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iTMS Australia In January?

rog said:
No offense to Aussies, but why would Apple even bother? It's an incredibly small market. The population of the entire country is only that of a good size US state, and it's something like half the population of California. I just can't imagine that Apple will ever recoup the investment to set up specific stores, license agreements, etc. for such small countries.
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why ignore a market that is in the top ten music buying countries? ahead of other markets with 3, 4, 5 times the population. the only question to ask is "why did it take so long?"
 
A good sign for NZ

NZ currently has an online music store, Digirama. Apparently Apple refused to licence Fairplay to them. To me, that looks like a good sign that Apple intends to release iTunes here (why else wouldn't they want people buying from a competitor?)
 
ekullhu said:
also note

"3. It shall be lawful for the Queen, with the advice of the Privy Council, to declare by proclamation that, on and after a day therein appointed, not being later that one year after the passing of this Act, the people of New South Wales, Victoria, South Australia, Queensland, and Tasmania, and also, if Her Majesty is satisfied that the people of Western Australia have agreed thereto, of Western Australia, shall be united in a Federal Commonwealth under the name of the Commonwealth of Australia."


The original set of states were NSW, VIC, SA, QLD and TAS with WA pending at the time of the writing of this constitution. Point 6 that you quoted mentions all commonwealth colonies that can join the commonwealth of Australia as states, "such colonies or territories as may be admitted into or established by the Commonwealth as States". Note that the Northern Terriroy is also named along with New Zealand, though to this day it is still not a state. I believe they had a vote (possibly a few elections ago) on the question of whether or not they wanted to become a state and they voted to remain a terriroty.

Also, New Zealand it self was initially part of New South Wales at one point, though well before federation of Aus

oh yeah, go iTMS for Aus and hopefully NZ.
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cool thanks for clearing that up, obviously I am not a law student. :p
 
Finally, I've been aching to buy the Finn Brothers album, but the retail version has EMI's CopyControl on it (no thanks) and the only other online shop I can find that has it is AllOfMP3.com (which has had it's fair share of discussion already on these boards).

So do you guys think I should:

a. Download CD off AllOfMP3.com now (non-DRM CD quality for dirt cheap, but legality iffy, apparently it's okay in Australia :confused: )

or

b. Wait for iTMS (legal, but not too certain about quality and/or price, plus DRM)

PS. The law regarding music right now in Australia sucks, using iPods for music whatsoever is technically illegal (buy music for one media only - sorry Mr. Speck, don't buy that :mad: )
 
I bet it will actually be released the day it is supposed to be released.

' ... a la.. the CDN experience....'
 
Not so fast ...

Hate to be a wet blanket, but this is more likely to be simply a briefing for local journalists on new product announcements from Macworld. There's been at least one similar media event held by Apple Australia in the past, and it was at the same hotel.

Apple Australia isn't taking its usual contingent of journalists to Macworld this time, so this is probably its way of making up for it.

Also, aren't iTMS announcements normally made at a dedicated media event, not clashing with Macworld?

I spoke to Apple Australia's software manager just before Christmas and he left me with the impression we wouldn't be hearing about the iTMS anytime soon.

That said, I hope I'm wrong!
 
WebHead said:
Hate to be a wet blanket, but this is more likely to be simply a briefing for local journalists on new product announcements from Macworld. There's been at least one similar media event held by Apple Australia in the past, and it was at the same hotel.
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they usually like to keep these things for journalists only.
this one appears to be open to anyone.
an apple employee would tell you black is white if his/her job depended on it.
probably will be a replay of the keynote and the new stuff there to use.
iPods have reached critical mass here so iTMS is due.
we will only know for sure on the 12th.
 
Rian said:
I'm in Tucson, AZ now, but will be moving to Wollongong, Australia in February... I've been waiting for this announcement! Hopefully this way I won't have to go without my iTunes at all!! :)
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I don't know what Tucson is like but try not to shoot yourself in the head when you get to Wollongong.
 
has anyone checked the back doors of itunes to see if there's a little australian flag icon? that's what got all the canadians wound up about the imminent opening of the canada itms.

also, i bet they will try hard to have songs for $0.99 australian. why not? they did it in canada. the way they have billing set up is that you must have a credit card (and billing address) in the country of the itms from which you want to purchase. so, it's nearly impossible to cross-border shop. it's not like other countries can take advantage of canada's (and likely australia's, imho) lower song prices, so it would only help apple by encouraging more sales in that country.

weren't some people predicting $1.29-$1.49 for the canada itms? :rolleyes:

good luck, aussies. i'm part kiwi myself, so i hope nz gets included too :)
 
autopilot said:
has anyone checked the back doors of itunes to see if there's a little australian flag icon? that's what got all the canadians wound up about the imminent opening of the canada itms.
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This is the link you are talking about:
http://ax.phobos.apple.com.edgesuite.net/images/flag_canada.jpg

If you change the country name to australia there is a 404 error, so I guess maybe there is no iTMS coming. The press conference must be to introduce the headless Mac.
 
broken_keyboard said:
This is the link you are talking about:
http://ax.phobos.apple.com.edgesuite.net/images/flag_canada.jpg

If you change the country name to australia there is a 404 error, so I guess maybe there is no iTMS coming. The press conference must be to introduce the headless Mac.
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Case in point:
http://ax.phobos.apple.com.edgesuite.net/images/flag_ireland.jpg and
http://ax.phobos.apple.com.edgesuite.net/images/flag_italy.jpg

*hopes they are just keeping a tight lid on things*

- LukeyD
 
macridah said:
My collegues in Japan can't wait for a local version ofiTuneMusic Store--they need to put stuff in their iPod mini, which everyone has.
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They can't rip CDs in Japan?
 
mac15 said:
I can't wait for it, there has been speculation for months. I'd got my hopes up when Unwired CEO said something was 'coming' soon. But that seems to have fallen through (merely pushed back?)

I've registered for the event, I've never been to an Apple related event like it so it should be awesome.
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Here is an article on the Unwired / Apple thingy that is going on...

aussie_geek
 
aswitcher said:
So who is going to the Sydney Apple meeting - and reporting back here right away?
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Well, given that it's summer and consequently very holidayish and not-so-busy, I might be considering heading over to Avalon to grab a cheap flight to Sydney for the day... maybe... :)
 
Reality check

Call me a cynic, but I'd be very cautious about getting too excited over Oz iTMS rumours.

It's perfectly feasible that the "Macworld Event" at the Sydney Westin is just a local rehash of the MWSF keynote, with an Apple Australia rep in place of Steve. This wouldn't be unprecedented, and might just be Apple increasing its PR efforts here. If rumours of a headless iMac and new iWork suite are true, these would be sufficient reason to hold an event.

I don't have any specific inside info one way or another, but I'm afraid my level of faith in Apple Australia, along with my perception of Apple US interest in markets outside of North America, lead me to be pessimistic about an iTMS here any time soon. I can foresee Telstra, Virgin, HMV, Microsoft and any other number of competitors getting their act together long before Apple Oz does.

In a couple of weeks we'll know whether I'm the doomsayer or the voice of reason :)

BTW, I am planning to go to the Westin on the 12th, and am happy to report back here afterwards.
 
Now all Apple have to do is realise that the Aussie dollar has risen to 78c and subsequently for a US$2999 Dual 2.5 we should only be paying AU$3900 not $5299 like we are!

It's the same with everything.

You guys in America think that Apple is expensive, you should come out here we we have to pay a 35% premium on the stuff.

Jobbs it's time to drop the prices buddy, especially as I need a new Powerbook soon.
 
ekullhu said:
The original set of states were NSW, VIC, SA, QLD and TAS with WA pending at the time of the writing of this constitution. Point 6 that you quoted mentions all commonwealth colonies that can join the commonwealth of Australia as states, "such colonies or territories as may be admitted into or established by the Commonwealth as States".
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When Australia was formed in 1901, NZ was not part of it. When it was attempted 20 years earlier, NZ was a part, but Victoria didn't sign on, and the whole thing fell through.
WebHead said:
Hate to be a wet blanket, but this is more likely to be simply a briefing for local journalists on new product announcements from Macworld. There's been at least one similar media event held by Apple Australia in the past, and it was at the same hotel.
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Triple M (the Sydney radio station) is doing a '2005 best songs ever' countdown, At the rate they're going they'll finish a week into January.

They are also offering prizes of an iPod with all 2005 songs preloaded. To do that, they must have a legal way of putting the songs on... So I'm leaning towards this rumour being real :)
 
OziMac said:
Well, given that it's summer and consequently very holidayish and not-so-busy, I might be considering heading over to Avalon to grab a cheap flight to Sydney for the day... maybe... :)
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Save your money or give it to the Tsunami victims.
<cynicism>Apple Australia will be the last to know about the launch of iTMS - they will be as much surprised by it as you and I..</cynicism>
 
JRM said:
Now all Apple have to do is realise that the Aussie dollar has risen to 78c and subsequently for a US$2999 Dual 2.5 we should only be paying AU$3900 not $5299 like we are!

It's the same with everything.

You guys in America think that Apple is expensive, you should come out here we we have to pay a 35% premium on the stuff.

Jobbs it's time to drop the prices buddy, especially as I need a new Powerbook soon.
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:eek:
i will attempt a thread crossover. at this event in sydney steve will come on the videolink and announce that the new headless Mac ($599 us) will be available in australia 3 weeks before anyone else at aud$699

...must...stop...reading....macrumors...appleinsider....
 
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