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Couldn't care less about the Apple Watch. For me this is like a Samsung product. Wants to achieve too much, is slow and totally cluttered. I cannot support Apple in this, even if I love their products. Steve would never let the Apple Watch get out of their labs..

Since you knew Steve so well you should write a book. You can fill us in on all your personal interactions with him.
 
I'll be more excited when I start seeing shipping updates. I am in the first delivery window but I am not holding my breath for Friday.
 
Since you knew Steve so well you should write a book. You can fill us in on all your personal interactions with him.

This!!!
Lol, I wish the mods would make a sticky that said: "you, in all actuality, do NOT know what Steve Jobs would or would not do... so ****".
 
You know, there is nothing wrong liking the Apple Watch. I also think though that people should stop accepting everything that Apple produces, just because it's from Apple.
Just try to remember what Apple is (was) about. Remember what Steve Jobs used to say.
Then try to see and examine Apple's line-up. The only confusing product that Apple has is the Apple Watch. Everything else is intuitive and simple...

Used the apple watch the other day for the first time and instantly picked it up and was surprised by the familiarity to iOS. I think it's just as intuitive and simple and more exciting even than other products..
 
Used the apple watch the other day for the first time and instantly picked it up and was surprised by the familiarity to iOS. I think it's just as intuitive and simple and more exciting even than other products..

I have tried liking it but I just can't. This was not the case with the original iPhone.
For people that like it, great. Enjoy it. I just can't find any useful scenario for it. I prefer to have my wrist free of anything.
 
I might. You never know.

Still doesn't mean you have any real clue what someone living or dead would do in the way of product development. SJ debuted the iPhone and almost didn't complete the demo due to unresolved issues and he still gave it the green light to launch.

Just saying.
 
Still doesn't mean you have any real clue what someone living or dead would do in the way of product development. SJ debuted the iPhone and almost didn't complete the demo due to unresolved issues and he still gave it the green light to launch.

Just saying.

You cannot compare the iPhone to the Apple Watch. When the iPhone was announced everybody was amazed by it. The non believers just said that it was expensive and wouldn't sell. Nobody said that the iPhone wasn't revolutionary. Now, with the Apple Watch nobody has said that it's revolutionary. Best case, people said that it's the best SmartWatch, but this doesn't really say much..
 
Why is it a marvel?

Because it draws in people who aren't even interested in it. It's not just the technology, it's also the marketing.

You can have the greatest technology in the world, but if you don't know how to sell it to people, it will fail and your great idea will die. I think that's where some of the earlier attempts have failed. They didn't really, really try to sell their ideas. Not sure they even knew how to.

It's going to be fascinating to watch Apple grapple with this.

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I don't think it could get much less interesting than it is at the moment so it can only go up from here! Hahaha

That's true. We're scraping the bottom of a nonexistent barrel right now. :)
 
Because it draws in people who aren't even interested in it. It's not just the technology, its also the marketing.

You can have the greatest technology in the world, but if you don't know how to sell it to people, it will fail and your great idea will die. I think that's where some of the earlier attempts have failed. They didn't really, really try to sell their ideas. Not sure they even knew how to.

It's going to be fascinating to watch Apple grapple with this.

Marketing power isn't a marvel. Apple could produce an expensive toilet paper and everybody would want it.
 
Marketing power isn't a marvel. Apple could produce an expensive toilet paper and everybody would want it.

But isn't that effect fascinating in itself?

That the difference between product failure and success might not be entirely dependent on the product? Not initially, anyway.
 
This is the first real product developed and launched under Tim Cook's watch. This is his defining moment. He's going to make this watch work perfectly regardless of what it takes in terms of resources. I'm spending my $1000 very confidently.
 
But isn't that effect fascinating in itself?

That the difference between product failure and success might not be entirely dependent on the product? Not initially, anyway.

Actually it's sad. It's sad how uninformed people usually are. How they just follow, instead of making informed decisions about things. This doesn't only apply to Apple's products, but generally in life. People are just too lazy these days.
 
Don't forget movie stars and singers. THEY already have them.

Yeah but they aren't really hard core users like the forum members on here. Plus the stars aren't really motivated to provide real feedback on their real world experiences.
 
You cannot compare the iPhone to the Apple Watch. When the iPhone was announced everybody was amazed by it. The non believers just said that it was expensive and wouldn't sell. Nobody said that the iPhone wasn't revolutionary. Now, with the Apple Watch nobody has said that it's revolutionary. Best case, people said that it's the best SmartWatch, but this doesn't really say much..

Google it. Actually, just search here on MR. There were people who scoffed at the iPhone. And not just the price. Ditto the iPad (which SJ also gave the green light).
 
I am extremely excited. I knew I wanted this from the moment (before) it was officially announced. I'm in the first wave, and hoping mine arrives on Friday. I had it ship to work so I could get it right away. Waiting until Monday (or later!) would be agony.

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Google it. Actually, just search here on MR. There were people who scoffed at the iPhone. And not just the price. Ditto the iPad (which SJ also gave the green light).

I'm one of those who scoffed at the original iPhone, and even though I won a 1st gen iPad, I didn't care for it. Mind you, I use my iPad Air 2 for everything now, and go into panic mode if I don't see my iPhone!
 
This is the first real product developed and launched under Tim Cook's watch. This is his defining moment. He's going to make this watch work perfectly regardless of what it takes in terms of resources. I'm spending my $1000 very confidently.

No offense, but I always have to laugh when I read something like that.

It's a high margin product that is mass produced using a very fine tuned supply chain. This alone makes it a success for Apple.

Nobody cares if customers have to wait 4 weeks or not.
Just look at the pricing and try to comprehend the margin of this product.
It's a success for Tim Cook regardless of its future improvement or sales.

I know people like to believe it's special and all.
But even if Apple would never release another version and would stop production in June, it would still be a success.

No other company can introduce new products like that, not even Samsung, simply because they don't have the volume and cannot be as aggressive with their pricing.

There is no reasonable justification except your personal willingness to spend that amount of money on an Apple product. And Apple's marketing with all that watch manufacturing vocabulary has worked brilliantly.

Having said all that, I will also buy one.

But please don't assign magical attributes to this product.
It is not perfect at all.

It has none, it's not even a watch. It's a small computer that tells time on a fancy display.
 
Google it. Actually, just search here on MR. There were people who scoffed at the iPhone. And not just the price. Ditto the iPad (which SJ also gave the green light).

People had not seen anything like the iPad or iPhone when they came out. They were game changers. Smart watches have been around for a few years now. No one is saying the watch won't be AWESOME, but it's concept isn't revolutionary. I think that's his point.
 
Couldn't care less about the Apple Watch. For me this is like a Samsung product. Wants to achieve too much, is slow and totally cluttered. I cannot support Apple in this, even if I love their products. Steve would never let the Apple Watch get out of their labs..

And yet here you are posting in the Watch forum.
 
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