Italian, no US, Italian again, NO ...US!!! (keyboard layout)

[lacornucopia]

I live in Italy, use OS 10.5.5 and all programs in English. Will someone, SOMEONE PLEASE, tell me why my (flat aluminum) keyboard—for months now—continually reverts to Italian after I set, reset, reset and reset it again for US or US Extended?

Please and thank you.

 

[g4cubed]

Just a guess, but what region is it set at? It could be a regional thing that keeps making it revert back.

 

[gnasher729]

I live in Italy, use OS 10.5.5 and all programs in English. Will someone, SOMEONE PLEASE, tell me why my keyboard (for months now!) continually reverts to Italian after I set, reset, reset and reset it again for US or US Extended?

I don't know why it happens, but if you go to System Preferences -> International -> Input Menu, you can select which keyboards appear in the keyboard menu. If you deselect "Italian" there, it should not be able to manage to pop up again.

You should also check out System Preferences -> Keyboard and Mouse -> Keyboard Shortcut. If you look for the checkbox for "Input Menu", you'll see that you can use Cmd-Space or Cmd-Option-Space to switch to a different keyboard. Maybe you have turned that on, and every time you press Cmd-Option-Space your Mac switches to the other keyboard. If that is the case, just turn it off.

 

[lacornucopia]

Dear gnasher729,

Thank you for your prompt response. I am very familiary with what you've sugggested but, unfortunately, nothing changes. The (American) keyboard always reverts to Italian the Imput Menu!

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I don't know why it happens, but if you go to System Preferences -> International -> Input Menu, you can select which keyboards appear in the keyboard menu. If you deselect "Italian" there, it should not be able to manage to pop up again.

You should also check out System Preferences -> Keyboard and Mouse -> Keyboard Shortcut. If you look for the checkbox for "Input Menu", you'll see that you can use Cmd-Space or Cmd-Option-Space to switch to a different keyboard. Maybe you have turned that on, and every time you press Cmd-Option-Space your Mac switches to the other keyboard. If that is the case, just turn it off.

 

[hughvane]

When you go through the SysPrefs path to set the keyboard to American, lock the SysPrefs against further changes. See if that works.

 

[lacornucopia]

Dear g4cubed,

Thank you for your prompt reply.

The region has always been set for US, the keyboard is US layout, the Imput Menu is set for US with Italian unchecked. And yet . . .

I've never understood why and it become very irritating at times. ???

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Just a guess, but what region is it set at? It could be a regional thing that keeps making it revert back.

 

[lacornucopia]

Dear hughvane,

Thank you for your response.

Please advise: Where do I lock System Preferences? If I click on the Preference Panes' folder >Command I, all seems to be already locked. Or am I going to the wrong place.

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When you go through the SysPrefs path to set the keyboard to American, lock the SysPrefs against further changes. See if that works.

 

[hughvane]

Where do I lock System Preferences? If I click on the Preference Panes' folder >Command I, all seems to be already locked. Or am I going to the wrong place.

SysPrefs > Show All. Choose Accounts, which will show the padlock. However, if all your Prefs are already locked, that's why your keyboard keeps reverting to Italian even though you change the setting in International. So, if that is the case, unlock your SysPrefs, THEN change the keyboard setting to US etc, and THEN lock the Prefs once again. Hope that works for you.

 

[Nermal]

What sort of physical keyboard is it?

 

[lacornucopia]

Thank you, nermal!

The keyboard is (I believe) the latest model, flat aluminum, acquired in the States last January.

What sort of physical keyboard is it?

 

[lacornucopia]

Thank you again, hughvane.

I've done as you've suggested. Let's see what happens. But, if this is the case, how can we explain that the US setting remains for varied lengths of time of then and then, one day, again, the keyboard again automatically reverts to Italian?

SysPrefs > Show All. Choose Accounts, which will show the padlock. However, if all your Prefs are already locked, that's why your keyboard keeps reverting to Italian even though you change the setting in International. So, if that is the case, unlock your SysPrefs, THEN change the keyboard setting to US etc, and THEN lock the Prefs once again. Hope that works for you.

 

[lacornucopia]

Italian, no US, Italian again, NO ...US!!! (keyboard layout)

I wish someone knew the solution to my problem. Nothing suggested thus far works!

I live in Italy, use OS 10.5.5 and all programs in English. Will someone, SOMEONE PLEASE, tell me why my (flat aluminum) keyboard—for months now—continually reverts to Italian after I set, reset, reset and reset it again for US or US Extended?

Please and thank you.

 

[lighthouse_man]

If you have Italian as another input menu language in the International system preferences, make sure that the keyboard shortcut to go through the languages is not a shortcut that is similar to another shortcut that you use in a different program or hit by mistake. Change that and see.

 

[lacornucopia]

Dear lighthouse man,

Thank you. My apologies but I really do not understand what you mean. I have US and US Extended checked in International. Nothing else (I have to continually uncheck Italian Pro. In Keyboard & Mouse shortcuts but have unchecked Imput Menu.

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If you have Italian as another input menu language in the International system preferences, make sure that the keyboard shortcut to go through the languages is not a shortcut that is similar to another shortcut that you use in a different program or hit by mistake. Change that and see.

 

[hughvane]

I wish someone knew the solution to my problem. Nothing suggested thus far works!

I'm going to come in from left field here and suggest that you discard that Apple keyboard and try, just try, a generic Win keyboard, which should be readily available where you are. Cost? Maybe US$15 - US$20.

As to brand - your choice - but it needn't be a 'name' one like Microsoft or Logitech. I have a Genius PS2 k/b which works admirably via adaptor, and am presently typing on a USB Chicony Excel (a what??). You will need to make some minor adjustments to your usual typing habits but 95% of Win keystrokes are the same.

Maybe it'll work round the language problem, I really can't predict that, but if it does, your frustration is over (only to be replaced by something else!!).