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I really like notes and find my friends
Different strokes.
The green felt in GameCenter looks fugly.
How should I know? My point was that Steve seemed to know what consumers would love and how to amaze them. If Steve were still in charge of Apple right now, I'd be confident that iOS 7 was going to deliver.
Yeah agreed, stocks is dated and address book could be so much more.. but FMF and Notes are great IMO.
That must be why Samsung keeps using glossy plastic in all their phones, for that premium look and feel
If Jobs was still around, so would Forstall. We'd just get more of the same (ie. more skeuomorphism).
I guess we just have a difference of opinion. I'm not a fan of designing digital things to look like real world objects. I get it in certain instances, like GarageBand. But why design a contacts app that looks like a book but you can't flip the pages? Or a calendar app where when you go to a new month it rips off the previous month (like you might do with a paper calendar on your desk) but yet you can still flip back to the previous month and it looks as though you never ripped off the page. And what does faux leather and stiching have to do with locating friends?
Steve was great at a lot of things but the idea put forth by some that he was the ultimate arbiter of taste I think is questionable.
Well skeuomorphism is one thing, and I guess it's down to personal taste whether you enjoy it or not. But as for things like glossy icons, layout and the colour scheme for iOS, I happen to think they did a great job with that (ignoring iOS 6) and I would be pretty upset if the next iOS has a more boring and lifeless look.
I'm open to less skeuomorphism, I just don't want iOS to look dull.
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Ah, the urban legend. It still lives. I know it is difficult to believe this but iOS has the BIGGEST library of games, apps, movies, and music available for it. It is easy to use, and looks cool.
Yeah, people buy it because their friends have one.
Actually it's true. I have a teacher who has a colleague that bought an iPhone because his work crew had iPhones and he wanted to be part of the group. Even said he knew he spent a lot of money for the wrong reasons.
Before I owned an iPhone I seen the 3GS in 2008/09 I think and it looked great OS wise compared to everything else.
Personally I've never heard of anyone showing their preference for iPhones because of how the icons look. Infact it will probably sound ridiculous if the sales person told me to consider buying one cos of the icons.
Seems to me that Microsoft had the head start in the smartphone market. They simply squandered it.
Sure but that group had to start somewhere
Agreed. Although I don't really know why anyone buy something just to say that they have it. In my mind it's ridiculous...
Actually, it's NOT true. Posting about a single exception in no way invalidates the original assertion. If just means you know someone who had other reasons. Unless you're suggesting that EVERYONE behaves exactly like your friend, with the same needs and motivations?
I didn't mean to say that my exception means everything, but some people in this world actually do this. Of course it's a very small percentage.
I think Apple went a fair bit overboard in the quality department, but it was the polished look that actually has kept me enjoying the iOS updates as they have come along. The attention to detail is great and enjoyable, but I could do with a little less polish and a lot more features.
As long as it's not a Win 8 style layout - thats dull, boring and decidedly un-apple IMHO
Other question is: They pulled a lot of OS X 10.9 engineers to work on iOS 7. If iOS gets a really flat design especially calendar, contacts... it will be very inconsistent if the counterpart app on the Mac still has the old look and feel because OS X 10.9 will arrive much later. Besides people who do not immediately upgrade their mac like many companies who stick with a working system, will see the old interface on the mac and some completely new thing on their iDevice with maybe a new way to navigate or use the iOS app.
They've been saying OS X will see some slight UI changes. Likely making default apps consistent with iOS. Honestly I'm expecting iOS 7 to look a lot more like OS X.
I think that people are overreacting to the "flatness" rumors about the new UI in iOS. I cannot see Apple designing anything that looks bad. I, for one, am really excited to see what happens with the UI. Nonetheless, it wouldn't be game over for Apple either way. iOS devices have a lot more going for them than just the aesthetics of the UI. These are some of the best devices we have ever seen and people buy them in droves because the user experience is outstanding.
Exactly. People don't give Apple enough praise for the parts of the iOS user experience that are still outstanding.
Scrolling is still better on iOS than any other platform. Since you do that a lot on a phone, it's very important.
Copy & Paste are still better on iOS than any other platform.
The consistency of the hierarchical navigation (back button always in the corner, animations to guide you and imply how to return) is still a fantastic bit of design that beats how you navigate apps on other platforms (e.g. Android's click-links-and-use-the-back-button philosophy) for intuition.
Apple needs to do more in that direction. Yes, a visual refresh is important - but its not what people love about the design of iOS.
Yeah, but that was when smartphones were more geared towards enterprise and resistive touchscreens were all the rage.Seems to me that Microsoft had the head start in the smartphone market. They simply squandered it.
I don't give a **** about gloss. I do care about app selection, stability, and performance. I have had two Android devices, and both were laggy piles of **** with poor app offerings. It would take a lot more than ugly icons to move me to a different platform.