Feel the same way. Got bored with my IP4. Went and got an S3. Nice device, but not yet there. Back to IP5, but I'm going to keep watching android...and give it another shot with the next round of devices.
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Where did I say you shouldn't care? I am voicing my opinion. Me thinks you been waiting around all day so you can use you nice little rant. Job well done.
Again, In my opinion, I found Widgets to be completely useless when I used an Android device. Obviously others disagree. In addition, it appears having an opinion different to that of Master Tick is discouraged here.
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and your assuming you can fit all your widgets on one screen. If not, WHATS THE DIFFERENCE?
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oh well since my opinion differs from yours, I guess I am wrong. Discussion over.
Not sure how your opinion represents the majority of iPhone users but how would having the option of being able to do these things affect you or those who choose not to use them.
No, nor did I say Apple shouldn't. But, last I checked we are allowed to express our opinions here. In my opinion, widgets are useless.
So everytime we discuss something here we should consider that Apple should add every little thing so every possible user can have every possible option then? If so, I vote for built in bottle opener. After all, shouldn't apple atleast give us the option?
Right, but I could have three different application widgets on my home screen. For you to see the same information or perform the same functions, you would need to launch three different apps.
I like using my initial home screen to store all of my most common tasks, so I have the following: -
- Shortcuts to my favourite contacts (I just tap on them and it opens their contact pages, where I can then choose to email/message/call/etc).
- Any.DO todo list app. This shows me what's on my agenda and lets me add to it or clear completed tasks.
- Bluetooth shortcut that enables bluetooth on my phone and opens up the list of available devices.
Maybe most of the widgets I was using took up most of the screen and I found myself needing to switch screens to view multiple widgets (which defeats any time savings).
I know what your saying, but I found the information displayed via widgets to be far more unsatisfactory than just opening the app. Which is what I found myself doing after a few days of use.
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I have a mixed opinion of iOS 6 as well. While there are many new feature that I appreciate, such as new Maps, Shared Photo Stream, Reply with Message in Phone, Passbooks, faster Safari with iCloud syncing, App Store (especially not having to enter password to update apps), and VIP Inbox in Mail (as well as ability to rearrange accounts), there are 3 glaring major omissions (not widgets):
- Springboard: Managing apps remains as difficult as ever. I would love automatic organization based on usage frequency, favorite tagging, and App Store category. And multitasking tray that does not offer option to show only active apps (yes, I understand we are not supposed to care whether app is running or not, but in practice, it is very useful to see only active apps).
- Lock Screen: No, I am not talking about custom unlock pattern or face recognition. At the very least, the lock screen should let you specify the app for a coveted shortcut spot next to "slide to unlock" widget.
- Notification Center: Aside from Twitter and Facebook widgets, Notification Center remains largely unchanged. A tiny, unusable "X" button for clearing notifications is unchanged as well as controversial linen background.
I see what you're saying and I agree that that is definitely the case with some widgets.
The widgets I tend to use are ones that save me time rather than flashy looking ones. I used to have WiFi/Bluetooth/GPS toggles on my home screen when I had a HTC Desire, but the Samsung phones have those shortcut toggles in the notification bar so there's no need to put them on my home screen.
I'm sure people can agree that some shortcuts are very useful though. Contact widgets, settings toggle widgets, widgets that take you to a certain part of the settings, etc.
Android even lets you make a shortcut out of "activities" which let's you jump to a specific screen of an app. For example, you can create a shortcut to the email compose screen, or a shortcut to the friend list in Facebook, etc.
I'm not holding out a lot of hope that Apple will ever add support for widgets though, they don't want to do anything to risk the simplicity of iOS.
Why does it have to be one way or the other?
People who don't want this functionality should be able to turn if off and not use it.
Settings > Notification Center > Toggle Options > OFF
Seriously though, adding toggle switches for WiFi & etc. would be really nice in the notification center.
There are a ton of other things that wouldn't hurt performance or risk simplicity that they could make better and quicker to get to. Some people don't mind having to use an app to do something, well I personally do for a task so small. It is just one more thing i have to double click home and end the task on after I am done.
Why not be able to horizontal scroll on the taskbar, or whatever you call it, so more than 4 apps can be on it.
It is really dumb to not want a feature because on another phone you find it useless. This is apple. If they implement it, you know it will be done right, and who knows, if they do it right you may find it useful after all although you found androids implementation useless. If not the option is still there for others that want it.
People who don't want this functionality should be able to turn if off and not use it.
Settings > Notification Center > Toggle Options > OFF
Seriously though, adding toggle switches for WiFi & etc. would be really nice in the notification center.
There are a ton of other things that wouldn't hurt performance or risk simplicity that they could make better and quicker to get to. Some people don't mind having to use an app to do something, well I personally do for a task so small. It is just one more thing i have to double click home and end the task on after I am done.
Why not be able to horizontal scroll on the taskbar, or whatever you call it, so more than 4 apps can be on it.
It is really dumb to not want a feature because on another phone you find it useless. This is apple. If they implement it, you know it will be done right, and who knows, if they do it right you may find it useful after all although you found androids implementation useless. If not the option is still there for others that want it.
It doesn't. It's a choice.
I highlighted the problem in bold.
You have to draw the line somewhere. Apple simply chooses to draw the line at a different place than you.
Judging my Apple's own website, they could care less about it as well.
http://www.apple.com/iphone/ios/
It seems more of, "sigh...we got to put out another one".
That or all their resources went into finalizing their Maps app.
I'm not sure what Photostream Sharing is about. How is this different from selecting the photos I want to share with friends and texting the pic?
Facebook. Ok, yes, there needs to be a better way to share to Facebook. Hopefully this does the job.
Maps? This better work and be just as good as Google maps. I hope Google's app for Maps is coming soon, because I can't rely an a brand new map app that may or may not get the same support Google gives their offering.
I'm not sure what the point of Passbook is. I'll look at it more once a wallet NFC feature is available. I guess I need to carry more loyalty cards...
Yep, it's pretty obvious all of their resources went to Maps this year.
http://www.apple.com/iphone/ios/
It seems more of, "sigh...we got to put out another one".
That or all their resources went into finalizing their Maps app.
I'm not sure what Photostream Sharing is about. How is this different from selecting the photos I want to share with friends and texting the pic?
Facebook. Ok, yes, there needs to be a better way to share to Facebook. Hopefully this does the job.
Maps? This better work and be just as good as Google maps. I hope Google's app for Maps is coming soon, because I can't rely an a brand new map app that may or may not get the same support Google gives their offering.
I'm not sure what the point of Passbook is. I'll look at it more once a wallet NFC feature is available. I guess I need to carry more loyalty cards...
Yep, it's pretty obvious all of their resources went to Maps this year.
That's kind of strange to come to that conclusion when you admit to not understanding 2 of the 4 features that you brought up.
Shared Photo Streams allow you to share photos to the web as well as directly to other people's Macs and iOS devices. It also supports commenting.
No need to wait for NFC to use Passbook. It can be used with existing scanners at most retailers through barcodes or QR codes. Most of the utility will come through third-party developer support.
And don't forget the resources that went into adding support for the iPhone 5 display, as well as updating every single Apple app to support it.
It's amusing how Apple fan boys are so rabid in their defense of what Apple has chosen to omit (and I say this as an iPhone, iPad, iMac and MBA owner). This is like the early days when the iPhone did not have cut and paste. The rationalization on why it was wasn't needed was pretty funny, only to have Apple add it later. And Apple has added a camera launcher to the lock screen so it's not like even they think all widgets are useless. I expect there will be more added, though in typical Apple fashion it will be at their own leisurely pace and then touted as something magical when they finally get around to adding them.
Who is rabid? Besides your stereotypes, I mean. Seems to be a pretty calm discussion for a MacRumors thread.
I think it's amusing that you choose to insult people instead of participating in the discussion. Some people agree with Apple's design philosophy. Some people don't.
It's also amusing that you brought up copy/paste as your example. Turns out that despite all the rationalization about how Apple should have had it sooner, they ended up implementing it more than a year before Android finished their implementation.
we dont even necessarily need "widgets" all we need is more things we can add to the notification center. the notification center has so much potential but is utterly useless now and looks even more pathetic on the big iPad screen with nothing to show cuz there isnt even a freakin weather app.
all we need is something like this, to turn off wifi/bluetooth/freakin rotation lock etc.
can't buy an iPhone 5 before there's a jailbreak, just too many things missing on the default OS starting with how many apps i can put in one folder, i rly dont need 5 folders called "games" if i could just put them all in one. should be the most obvs thing to apple imo
all we need is something like this, to turn off wifi/bluetooth/freakin rotation lock etc.
can't buy an iPhone 5 before there's a jailbreak, just too many things missing on the default OS starting with how many apps i can put in one folder, i rly dont need 5 folders called "games" if i could just put them all in one. should be the most obvs thing to apple imo
You highlighted the problem but not in the way you thought you did. The problem isn't that there are a ton of things that can be tweaked, the problem is barely any of them have been tweaked.
Seriously it is annoying to have to go to settings, then click wifi, then turn it off or on, then exit settings, then kill the app.
I do this Multiple times, 5 days a week at least. I can guarantee you plenty more people do as well.
Why not make the notification center useful and add some toggles (one unobtrusive example). Then all it would take is a swipe and button press. May not seem like a big deal but add this functionality to Bluetooth, airplane most and maybe brightness or something and it becomes a lot less annoying.
I really can't understand why anyone wouldn't want apple to continually enhance the iOS experience even if not exactly the way described here.
Just like adding camera directly from lock screen, it's a small addition but VERY useful.
If Apple ever implements widgets, everyone against them will change their mind and proclaim that Apple has done it again. I love the aesthetic design of the iPhone 5. It's one of the most beautiful works of technology I've ever seen. But I can't get down with ios on the iPhone. I love my iPad, though, so I'm not completely anti iOS. After selling my iPhone 4 to make the jump back to android, I told myself it'd be for the foreseeable future. I just personally feel that, as far as phones go, other options from Android and Windows Phone are worth more consideration.
As far as widgets and home screens go, my Galaxy Nexus home screen has my calendar widget, my gmail, music, Wikipedia, twitter, and a toggle widget. It's generally how my screen has always been on android, which is why I never felt as comfortable on my iPhone 4. It's a glorified app launcher, and that's how apple plans on keeping it. The only thing that updates on the home screen is the date. I hardly ever venture into my sea of apps to select gmail, because a swipe to the right shows me an at a glance view of my most recent mail. Many widgets may not be the most useful, but many people depend on them rather than going directly into the app.
As far as widgets and home screens go, my Galaxy Nexus home screen has my calendar widget, my gmail, music, Wikipedia, twitter, and a toggle widget. It's generally how my screen has always been on android, which is why I never felt as comfortable on my iPhone 4. It's a glorified app launcher, and that's how apple plans on keeping it. The only thing that updates on the home screen is the date. I hardly ever venture into my sea of apps to select gmail, because a swipe to the right shows me an at a glance view of my most recent mail. Many widgets may not be the most useful, but many people depend on them rather than going directly into the app.
A nice turn of phrase. However, you just ignored my point to make your own.
Why would you kill the app?
You are missing the distinction between understanding why Apple hasn't implemented the feature and being completely against a feature ever appearing.
Kind of like this guy that is fighting against strawmen:
Personally, I don't care about widgets as they are implemented on Android. To me, the small amount of time that they save is offset by the overly compromised UI. It's a question of tradeoffs.
If Apple manages to come up with a UI for specific widgets that works for me, of course I'd be happy. There is nothing hypocritical about it. It's already happened! I use the weather widget in the notification center every day.
As far as your specific example of a wifi toggle, I'd rather Apple deals with the problems that cause you to have to toggle the wifi multiple times a week, rather than implementing a toggle that I have to deal with. Personally, I've only toggled wifi or bluetooth once or twice a year.
I vote they just leave everything the same because apple is the best and it's already as good as it is going to get. There is no room for improvement, as any additions or changes would just be nuisances.
Maybe I am a bit bord with it. 5 years of rows of apps can do that to you.
Put them in folders. I like to keep the first page clear and get good background image for my phone. Customized enough for me
Sorry I didn't include the " /s"
I was being sarcastic and figured whoever read that probably had read the previous posts I made in this thread.
And I honestly never planned on trying to or have any desire to work for Apple.
Beg to differ I have a flashlight widget on my second screen. It's so handy to quickly push it boom flashlight comes on. Instead of having to open the app drawer, scroll to the app, open it and then hit the on button. And as you can appreciate usually when you need a flash light its in a hurry.
On my lock screen I have widgets installed for weather one press of a button and I see it without unlocking. This is another place widgets shine is on the look screen.
Not a widget but a custom lock screen which allows me to see all missed calls / sms and how they are from with the ability to reply directly from unlock screen. Emails preview / read, upcoming calendar appointments and if i wanted to RSS feeds, facebook and twitter updates. Sorry but there is no way you can do this on an iPhone even with Jailbreak. One of the many ways Android is much more intuitive than iOS
Also are they ever going to fix the issue where missed calls/ email etc notifications don't show in the status bar if you choose to ignore the notification for a later time?