'It's Showtime': September 12th, 2006

[TheKrillr]

Yes I have..The only difference is I'm including the recording part.

Well, one option would be for the video airTunes, to have an input + hardware Mpeg-2 encoding and stream it back to your computer onto your hard drive.

This would be awesome, especially for rich people who can buy an xserve with xsan to store all their stuff on ;-) One tiny box in the living room, one huge fileserver in a backroom.

But yes, you'd probably need to have Front Row or some such on the front end, on the video airTunes.

 

[Peace]

What if you downloaded the movie to your Macbook Pro and went on a business trip? Or you only own a laptop?

HOW are the members of your family going to watch the movie?

 

[MattyMac]

My nano is already on eBay awaiting a nice metal clad 8GB version, I hope they do an andonised black one though to match my other gadgets.

nice....I'm sure it will be a good time to pick up an older generation on ebay...once they are released that is. This week is the sellers market however.

 

[milo]

Yes I did milo.And it's a fine rendition

Only thing is one still has to connect some kind of A/V cables to the TV..

Think about that concept.

I'll think about it. I think it's covered by "video to tv via dvi>hdmi cable for hdtv or analogue connection for sdtv". Which you obviously missed?

Try looking at the pic again. And read the stuff. All of it.

 

[milo]

What if you downloaded the movie to your Macbook Pro and went on a business trip? Or you only own a laptop?

HOW are the members of your family going to watch the movie?

Just copy it to the computer at home. How are the members of your family going to use a computer if you take the only one with you?

 

[iMeowbot]

If this is a product called showtime, that could be a Bad Thing (tm). A media application that has the same name as the movie channel? Sounds like grounds for a trademark lawsuit to me. Mighty Mouse is a little harder to cause consumer confusion: one's an computer mouse, the other is a cartoon character. But a movie software application and a movie channel? hmmmmm....

I don't think there will be anything with that name.

Apple did just very recently file for a new iMovie trade mark in Europe, through Italy. They already had the name registered in 2000/2001. This new application is from 22 August, and no real details are currently published.

 

[Peace]

I'll think about it. I think it's covered by "video to tv via dvi>hdmi cable for hdtv or analogue connection for sdtv". Which you obviously missed?

Try looking at the pic again. And read the stuff. All of it.

Read my previous post

 

[Yvan256]

OK hear me out on this one - WHAT IF Apple, in all its wisdom and foresight, avoids the format war (Blu-ray vs HD-DVD) altogether by NOT using a physical format? [...] they do something GENIUS like sell DOWNLOADABLE HD movies on their iTunes store and release a stream-to-TV device!

That's been my point of view since day one. Some kind of hardware to connect between your computer(s) and your television and you get your movies from the iTMS (iTunes Media Store).

The only thing that I'd like to see (and I'm sure I won't) is rentals. I wouldn't mind downloading 480p movies for rentals, either. It lowers the bandwidth costs, the download time, etc.

Will the "box" be an Airport Xpress (or something) or a special version of Mac mini (super-low cost, no hard drive, no optical drive, 512MB soldered on-board, not upgradable).

 

[Peace]

Just copy it to the computer at home. How are the members of your family going to use a computer if you take the only one with you?

By using the BOX with the HARD DRIVE next to the TV!!

Damn..

Lets just agree to disagree and see what happens next Tuesday ok ?

 

[milo]

Read my previous post

I did. It was about connecting AV cables to the TV. Which was covered in the pic.

Please, for the love of God, start making some sense.

By using the BOX with the HARD DRIVE next to the TV!!

They're going to use a stripped down box connected to a TELEVISION to do things like send email and surf the web??? By making that box a full fledged computer, you just tripled the price at least. What a horrible idea. If you're going to spend the money on a computer, why not make it useful as a computer instead of wasting money by using it only to play back TV programs? And with your proposal, how does someone watch TV while someone else is surfing the web?

 

[jasper77]

By using the BOX with the HARD DRIVE next to the TV!!

Damn..

Lets just agree to disagree and see what happens next Tuesday ok ?

why don't you just buy a Mac Mini and put it next to your tv? that will do everything you need, i guess

 

[TheKrillr]

I don't think there will be anything with that name.

Apple did just very recently file for a new iMovie trade mark in Europe, through Italy. They already had the name registered in 2000/2001. This new application is from 22 August, and no real details are currently published.

How does trademarking work in Europe? Here in the US you trademark something, and you don't have to specify what industry its in, or what the trademark is used for. in Europe do you have to register it for each unique industry? Otherwise, why would they be reapplying if they already have it?

 

[TheKrillr]

It just occurred to me, that in Leopard iChat has a thing called Remote Desktop Express. This could easily be used in the new device to send Front Row to the TV!

Apple, I'm sure is thinking ahead. Or they plan on releasing the new iChat on the 12th.

 

[iMeowbot]

How does trademarking work in Europe? Here in the use you trademark something, and you don't have to specify what industry its in, or what the trademark is used for.

In the Us, if you want a registered mark, you do have to specify the use. That's why Apple can have a trademark for Mac, and MAC cosmetics can too, and McDonalds can have their Big Macs and so on.

You will find in just the USPTO records that the Apple logo is registered multiple times for different uses, and they seem to add one or two each year.

There is a whole separate issue with "famous" marks that can make the rights more expansive, but that is more the exception than the rule.

in Europe do you have to register it for each unique industry? Otherwise, why would they be reapplying if they already have it?

It's not just for an industry but for particular classes of products and services. In both the US and Europe there is a common classification system for this stuff (Nice Union, yet another WIPO treaty).

 

[nxent]

My nano is already on eBay awaiting a nice metal clad 8GB version, I hope they do an andonised black one though to match my other gadgets.

already on ebay? nice. now you don't have to worry too much about it depreciating in value with apple's new product. i've been holding out on a new ipod to see what devilry they come up with this time. i take it the movies on itunes will be 'download to own'?

 

[OdduWon]

it seems like the reason this apple is broadcasting to the event is so that they can show how their new ichat streaming dot mac movie/video chat ipod pack works .

 

[Creibold]

Apple will release new iPods AND a movie store on the same day that nintendo releases the black DS lite for the states?

Go-go gadget debit card.

 

[boncellis]

As far as the streaming video possibilities go, I think it would be cool for Apple to include the ability to "project" the entire desktop onto a remote screen, like a TV or projector. The tech is already there, and I think that kind of functionality would be that much cooler and more practical than simply streaming audio/video content. I would love to use my PB's lid-closed mode wirelessly with the TV.

 

[brepublican]

it seems like the reason this apple is broadcasting to the event is so that they can show how their new ichat streaming dot mac movie/video chat ipod pack works .

I like that line of thought Prolly spot on too. SJ will announce about half way throught that they've actually been streaming over an Airport Express AV the entire time...



"It wasnt a Jackal the first time you said, so why the hell would it be a Jackal the next 10 times?? Argh!"

 

[pna]

Yeah... yeah... Movies for the American audience...

...I don't even get TV shows...

Yes, but you get to live in Norway, and in Bergen no less. I'll be in Bergen next week, and will be happy to bring you some TV shows.

 

[gugy]

I think this is totally feasible, but one question that many of you haven't addressed is: "Do you see this interaction and interface happening for the Windows users?"

I know we're all Apple fans here, but in order for the iTunes Movie Store to be successful, it will have to include "them."

w00master

very true, unfortunately those bastards dictate what will be successful.

another thing is make sure any video transmitted wirelessly will work perfect.
I had my airport xpress 30 feet from my computer hooked up to my stereo and the signal would drop all the time. This to work it needs to work flawlessly, if not forget it. I rather have the media center hooked up on my stereo and TV without the wireless crap.

 

[WildPalms]

Why isn't Mr. Incredible on that logo? Am I the only one who thinks he should be?

Who?

 

[TheManOfSilver]

Who?

Try visiting www.pixar.com

 

[Yvan256]

Apple will release new iPods AND a movie store on the same day that nintendo releases the black DS lite for the states?

Go-go gadget debit card.

Eh, funniest post I've read in a long time. Thanks.

 

[boncellis]

There's no point in having a hard drive, why would you even want it if you can stream in real time from your computer? And why make it a "mini" size box when it can just be something tiny enough to hold AV outputs?

This is what I had anticipated a while back, but Apple went and invested in the Mini as the quasi-set-top-box. I'm not saying it's not possible, but I wonder if they would change horses mid stream, as it were. I think the video AE would be cool, but it's not quite mainstream enough for regular folk. The Mini, on the other hand, would be sufficiently mainstream if Apple cut the price a little bit and made Front Row a little more robust (and included a DVI to HDMI cable ).

Of course, I can see both sides of the argument.