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i've been ready to spend hundreds on itms ever since the rumors started. now it looks like i will have to wait until november 30th at 11:59:59 pm --- that's so like apple.

someone mentioned an event happening today somewhere in canada. don't remember reading about that. is it happening in toronto? and at what time i wonder?

wonder what the prices will be like. some say 99cents. not sure.
 
sheesh.

That's it...the first song I'm going to buy on iTMS if it's available is Spirit of th West's "Far too Canadian". The lyrics seem appropriate:

i'm so content, to stand in line
wait and see, pass the time
talk a streak, fall alseep, wake up late, whine and weep
i kiss the hand that slaps me senseless
i'm so accepting, so defenseless
i am far too Canadian

i pick the bones, of what's been done
lick them clean, with a cautious tongue
in dim lit rooms, i spill my guts
i'm the revolution when the doors are shut
i'd bite the hand that slaps me senseless
but my patience is too relentless
i am far too Canadian
 
cantrdr said:
'Frozen Wasteland' ....don't sell us so short!! We're still worth $30mln+ to Apple if we all bought one track!

$30 Million... is that Canadian?

Is that worth even 1 hour of Steve's time? ;)
 
advocate said:
Hey now, we're fast approaching parity.. 84.88 cents and rising!

Just think how cheap those iPods will be after we hit parity and beyond eh!! Thanks W
 
antirealist said:
Mr. Basskin said his organization only recently initiated discussions with Apple regarding iTunes, and as of Thursday they were “close to an agreement.”

Wasn't the CRIA telling everybody 6 months ago that everything was negotiated with Apple and they didn't know why Apple was dragging their feet?
 
Pesos, eh?

cantrdr said:
Canadian...pesos... whatever you want to call it!!!
hmm...
Jan 2003 - 1 CAD = 0.65 USD
Nov 2004 - 1 CAD = 0.85 USD
that "pesos" is projected to be 1-1 if not more within a few years.
so there
:)
 
No event, it seems.

I think we can assume there will be no announcement event. No press releases have been sent out, no forums booked, nothing. I guess it will be a pretty silent launch, followed up by a marketing blitz.

It's really odd that all these under-the-hood changes took place the day before the launch of the EU stores, but we've witnessed the better part of a week of such conditions now. Getting frustrated, I am.

AEC
 
ozone said:
Every product I've waited for - not until 200X; my own personal order - delayed 3 weeks only to find out the wrong thing had been internally ordered by Apple Canada - forget that - back to Windows; store that I bought the PowerBook for my wife - now closed down; been waiting for iTunes to come out in Canada for so long, I really don't know if I care anymore.
From the pattern, it sounds like, after iTMS Canada opens, everyone else in Canada will buy music online and download it immediately while you will buy music and it will say ":( sorry - iTMS is out of stock of that song - your download will be delayed 3 weeks". I hope you have better luck than that!
 
I don't know who posted this but they said they knew someone on the "inside" and that Apple was not going to release iTMS in Canada until Thanksgiving is over. Which to me makes sense, because if all of the stores are based out of Cupertino, I'm assuming the majority of the staff is not working today.
 
distortions from the CMRRA

stcanard said:
Wasn't the CRIA telling everybody 6 months ago that everything was negotiated with Apple and they didn't know why Apple was dragging their feet?

Actually, it wasn't just the CRIA, it was exactly the same person, and while they'll likely never publish it, here's a quick letter I sent to the Globe & Mail (I would have called Mr. Basskin a "liar" or worse, but he may just be a simpleton or a fool):

Apple's iTunes online music store is apparently poised to open in Canada ("Apple ready to press play on iTunes in Canada", Globe & Mail, Nov. 26), but the Canadian recording industry is disturbingly self-contradictory. In particular, you quote David Basskin of the Canadian Musical Reproduction Rights Agency as saying "his organization only recently initiated discussions with Apple regarding iTunes". However, in April of this year the very same Mr. Basskin told AppleInsider that the CMRRA "are presently in negotiations with Apple to license the iTunes Music Store for activity in Canada, and hope the negotiations lead to an agreement soon, but noted that the timing and manner of the service launch remain entirely in Apple's hands" ("CMRRA points finger at Apple over iTMS Canada delays", April 19, 2004). It would probably be far easier for the music industry to convince people to buy music if they weren't such transparent dissemblers.
 
aestival said:
Actually, it wasn't just the CRIA, it was exactly the same person, and while they'll likely never publish it,

Glad you had the reference to be able to point to for a letter!

The Globe actually has quite a good track record for publishing that kind of thing, so it might make it. I'll keep an eye out for you letter :)
 
Super Dave said:
You're funny. Apple STILL hasn't dropped a single price that I can see despite the formidable strength of the Canadian dollar.

David :cool:

Apple drops prices all the time. The original iPod cost $399 US and $599 CAN. That's 0.66 exchange. The 40gb iPod costs $399 US and $559 CAN, that's 0.71, but if you account for the $25 levy on the Canadian one, for $534 CAN, it's 0.75, which is very close to exchange at the time, 0.77.

What apple does is set the price when they release new products or revisions, then keep that price until the next revision. So when the iPod is revised next it will have a price set by a more favorable rate, assuming the American dollar continues to weaken.
 
fair exchange

SpamJunkie said:
Apple drops prices all the time. The original iPod cost $399 US and $599 CAN. That's 0.66 exchange. The 40gb iPod costs $399 US and $559 CAN, that's 0.71, but if you account for the $25 levy on the Canadian one, for $534 CAN, it's 0.75, which is very close to exchange at the time, 0.77.

What apple does is set the price when they release new products or revisions, then keep that price until the next revision. So when the iPod is revised next it will have a price set by a more favorable rate, assuming the American dollar continues to weaken.

The day before Apple announced the iPod Photo, the dollar was at 81.75, and for the preceding two weeks it was trading at around 80 cents. This isn't a small distinction: using 81.75 would make a 60GB iPod $757 instead of $799 (and yes, I didn't apply the exchange to the $25 levy). With 15% tax, that makes for a difference of almost fifty dollars! The reason people are complaining (and buying iPods in the US) is that the price should now be down to $729. Also makes waiting to buy a lot more attractive: if the dollar climbs modestly to 88 cents by late January, and Apple drops the 60GB iPod Photo to $499US, a fair exchange would drop the Canadian price from $799 to $599 (!)
 
aestival said:
using 81.75 would make a 60GB iPod $757 instead of $799

You read too much into my post. I was just proving to Super Dave that Apple has changed their prices with currency exchange changes.

He said "Apple STILL hasn't dropped a single price that I can see".
 
aestival said:
T The reason people are complaining (and buying iPods in the US) is that the price should now be down to $729. Also makes waiting to buy a lot more attractive: if the dollar climbs modestly to 88 cents by late January, and Apple drops the 60GB iPod Photo to $499US, a fair exchange would drop the Canadian price from $799 to $599 (!)

Tell me about it. A friend of mine has US banking/credit accounts as well as an office in California. I'd rather buy Apple stuff from the US store. When I bought my iPod (get this), it was CHEAPER to buy from the US store LIST than from the Canadian store with educational or developer discount.

Time to wake up folks... You get more money when the money flies south of the border... Pass it along to the consumer. You might find you'll sell more.
 
Looks like no iTMS for Canada today

I think if it hasn't arrived yet today then it's not going to. Probably on Tuesday Nov. 30?

What do you think?
 
my money is on this coming tuesday...

although i'm not actually betting any money AND it makes it easier that most of the other predicted dates have passed... ;)
 
if it is indeed tuesday i'll be both thrilled and p'd off at the same time. that's the way i usually am with apple. it has already taken way too long and now the november launch will turn out to be the very last day of the month. typical.
 
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