Well, that’s just not true. Wifi syncing has been around for years. I use it to sync music from my Mac to my iPhone all the time.
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It's impossible to transfer Photos library to Vision Pro without iCloud 🤯
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Huh?
We've been syncing things between devices for a long time, with a few different wireless technologies over time
Another factor to consider about 'cloud' storage and transfers. In the United States, it's not legal for certain types of data to leave one's custody. People in the finance and medical industries understand this.
Many companies also have strict rules about their proprietary data leaving their corporate network. Do you think Apple would have been comfortable having their proprietary Vision Pro design data on some other company's servers?
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Many companies also have strict rules about their proprietary data leaving their corporate network. Do you think Apple would have been comfortable having their proprietary Vision Pro design data on some other company's servers?
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This is just wrong. I do it on my iPad and iPhone all the time. Let me assure you it’s a lot faster via direct cable or wifi too.
Yes Apple does sell a dongle with USB-C that they state is for connecting to a Mac running their developer environment to support application development. That‘s not actually saying to support access to storage on the APV, or syncing with any other program, which is what most of us want. I am enough of a skeptic these days to find out exactly what that dongle supports before buying one for file transfer.
Just like cars are held back by the fact that there’s no proper way to attach a horseshoe.
They have no idea what’s going on, nor do they need to. All they see is that all their data is on all their devices, all the time. Their justified expectation is “of course my data is on all my devices, why shouldn’t it?”
I'm having a hard time seeing the utility of something like that when a better option, that accomplishes the same thing but includes automatic offsite, off device backup, exists. I just don't see how iCloud is devil here.
And if their data wasn't there, they would certainly be complaining. I've had some issues with iCloud Drive in the past, but Apple seems to have worked those out. And certainly not enough to make me consider not using it at all. Some people like to object to iCloud for reasons unknown.
If the device uses iCloud, and only iCloud, to sync data between Apple devices, that's Apple's choice, and no, it is not up to you. It is ONLY up to you as to whether or not you buy a product that works that way.
Don't think the OP's subject matter had anything to do with price
Apple does tend to stop eating the cake and listen to the flock at times
Nice post and it seems like lots tend to go off the deep end and miss the fact that the AVP is a beta/1rst gen product.
How many people knew the only way to transfer data from the AVP was iCloud? Apple knew and from all the reading and viewing the people that did know this fact didn't say it real loud or at all.
Picture the start of Star Wars and the writing on the screen states, In a galaxy far, far away, etc...Apple use to be about having options and Windows was the rigid one.
I must go and take my meds now because I spotted some lemmings and they are so fascinating
Come to think of it; how can a $4000 computer require a $3 subscription to unlock all features? Has any other comparable product ever used that business model?
That’s a trick question, right? There are no other comparable products.
If you mean comparable in a broader sense – iPhones, iPads and Macs all use this business model. Sure, you get 5GB free with your Apple ID, but beyond that you have to pay. Even with a $10k Mac.
Regarding only the photos, I wonder if there's a way to get image files using File Sharing from a Mac.
I've mentioned File Sharing from a Mac before:
How do I get media into this thing?
Try file-sharing and see if it works. Enable it on the Mac, and note the name or IP-address it identifies for the server. Then in Files on the AVP, follow the instructions here: https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/apple-vision-pro/tan7acdaa0e3/1.0/visionos/1.0 To me, those instructions are...
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Suppose you're viewing a folder shared from a Mac using Files on an AVP.
Suppose there are a number of image files in that folder.
According to this item in the AVP User Guide:
View and modify files and folders in Files on Apple Vision Pro
In Files on Apple Vision Pro, view and modify files stored in iCloud Drive and on Apple Vision Pro and other cloud storage providers.
If Quick Look is available, and it's anything like Quick Look on a Mac, or like preview in iPad Files, then it should be easy to move thru a series of image previews.
There's a screenshot on that page, and I see a Select button. From there, one could presumably copy or move any number of selected image files so they're stored on the AVP.
Exactly. The iPad was originally designed as a consumption device between Mac and iPhone, and has seen incremental updates over the years, but the software hasn't changed to mirror the hardware. They've left it in limbo with a half-baked OS that'll never have the same level of commitment for development as macOS.
If they want to replace all devices with the Vision Pro (as one user suggested was Apple's plan) they've definitely chosen the wrong base OS to work with.
1. That's not what a business model is.
2. Apple probably assumed that most or all people that are so invested in Apple that they would spend $3,500 on a wearable iPad were already using iCloud.
Not a comparable product, but BMW charged a subscription for heated seats awhile back.
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Apple has made some bad choices with iPadOS that they were pressured into making by this vocal minority that keeps insisting that somehow the tablet is the form factor of the future. Maybe they've seen too many movies, I don't know.
iPad was fine the way it was, without Stage Manager and without many other pseudo desktop features.
But iPad has also been replacing computers for people who don't really need computers since the day it was released in 2010. Each successive model and update that adds a new feature grabs at a new group of users who no longer need a computer. So they probably want to keep that trend going, since it has worked from the beginning. What they do not need to do is even attempt to replace the Mac entirely with the iPad, because that's simply not possible. If you dual boot an iPad into macOS, you now have a Mac that's too small to be a Mac, hardware that's not up to the task of even the most low end MacBook Air, and mandatory keyboard and mouse input since macOS is not a touch OS. That doesn't get anyone anywhere.
I can't imagine it being lucrative to build the hardware for that into every vehicle, and then only getting a return on the ones who subscribe. Only the owners in certain climates would even consider subscribing, and plenty would be so put off by the sheer audacity of it that they wouldn't.
BMW, bless their Bavarian souls, heard the clamor over the program and terminated it.
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But iPhones and iPad don't require it. You can easily sync local data on your Mac in Finder.
I'd rather have an iPad with macOS than I would a slightly better Meta Quest running a variant of iPadOS.
Ok you're right about that but perhaps you understood what I was trying to say anyway. We've pretty much established already that iCloud is fundamentally a requirement to use VP fully. You cannot transfer a large photo or music library without it. So I asked if you can think of any other high priced item that has a few select core features locked behind a cheapo $3 paywall? Someone mentioned BMW, crazy, but there can't be that many. Baffling concept really if you ask me. And don't forget I only found out about it after I already bought the VP!
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I've never paid a penny for iCloud, and do just as you say.
I'm sure Apple won't leave Vision Pro users unable to sync the device in a free, and fast way for too long, because that might just speed up the returns.