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that original mac pro holds up pretty well, doesn't it? I mean, it's not the best by a long shot, but it's 5 years old!
 
Dang the highest iMac is a beast! According to that picture and a little guessing the 27" Quad i7 can do stuff 7x faster than my early 08 Macbook.
I'm sold.
 
That 2009 MBP 2.66 appears to be wrong at first glance and second....

Rough guesstimates should be Average FPS x Time = Total frames

That 2009 MBP @ 14.1 FPS and 9:56s but:

2007 iMac has 13.1 FPS and 15:XX

2008 iMac has 15.4 FPS and 15:30s

Therefore these iMacs contradict themselves but within a margin of error but in my rough late-night math, that 2009 MBP is way off ~ 30-40%
 
OK, I know that this is the standard bigbuckbunny test but why is it the standard?

Most users are going to be converting from standard def DVD MPEG-2 or HD Blu-Ray MPEG-2, VC-1, or H.264

When is the average user ever going to use a simple profile 1080p mp4 in an AVI container? Who encodes that way and what devices play it back? DVD, PS3, Xbox360, Blu-Ray?

I'm asking because I have no idea and I've never seen more than 720p Simple Profile in an AVI, and I didn't know what could play it.

I just think that these benchmarks are useless in comparison to real scenarios but they are "ok" for comparing machines.

I'd rather see...
first 3 chapters of "Caddyshack" DVD takes x minutes @ yy FPS
 
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Consistency.

Not everyone's DVD drive is the same.
Not everyone has Caddyshack on DVD.

I think the main reason for the 1080 is to really stress the machines. Not in a folding@home super unit time sort of way. But a 5-10 minute benchmark is quick an smooths out the little inconsistencies in doing repeated tests.
 
Mac Pro 3.2Ghz Quad Core, 5870 ATI Mid 2010:
Average 47.5 fps
Time to encode: 5 mins 2 s
(pending Queue was 0 as well, but one second later encoding began)
 
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2011 base 2.5 GHz i5 6 mins 21 secs.

average encoding speed for job is 37.662155 fps
 
Encoding time 2:31.
Avg encoding speed: 95.727776 fps.

After turning off some of the background tasks:
Encoding time 2:24.
Avg encoding speed: 99.939011 fps.


Here is the log. I hope I got it right:

HandBrake Activity Log for /Users/sgunes/Desktop/big_buck_bunny_1080p_surround.m4v: 2011-05-05 21:01:58 -0500
Handbrake Version: 0.9.5 x86_64 (2011010300)

[21:01:58] macgui: Rip: Pending queue count is 1
[21:01:58] macgui: getNextPendingQueueIndex next pending encode index is:0
[21:01:58] macgui: scanning specifically for title: 1
[21:01:58] hb_scan: path=/Users/sgunes/Downloads/big_buck_bunny_1080p_surround.avi, title_index=1
libbluray/bdnav/index_parse.c:157: indx_parse(): error opening /Users/sgunes/Downloads/big_buck_bunny_1080p_surround.avi/BDMV/index.bdmv
libbluray/bluray.c:960: nav_get_title_list(/Users/sgunes/Downloads/big_buck_bunny_1080p_surround.avi) failed (0x114007a00)
[21:01:58] bd: not a bd - trying as a stream/file instead
libdvdnav: Using dvdnav version 4.1.3
libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.10 for DVD access
libdvdnav:DVDOpenFileUDF:UDFFindFile /VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.IFO failed
libdvdnav:DVDOpenFileUDF:UDFFindFile /VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.BUP failed
libdvdread: Can't open file VIDEO_TS.IFO.
libdvdnav: vm: failed to read VIDEO_TS.IFO
[21:01:58] dvd: not a dvd - trying as a stream/file instead
Input #0, avi, from '/Users/sgunes/Downloads/big_buck_bunny_1080p_surround.avi':
Metadata:
encoder : AVI-Mux GUI 1.17.7, Aug 8 2006 20:59:17
JUNK :
Duration: 00:09:56.45, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 12455 kb/s
Stream #0.0: Video: mpeg4, yuv420p, 1920x1080 [PAR 1:1 DAR 16:9], 24 tbr, 24 tbn, 24 tbc
Stream #0.1: Audio: ac3, 48000 Hz, 5.1, s16, 448 kb/s
[21:01:58] scan: decoding previews for title 1
[21:01:58] scan: audio 0x1: AC-3, rate=48000Hz, bitrate=448000 Unknown (AC3) (5.1 ch)
[21:01:58] scan: 10 previews, 1920x1080, 24.000 fps, autocrop = 0/0/0/0, aspect 16:9, PAR 1:1
[21:01:58] scan: title (0) job->width:1920, job->height:1072
[21:01:58] libhb: scan thread found 1 valid title(s)
[21:01:58] macgui: ScanDone state received from fQueueEncodeLibhb
[21:01:58] macgui: Preset: AppleTV 2
[21:01:58] macgui: processNewQueueEncode number of passes expected is: 1
[21:01:58] macgui: Start / Stop set to chapters
[21:01:58] macgui: prepareJob exiting
[21:01:58] 1 job(s) to process
[21:01:58] starting job
[21:01:58] sync: expecting 14339 video frames
[21:01:58] job configuration:
[21:01:58] * source
[21:01:58] + /Users/sgunes/Downloads/big_buck_bunny_1080p_surround.avi
[21:01:58] + title 1, chapter(s) 1 to 1
[21:01:58] + container: avi
[21:01:58] + data rate: 12455 kbps
[21:01:58] * destination
[21:01:58] + /Users/sgunes/Desktop/big_buck_bunny_1080p_surround.m4v
[21:01:58] + container: MPEG-4 (.mp4 and .m4v)
[21:01:58] + 64-bit formatting
[21:01:58] * video track
[21:01:58] + decoder: mpeg4
[21:01:58] + frame rate: 24.000 fps -> peak rate limited to 29.970 fps
[21:01:58] + loose anamorphic
[21:01:58] + storage dimensions: 1920 * 1080 -> 1280 * 720, crop 0/0/0/0, mod 16
[21:01:58] + pixel aspect ratio: 1 / 1
[21:01:58] + display dimensions: 1280 * 720
[21:01:58] + encoder: x264
[21:01:58] + quality: 20.00 (RF)
[21:01:58] * audio track 0
[21:01:58] + decoder: Unknown (AC3) (5.1 ch) (track 1, id 1)
[21:01:58] + bitrate: 448 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
[21:01:58] + mixdown: Dolby Pro Logic II
[21:01:58] + encoder: ca_aac
[21:01:58] + bitrate: 160 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
[21:01:58] * audio track 1
[21:01:58] + decoder: Unknown (AC3) (5.1 ch) (track 1, id 1)
[21:01:58] + bitrate: 448 kbps, samplerate: 48000 Hz
[21:01:58] + AC3 passthrough
[21:01:58] reader: first SCR 11520 id 1 DTS 11520
[21:01:58] encx264: min-keyint: auto (29), keyint: 300
[21:01:58] encx264: encoding with stored aspect 1/1
[21:01:58] encx264: Encoding at constant RF 20.000000
x264 [info]: using SAR=1/1
x264 [info]: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 FastShuffle SSE4.2
x264 [info]: profile High, level 3.1
No accelerated IMDCT transform found
No accelerated IMDCT transform found
[21:04:21] reader: done. 1 scr changes
[21:04:22] work: average encoding speed for job is 99.939011 fps
[21:04:22] sync: got 14315 frames, 14339 expected
[21:04:22] mpeg4-decoder done: 14315 frames, 0 decoder errors, 0 drops
[21:04:22] render: 14313 frames output, 2 dropped and 0 duped for CFR/PFR
[21:04:22] render: lost time: 0 (0 frames)
[21:04:22] render: gained time: 0 (0 frames) (0 not accounted for)
x264 [info]: frame I:146 Avg QP:13.95 size:151915 PSNR Mean Y:49.32 U:52.16 V:52.64 Avg:50.07 Global:48.81
x264 [info]: frame P:5809 Avg QP:18.29 size: 21237 PSNR Mean Y:45.79 U:49.38 V:50.07 Avg:46.58 Global:45.55
x264 [info]: frame B:8358 Avg QP:23.83 size: 3717 PSNR Mean Y:45.30 U:48.99 V:49.72 Avg:46.12 Global:44.94
x264 [info]: consecutive B-frames: 15.1% 14.5% 12.6% 57.8%
x264 [info]: mb I I16..4: 12.5% 57.1% 30.4%
x264 [info]: mb P I16..4: 2.3% 5.2% 0.9% P16..4: 27.1% 13.1% 9.0% 0.0% 0.0% skip:42.4%
x264 [info]: mb B I16..4: 0.2% 0.6% 0.2% B16..8: 24.3% 2.6% 0.6% direct: 1.5% skip:70.0% L0:38.4% L1:53.2% BI: 8.4%
x264 [info]: 8x8 transform intra:61.4% inter:65.6%
x264 [info]: coded y,uvDC,uvAC intra: 61.9% 68.0% 43.9% inter: 13.4% 13.6% 2.9%
x264 [info]: i16 v,h,dc,p: 50% 22% 6% 22%
x264 [info]: i8 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu: 18% 16% 17% 6% 8% 11% 8% 8% 8%
x264 [info]: i4 v,h,dc,ddl,ddr,vr,hd,vl,hu: 22% 17% 13% 6% 10% 11% 9% 7% 6%
x264 [info]: i8c dc,h,v,p: 51% 22% 17% 11%
x264 [info]: Weighted P-Frames: Y:3.6% UV:1.8%
x264 [info]: ref P L0: 65.2% 16.4% 14.0% 4.4% 0.1%
x264 [info]: ref B L0: 90.1% 8.3% 1.6%
x264 [info]: ref B L1: 94.6% 5.4%
x264 [info]: SSIM Mean Y:0.9893431 (19.724db)
x264 [info]: PSNR Mean Y:45.539 U:49.181 V:49.893 Avg:46.345 Global:45.203 kb/s:2369.34
[21:04:22] mux: track 0, 14313 frames, 176608085 bytes, 2369.14 kbps, fifo 8
[21:04:22] mux: track 1, 27955 frames, 12395612 bytes, 166.28 kbps, fifo 512
[21:04:22] mux: track 2, 18636 frames, 33395712 bytes, 447.99 kbps, fifo 256
[21:04:22] libhb: work result = 0
 
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What are the specs of the computer?

EVGA SR-2, 2x Xeon 5650 running at 3.78 GHz on air, 24GB RAM, Lian-Li PC-P80, OSX 10.6.7 boot disc Mushkin (Sandforce) 240GB, Win 7 Ult 64bit boot disc Intel G2 160 GB, 9 x 2TB (Caviar Black, Hitachi, F4), Blu-Ray writer, Corsair AX1200 W PS, MSI GTX480 (overclocked).

Geekbench >27K http://browse.geekbench.ca/geekbench2/view/281305

I think that with some fine-tuning (getting rid of Sophos, Little Snitch and other programs) the fps can be pushed to >100.
 
2009 Mac Pro 8 core 2.26ghz - 4:29 at 53.6fps

16GB of RAM. CPU's were never 100% taxed. Looks like it didn't use hyperthreading very well. Looks like CPU utilization averaged around 50%. I'd see it jump from 39% to 88% and then back down again, but never a constant 80%+ utilization or anything.

So, a bit slower than the new 2011 iMac, but I got my Mac Pro for a good price recently, so I'm still very happy.
 
Would a SSD make any difference?

imy experience is that an SSD does not make any difference what so ever
botelneck is the processor only. I have 2 minis with sthe same processor and different graphic cards, the slower one has a small GPU and a 5400 drive the faster one the same core2duo 2.0 Ghz but a better GPU and a 400$ SSD, framerate is exactly the same. framerate is even the same if source/destination is on the external drive on the airport extreme. So the drives do not play any role
 
EVGA SR-2, 2x Xeon 5650 running at 3.78 GHz on air, 24GB RAM, Lian-Li PC-P80, OSX 10.6.7 boot disc Mushkin (Sandforce) 240GB, Win 7 Ult 64bit boot disc Intel G2 160 GB, 9 x 2TB (Caviar Black, Hitachi, F4), Blu-Ray writer, Corsair AX1200 W PS, MSI GTX480 (overclocked).

Now THAT is a slow computer! :)
 
2011 iMac 3.4 i7

work: average encoding speed for job is 56.899662 fps

4 minutes 11 seconds
 
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