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iTools = .Mac?

This is a smart move, not a fake

Evidence in favour of .Mac:
- it's in the new Apple typeface
- you don't fool around with developer releases - especially not at this late stage
- it's all over Jaguar - does the OS X team really have this much time for an elaborate hoax?

Reasons why it's a smart idea:
- Web services is an important new revenue opportunity for Apple
- .Mac has broader meaning than iTool - you can produce a wider variety of services under the new name
- .Mac is easy to understand - it immediately expresses Web services for Mac users, thanks to Microsoft's marketing of .net
- iChat connects iTools users to to AOL services - .Mac is arguably the next step in the process - expect something like "passport.mac" enabling you to access services from other AOL friendly companies

Finally, check out the .Mac analysis in this c|net article:
http://news.com.com/2100-1040-942608.html
 
Re: This is a smart move, not a fake

Originally posted by Foocha
Evidence in favour of .Mac:
- it's all over Jaguar - does the OS X team really have this much time for an elaborate hoax?

Reasons why it's a smart idea:
- Web services is an important new revenue opportunity for Apple
- iChat connects iTools users to to AOL services - .Mac is arguably the next step in the process - expect something like "passport.mac" enabling you to access services from other AOL friendly companies
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Good points. I suppose there's a good likelihood that .mac isn't all smoke and mirrors. I was reacting to the ThinkSecret set of leaked screengrabs, not realizing that the reports of .Mac's presence is more widely confirmed, thus greatly substantiating the evidence :rolleyes:
Guess that's what these BBS' are for eh? ;)
 
guys..

I don't know if you guys have tried this yet or not, but if you type

www.mac.com

in the web browser, it brings up iTools.. which more or less confirms this whole deal doesn't it?
 
Re: guys..

Originally posted by iapple
I don't know if you guys have tried this yet or not, but if you type

www.mac.com

in the web browser, it brings up iTools.. which more or less confirms this whole deal doesn't it?
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Been that way for a long, long time.
 
Maybe it's the hook into the upgraded fee-for-service version of iTools.

Apple, at some point, is going to follow the same model as all the other free internet services and start the upgraded paid versions of their free stuff.
 
Re: This is a smart move, not a fake

Originally posted by Foocha
expect something like "passport.mac" enabling you to access services from other AOL friendly companies
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Heck No!!! you didn't really separate the words "passport" and "mac" with only a period did you? You did! Microsoft already has their "passport" if on the off chance this whole thread has some truth in it, the .mac=.net makes it all look oh so bad in oh so many ways.
 
I think there's no doubt that .mac is a reference to .net

Whether this indicates that Apple are snuggling up closer to Microsoft or pulling further away is up for debate - it'll be the most interesting aspect of the keynote next week.

Three key issues to look out for regarding the Apple/Microsoft relationship:

1. Will .mac services be based on .net?
2. Will Apple bring out a Mozilla based browser with an Apple skin?
3. Will Apple start distributing AOL client with OS X?
 
no way

Sure, marketability, yada yada, future revenue stream, yada-yada, but does anyone know of a time when SJ renamed anything that could possibly confuse a solid user base?

I don't think so... I could be wrong. Newbie status.
 
Steve Jobs renamed "Rhapsody" as "OS X Server"

Steve Jobs renamed "Claris" as "Filemaker"

Steve Jobs renamed "Claris Works" as "Apple Works"
 
Confusing names

I think the most confusing name that Steve's team has come up with is surely "Xserve." Since this product is aimed at UNIX server administrators, surely it's too close to "X Server" - the UNIX X Window server. Hmm.
 
It's not nice to use the sigh icon.

Not clear on what you mean by weak.

I don't believe that there has ever been a case of an OS developer releasing code containing a hoax like this - it's like saying to you business partners "sorry guys, that thing you've been sweating over for the past few weeks was just a waste of time!" Not the best way to keep your community of developers happy.

What do you mean by Steve Jobs being a piece of pie?
 
Originally posted by Foocha
Steve Jobs renamed "Rhapsody" as "OS X Server"

Steve Jobs renamed "Claris" as "Filemaker"

Steve Jobs renamed "Claris Works" as "Apple Works"
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Rhapsody = Developer in house name for project

Claris = Windows people not considering excellent product because Claris name tied to Claris works, which makes windows people think of Mac (Even though Claris works for a long time was way the hell better than MS Works).

Which leads to Claris Works, obviously had to change the name if you are renaming the division/wholey owned subsididity/pick one. Yes, us old schoolers know exactly what Claris is, and thus could figure out what Claris works is, but new Mac users might not know as much, and Apple Works would make more sense to them. They would know immediately what it is.
 
That got me thinking, They should just make appleworks into separate iApps.

iWrite, iDraw, iCalc, iPresent. Hey, even the names sound cooler. Of couse Apple would then be giving away something they used to sell.
 
Rhapsody was a lot more than an internal developer name - it was widely publicised, together with its Yellow Box and Blue Box frameworks. It was set to replace Mac OS until Mac OS X was announced, and there was even talk of developing a Yellow Box framework for MS Windows, making Rhapsody a cross platform environment. (I think there was even an O'Reilly book on Rhapsody).

When Apple annouced OS X, they rebadged Yellow Box as Cocoa, Blue Box as Classic, and introduced a new framework called "Carbon." They gave up on the idea of Cocoa for Windows (imagine!)

What I find confusing is that they then released Rhapsody anyway, but named it OS X Server - even though it had little to do with OS X, since it didn't include the Carbon framework.

OS X is a great product, but surely you must agree that the changes in names was confusing to many.
 
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