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It's impossible to transfer Photos library to Vision Pro without iCloud 🤯
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I just see an iPad with the same chip as the MacBook Air and think, why not make the Mac apps compatible with iPad, like they have in the opposite direction. They wouldn't need it to run macOS, just allow developers to make that work.
There are legitimate reasons to avoid using iCloud Photos. Anyone remember this? https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...rrupted-videos-photos-from-strangers.2371100/
I have the Premier Apple One package with 2TB and I still don't use it.
I have the Premier Apple One package with 2TB and I still don't use it.
I've come to think of Mac OS as being for people who want to manage their own data. Apple's mobile device OS's are designed for people who don't want to manage their own data or for people who don't know what data is.
That is not a standard, user accessible data port.
The “user accessible” part is important here.
Because it’s our data and we don’t want it on the cloud. How is it that we can understand your preference is what you state. We don’t tell you, you know you’re wrong for not thinking the way we do.
I have more data than iCloud can hold for starters.
And expecting something that Apple has allowed on all other devices, local sync etc, is perfectly reasonable.
It doesn’t have to be your preference, that’s fine. What isn’t fine is the many people here that are completely intolerant to the preferences of others telling us how we should behave and feel about it. It’s actually amazingly patronizing.
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No it’s still my choice. You’re wrong. If your obvious point is I can’t force Apple to make a function I want. Maybe.
Maybe if enough people bitch they will improve things. So please stop telling me what I can or cannot do. You don’t speak for Apple anymore than you do for me.
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Thanks so much for this bill check it out.Regarding only the photos, I wonder if there's a way to get image files using File Sharing from a Mac.
I've mentioned File Sharing from a Mac before:
How do I get media into this thing?
Try file-sharing and see if it works. Enable it on the Mac, and note the name or IP-address it identifies for the server. Then in Files on the AVP, follow the instructions here: https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/apple-vision-pro/tan7acdaa0e3/1.0/visionos/1.0 To me, those instructions are...forums.macrumors.com
Suppose you're viewing a folder shared from a Mac using Files on an AVP.
Suppose there are a number of image files in that folder.
According to this item in the AVP User Guide:
View and modify files and folders in Files on Apple Vision Pro
In Files on Apple Vision Pro, view and modify files stored in iCloud Drive and on Apple Vision Pro and other cloud storage providers.support.apple.com
If Quick Look is available, and it's anything like Quick Look on a Mac, or like preview in iPad Files, then it should be easy to move thru a series of image previews.
There's a screenshot on that page, and I see a Select button. From there, one could presumably copy or move any number of selected image files so they're stored on the AVP.
Have we established it will be that way forever? Maybe they update the software putting these features back in in future release? I don’t think we know definitively yet.
I think this move fits perfectly with the whole theme of Vision Pro and spacial computing, and iCloud is an essential part of Apple ecosystem but you don’t have to use it. You can wait for Dropbox or some other developer to come up with a solution.
I think the primary issue here is not so much the comedy limitation of de facto iCloud-only operation in and of itself, but rather the fact that, to my knowledge at least, it was never revealed prior to release. How many owners were warned about this at checkout? My guess is somewhere around zero.
Maybe they will, maybe they won't. I think it's irrelevant. A lot will change in future software releases but we are using, evaluating and reviewing the VP as it stands today, not as we wish it will be tomorrow.
Maybe that’s your view. Fair enough.
But I suspect for many, they are evaluating what it will be as well.
The original iPhone didn’t have copy/paste, yet people, rightly, surmised it would eventually get those features and bought it with that, correct, expectation.
Ok but that means we can't fault the VP for anything today because everything could be fixed in the future.
I think we can fault them for not communicating these deficiencies and for not communicating their plans on addressing them.
If they informed us prior to purchase/release there would be a lot less grumbling. Or if they came out with an announcement of, hey, sorry, we will be releasing an update that lets you rearrange icons, and lets you sync in a future release, you'd see a lot less handwringing.
Much like their battery gate debacle. The sin was not in flipping a setting that tried to save battery and degraded people's usage, it's just not having communicated that to us. And they paid quite dearly for that mistake, both in perception of botch, and lawsuit payout.
You'd think they might have learned their lesson.
The case for syncing photos or any data via a P2P connection is to decrease reliance on subscription services. This is obvious. This is contrary to Apple’s agenda, which is why things are the way they are. Taking away the option from users does not improve the user experience.
You seem to be thinking that the only possible reason behind Apple not offering that kind of functionality is that they want to make more money by selling iCloud subscriptions (the "Apple is evil" argument).
Obviously Apple wants to make more money, but that's not the only reason.
If you want the best possible user experience, something that "works like magic", you have to rely on cloud services.
Without iCloud, you'd be saving a handful of dollars a month, but you'd have to manage everything manually, which is not what most Apple users want to do.
Apple's target audience (me included) is made out of people that are willing to spend more to get the most seamless experience possible.
There are several drawbacks and costs associated with offering "multiple options".
- It costs more in terms of development and maintenance.
- It makes the product less intuitive to use for everyone except the users that benefit from the alternative options.
- It makes the product less innovative (can't implement new features if they are incompatible with legacy features).
Companies have to carefully evaluate the costs and benefits of each feature/option against their target market when designing a product.
P2P sync has almost no benefits and a lot of drawbacks for the vast majority of users. Therefore Apple would be totally right about dropping it completely in favour of iCloud sync.
If you prioritize saving a few bucks a month at the expense of doing all the sync manually, then you'd be better served by a Linux machine.
For those of you who actually do this, how do you ever keep anything in sync? Steve Jobs described this problem in 2011, and I doubt it’s gotten any better. Sync your iPad but then you sync your iPhone and there’s new photos to send to everything and so on and so on. Does not sound like an experience I would be wanting to deal with all these years later, especially with a bulky headset that it’s annoying to take on and off.
Some of the comments here seem to be under the presumption this is a common way to use Apple devices in 2024. I can assure you it is not. If this ever comes they have far bigger fires to put out right now.
Some of the comments here seem to be under the presumption this is a common way to use Apple devices in 2024. I can assure you it is not. If this ever comes they have far bigger fires to put out right now.
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All apologies. It works on the iPhone and iPad and even still on old iPods. They can offer the feature easily.
While we are all speculating on reasons. Evil. For our pleasure. Or anything else may also be reasonable speculation, I think it's important to consider a pause.
We don't know if this feature is missing because we are just in early versions and they haven't finished it yet. Or if they do plan on not offering it. And if they do plan on not offering yet, that they may be open to an outcry for it, which could change their mind.
I don't think the cost of iCloud is the issue for anybody. The cost of the Vision Pro is the issue. The argument is that a PRO user, paying this much for a device, should be able to manage their own data without using the cloud if they want to.
I am an iCloud user and think it's great, btw.
I honestly think it’s probably a “it’s an edge case so it’s fine if it doesn’t make 1.0” or “there’s a weird bug so we’re not including it yet” issue. I’d be shocked if we don’t get there eventually, just obviously have no idea how long you’ll be waiting.
I recommend filing feedbacks for this shortcoming, along with the music app and TV app import shortcomings. It’s unexpected to not be able to get media onto a computer designed for media that’s this expensive.
While airdrop is a means of getting things into the files or photos app, they lack the media playback functions of music and TV(theatre mode).
While airdrop is a means of getting things into the files or photos app, they lack the media playback functions of music and TV(theatre mode).