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one does not simply be that ignorant...

first of all you are talking as if the dev team are working on an unlock for the 4S and so far they only tweeted one time that something like promising for a possible unlock 3 months ago, they sell yeah preserve your baseband, they do it all the time... and they have never confirmed that they are actually caring for an unlock...or that are actually trying to make one...

I bet you bought a Verizon phone with a bad ESN...
 
yup! the box came wrapped as if it were fresh off the shelf, I knew that the jailbreak and the unlock and the hactivation are all different, but i figured that if all I can do is have a nicer ipod touch, what the heck. I don't know if the whatever numbers are bad, but i took it to a verizon store and after the sales lady pitched me to death about a plan, i was able to stick a store sim in it and now it's been activated (at least past the welcome screens) it now says invalid sim, but im at the point where I can jailbreak it! let's see what happens...

You're not a very good liar:D
 
wow! i had you going? that's hilarious! I've got nothing to lie about, I stuck a sim card in my Verizon iPhone 4S from the Verizon Store, then was able to get past the welcome screen where you select language, enable location blah, blah, blah. once the phone was activated (store's account) I removed sim, handed back to the nice lady, and now once I get back home i'm going to try to jailbreak it and play with my fancy ipod touch/paperweight. seriously, i'm not trying to have any frienemies here. just was wondering on the development of a hacktivation, but thanks to the kind folks at VZW, I don't need to wait on that. I still am looking for a sim unlock (whenever that becomes available) but i did get past the activation screen. So, now i think i can JB it. I'll post my results. Again, Wow! you guys can be terrible sometimes! anyway, be easy!

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@labman:

"Verizon or CDMA networks don't use sims . This is sounding more and more fishey. I smell bs well thread starter said he's happy."

you serious? as many times as i have seen your name on here you don't know that the Verizon iPhone 4S have a sim? naaah, ya'll just ***** with me, right? all this animosity, ok, where's the cameras? i must be getting punk'd
 
You guys realize that Verizon 4S phones use a micro-sim for GSM roaming right? It's part of Apple touting the 4S as a world phone, so it is certainly possible that inserting a roaming sim activated the device...

Poor guy jumped into a river full of piranhas, and he might not even be lying...
 
It's documented the verizon 4s already includes a sim. Why does the OP need another unless he's lying?
Some critical thinking abilities would be good.* The ability to navigate and use google wouldn't hurt either. :rolleyes:

*You get an exemption from a requirement of critical thinking if you went to school in the south or are religious. It seems both discourage critical thought.:D
You guys realize that Verizon 4S phones use a micro-sim for GSM roaming right? It's part of Apple touting the 4S as a world phone, so it is certainly possible that inserting a roaming sim activated the device...

Poor guy jumped into a river full of piranhas, and he might not even be lying...
 
can anyone offer advice/opinion on this: I bought an iPhone 4S off of craigslist. I can't get past the activation screens to JB it. it's verizon and i'd like to use t-mobile. I've posted before but i'm curious if there has been any updates?

OP, the odds that you bought a fully functional iPhone 4S are very slim. First I hope you know that there are shrink machines that can re-wrap a box to make it look like it was never opened, right?

Second, a Verizon iPhone comes with a SIM card. If this is in fact a Verizon phone it should have come with a SIM card. If it didn't it might be one of thos replacement phones that Apple uses to replace customer's phones. Those phones don't come with SIM cards.

Also just because you were able to get to the home screen because the lady at the Verizon store stuck a SIM in it, means nothing. How do I know this? Read on.

I have a Sprint iPhone. Back in November I had to get 2 replacements. One was a brand new retail box replacement and one was a replacement phone from Apple.

In one of those cases the phone and the provisioning got mixed up as well as the serial number. Meaning, I can still activate a phone but as soon as I restore the phone it will not activate. I get an error message that says "Invalid SIM. Only use authorized SIM cards...". However, the interesting thing is that even though this is a Sprint phone I can put an AT&T SIM card in it and it will allow me to get past the welcome screens and get to the home screen. But there is no way at this point to activate this phone.

I spent 8 hours yesterday at the Apple store with the genius guys, managers and upper level tech support trying to figure this out.

They went through 7 replacement iPhones trying to activate for me. The oddest problem is this. Once they attempted and failed to activate a phone it became a brick. No amount of restoring or using new SIM cards made any difference. They actually went through their entire stock of white 32GB replacement iPhones.

In the end the only solution they were able to come up with is to give me a brand new retail boxed phone and add it to my account as a new phone. This is no mean feat. Sprint has to be in the loop so that my contract date doesn't get reset.

They had to order this phone from Sprint corp and I'll get it by tomorrow but in the meantime I have an iPhone here I can use on wifi. I jailbroke it and I'm trying things from Cydia I would never try on my working phone. So even though it may look like you have a fully functional phone, the bad news is that most probably this is as much use as you'll get out of it.

I suspect that the phone you got will never be able to be activated with Verizon, regardless of carrier lock or unlock. There is a slight chance that you might be able to use it on AT&T but I wouldn't hold my breath.

The fact that you got an "Invalid SIM" error message tells me there was an issue with this phone and that you'll probably never be able to activate it. Dude you had to question the cheap price, right? I mean $175 for a 4S when they are selling for upwards of $450. Come on man you had to know something was probably going on with this thing.

Anyway, good luck and I hope you report back either way this goes for you.

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You guys realize that Verizon 4S phones use a micro-sim for GSM roaming right? It's part of Apple touting the 4S as a world phone, so it is certainly possible that inserting a roaming sim activated the device...

Poor guy jumped into a river full of piranhas, and he might not even be lying...

It doesn't activate it, it only allows you to get to the home screen.

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Verizon or CDMA networks don't use sims . This is sounding more and more fishey. I smell bs well thread starter said he's happy.

They don't use SIM cards but the way the phone was designed (I suspect from VZ and Sprint request) there has to be a matching SIM in the iPhone in order to be able to activate it. Yes they have the ability to get around it but if you try to activate a Sprint or Verizon iPhone without a SIM card, the activation will fail.
 
@RocknBlogger

Yeah, i realize i chose the wrong terminology. You're right, it got me to the home screen. It is not activated, but once i got to the home screen i figured i'd be able to jailbreak it.

As far as the price, the ad was for $200 (which is what he said he paid for it) but since my drive was about 20 miles, i talked him down to $175.

So I saw it as a way to have a iPhone 4S and at the least play with it, until someone comes out with an unlock. That's all, no more, no less.

The reason i posted was to ask if this community was aware of any progress towards a Hacktivation, while i scout the web for any unlock developments.

As far as the Verizon sim, it indeed came with one. When I tried to get to the home screen (before Absinthe) I couldn't (because i'm not a VZW customer) so I had found a video on youtube where the guy said he could unlock the iPhone using this quirky sim swap, so I tried it (needless to say, useless) where I tried to use my T-Mobile sim. My T-mobile sim has been in the phone ever since. I did go to a store and was able to get to my home screen and did pay $175.

I'm sorry you guys didn't get one as inexpensively as i did, maybe you guys would've been kinder. Instead of acting like I support Bin Laden over this, sheesh! BTW... What's an OP?
 
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I see stuff like that every once in a while on CL. Someone buys an iPhone from att for 225 and then decides they dont want it and sells it for 200 not knowing that the actual price is 500, some people don't realize they are buying at a subsidized price.
 
OP Original Poster or TS Thread Starter! well you got a good deal hopefully there will be a unlock soon but nobody knows when. Also you never said if you are 5.0 or 5.0.1 if you are 5.0.1 you will be waiting allot longer if ever for a unlock.. enjoy! personally I would have just bought it from the carrier of choice at the same subsidized price at least it be usable now.
 
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