 million more devices currently than it was on iDay last year, which, by default, means more problems posted?

I am not...I am basing it on my own personal experiance of using the iPhone for a friggin year and only now having problems...then reviewing threads here and on other forums and seeing the same dang thing. You can :rolleyes: all you want but it seems that you are to tunnel visioned to see a problem that did not exist before!!!
 
I am not...I am basing it on my own personal experiance of using the iPhone for a friggin year and only now having problems...then reviewing threads here and on other forums and seeing the same dang thing. You can :rolleyes: all you want but it seems that you are to tunnel visioned to see a problem that did not exist before!!!
All I'm saying is that last year, when YOU weren't experiencing any iPhone problems, these forums were full of other people who were.

And now, even though you're apparently experiencing issues with 2.0, there are others that AREN'T.

So in the big scheme of things, nothing's changed. Apple released a major new OS and some people are having problems with it and some people aren't.

Based on what Apple did last year, they'll continue to release updates until everything's fairly nailed down (like 1.1.4), but you know what? The forum will STILL be full of posts from people having major problems with it.
 
All I'm saying is that last year, when YOU weren't experiencing any iPhone problems, these forums were full of other people who were.

And now, even though you're apparently experiencing issues with 2.0, there are others that AREN'T.

So in the big scheme of things, nothing's changed. Apple released a major new OS and some people are having problems with it and some people aren't.

Based on what Apple did last year, they'll continue to release updates until everything's fairly nailed down (like 1.1.4), but you know what? The forum will STILL be full of posts from people having major problems with it.

There is a big difference between last year and this. Last year it was learning a new OS and device and individuals were messing things up. I know, I helped a lot of those individuals understand Outlook or other things that were not working right. Granted...there were some software issues and learning pains...THAT should NOT be issues NOW. Apple has gone backwards and things that WERE working and had been fixed are NOW issues again, only worse. There is a major incompatibility problem between Apps, 2.0 and 7.7 and hopefully it gets fixed next month.

I love my iPhone just as much as you do and have come to rely on it on a daily basis but when one cannot use it as designed because of crashing/locking and having to restore as a new iPhone because Backups won't install or Apps (the talk of the town) take out the iPhone then I and others have a right to voice our opinions...which are founded based on all of the similar posts that are here and else where.

Sorry...don't mean to burst the Perfect Apple Bubble...But right now, they are no better then Microsoft and I use both.
 
If anyone is laughing their asses off it's probably Steve Jobs. They release a totally half baked product with software that was barely tested and yet they have millions of people lining up to buy it... even fighting over it, simply because it's the latest "must have" gadget.

If this were any other company they already would have been blasted into the dark zone by the technical illuminati for releasing such half baked garbage. Since it's Apple though they have this incredible shield of Apple Fanboys that attempts to deflect all legitimate criticism of their new wonder product.

Seems as though Apple's policy of absolute secrecy, under paying their programmers and skimping on support is starting to come around to bite them in the ass finally.

Chickens coming home to roost and what not.
 
Apple has gone backwards and things that WERE working and had been fixed are NOW issues again, only worse.
IMO, the lions share of 2.0 issues are 3G and third-party app related. Neither of those functions existed prior to 2.0.

I love my iPhone just as much as you do
I never stated that I love my iPhone or Apple. I just don't understand the point-of-view of some folks that seem utterly mistifed that the iPhone 2.0 wasn't 100% perfect. iPhone 1.0 wasn't. iPhone 1.0.1 didn't have everything fixed. Neither did iPhone 1.0.2. So what's with the expectation that iPhone 2.0.2 would have it all nailed down?

And how the heck can one say "Apple's not doing anything to fix the issues" when they've released more fixes for iPhone 2.0 in the last month and a half than Microsoft did for Windows Mobile 6.0 in the last year?!

I and others have a right to voice our opinions...which are founded based on all of the similar posts that are here and else where.
And I never said you couldn't voice your opinion.

Sorry...don't mean to burst the Perfect Apple Bubble...But right now, they are no better then Microsoft and I use both.
I've never said that "Apple was perfect", so don't think you're bursting anything for me.

My points are simply this:

Nobody's ever shipped a phone OS that didn't have issues. If you're aware of one, please let me know.

No other company updates their their phone OS issues as quickly and easily (i.e. your device isn't wiped during the process) as Apple. If you're aware of one, please let me know.

If one doesn't want a chance to feel like "they're a beta tester" for ANY product that's majorly new, then don't buy the product until a few months after it's been out.

This isn't advice for just Apple products. I goes for practically anything manufactured.
 
I had a BB before exchange support and they all have bugs...the new OS version works as well for me as any others have.
 
3rd party apps on the iPhone run much better and faster then on symbian and stuff guys, you guys act like its supposed to be PERFECT.

3G dropped call's which i haven't had yet are not Apple's fault, its AT&T's.

Has anyone here used like java applications on Symbian phones..there **** compared to the the iphone. They also either crash a lot of they take 10 seconds to actually open, let alone load.

Stop hating on the iPhone...i personally expected all this to happen lol
 
Yeah, I do EXPECT my devices to work. My palm crashed on me maybe once every 3 months. Release of "updates" that don't resolve the majority of the known issues DON'T impress me. My java applications didn't cause my phone's OS to crash.

Turning off 3G to make the phone works (it fixes the dropped calls for me too) is fairly laughable. Apple made ATT their exclusive provider - this was APPLE'S choice. They have a responsibility to ensure that the two are compatible.

I really find it amusing that in order to truly enjoy apple's product's you should expect them not to work all the time. BTW, that is a microsoft argument if I ever heard one! I'd be happy right now just to be able to figure out how to get the unknown error conditions from occurring - (see screen capture in previous post)


3rd party apps on the iPhone run much better and faster then on symbian and stuff guys, you guys act like its supposed to be PERFECT.

3G dropped call's which i haven't had yet are not Apple's fault, its AT&T's.

Has anyone here used like java applications on Symbian phones..there **** compared to the the iphone. They also either crash a lot of they take 10 seconds to actually open, let alone load.

Stop hating on the iPhone...i personally expected all this to happen lol
 
I have updated my iPhone to 2.0.2 and have had nary an issue. I read about the freezes and crashes and wonder what is up? I did not upgrade my wife's iPhone until the .02 came out and she has had no problems. We have enjoyed our iPhones immeasurably in the year we have had them. I wonder if the people who are having so many problems with their iPhones should return them and try again with another iPhone, for surely they must have gotten a faulty one. I am not a "fan Boy" who defends Apple regardless of the facts, but if 2.0.2 was as bad as many posters are saying, everyone who uses it would be having the same trouble. I have worked around software for the last twenty plus years and I now if a program is running fine on several machines and having trouble on one machine it is a hardware issue, not a software issue.
 
Re: It just works.

You've been putting the emphasis on "works"? Oh my no. It's supposed to be on "just". Now try it again. Thaaats more like it.

Worst slogan ever.
 
Ok...

Windows Mobile is a relatively bug free OS, that has crashed twice in the whole year I used it.

iPhone OS is full of bugs, that crashes several times a day not to mention laggy.

How's that?

Actually, I found crashes to be mainly with 3rd party applications. If I don't install any applications (or install the ones equivelent to a Windows Mobile device) then I will receive NO crashes whatsoever. It's when I start installing stuff like Super Monkey Ball where I get crashes.

3G dropped call's which i haven't had yet are not Apple's fault, its AT&T's.

Wait, if it's AT&T's fault, how come no other 3G AT&T phone gets dropped calls (or are they? Am I missing something?)?
 
Wait, if it's AT&T's fault, how come no other 3G AT&T phone gets dropped calls (or are they? Am I missing something?)?

Thats the question I want answered. I have had a Samsung Sync for two years and NEVER had a problem with 3G with it. When I wanted the internet, I went to Opera Mini and it worked and NEVER crashed. Now when I open Safari it just sits there unless I drop to Edge. What that hell? I bought a iPhone 3G!!! Apple's answer: lets not blame our buggy software, let's blame the cell provider.
 
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