I'm probably missing something here, but surely users have the option of not updating their software to the new, incompatible version?
I can confirm iOS 6 can still be synced via the last version of iTunes 10.6.
I just tested with my iPhone 4 that's updated to iOS 6 GM.
Complaining that your 7+ year old, VERY unsupported PPC Mac can't sync with software that isn't even released yet? Seriously?
Some people need to re-evaluate their expectations for their computers.
No, they're complaining that hardware they purchased 2 months ago that was supported on their mac - age is irrelevant in this instance - may not be supported anymore.
In essence, Apple is possibly pulling product support 2 months after the OP bought it.
Having said that, Apple still supports Windows XP, which is a far older OS than the PPC architecture.
So you're complaining about other peoples PowerPC issues in a PowerPC specific sub forum?
Why? Does it add any value?
But the SOFTWARE of the device now no longer supports the old hardware. New software requires new hardware. That's the facts of the technology-filled world we live in. Either use old software with old hardware, or suck it up and get new hardware to match the new software.
Sorry to sound like a jackass but this whole complaining that old, very out of warranty, and even more so very much out of support, isn't being supported anymore....WONDER WHY.
(PS Apple doesn't really support XP anymore. If you have a preexisting XP Boot Camp install you can continue to use it, but all new ones are officially Vista/7.)
It's not an issue. It's a fact. Some people need to face them.
So you're arguing that it's acceptable for Apple to issue a SOFTWARE update that breaks a main feature of the hardware, after 2 months?
New software does not require new hardware. It may for some things like NFC, but for sync it does not.
So you're arguing that it's acceptable for Apple to issue a SOFTWARE update that breaks a main feature of the hardware, after 2 months?
New software does not require new hardware. It may for some things like NFC, but for sync it does not.
Your totally right, a quad-core top of the range PowerMac can't run iTunes
. iTunes is just to powerful to run on a machine like that!
It is 100% acceptable to cut off all support for hardware that is not only on a 100% dead platform, but one that has been out of full warranty/technical support for years.
The number of cores has nothing to do with a platform still being supported or not. The platform is dead. Support hasn't existed for years. It's no longer gonna happen. Stop trying to hold onto something that is keeping the rest of the world back.
I'm simply stating the facts of the situation here. The thread started off as a rant about how awful and horrible it is that Apple is dropping support for PPC computers, when in fact, support has long been dead. I'm not allowed to respond to a rant? Really? Sounds like someone just likes to rant with no one to respond or listen![]()
I'll never understand how people can fight over a computing platform
If it ain't broke don't fix it
Quit trolling and go find someplace else to "respond to rants" You're not helping the cause and clearly have nothing useful to contribute to the PowerPC forum.It is 100% acceptable to cut off all support for hardware that is not only on a 100% dead platform, but one that has been out of full warranty/technical support for years.
The number of cores has nothing to do with a platform still being supported or not. The platform is dead. Support hasn't existed for years. It's no longer gonna happen. Stop trying to hold onto something that is keeping the rest of the world back.
I'm simply stating the facts of the situation here. The thread started off as a rant about how awful and horrible it is that Apple is dropping support for PPC computers, when in fact, support has long been dead. I'm not allowed to respond to a rant? Really? Sounds like someone just likes to rant with no one to respond or listen![]()
Quit trolling and go find someplace else to "respond to rants" You're not helping the cause and clearly have nothing useful to contribute to the PowerPC forum.
Complaining that your 7+ year old, VERY unsupported PPC Mac can't sync with software that isn't even released yet? Seriously?
Some people need to re-evaluate their expectations for their computers.
It is 100% acceptable to cut off all support for hardware that is not only on a 100% dead platform, but one that has been out of full warranty/technical support for years.
The number of cores has nothing to do with a platform still being supported or not. The platform is dead. Support hasn't existed for years. It's no longer gonna happen. Stop trying to hold onto something that is keeping the rest of the world back.
I'm simply stating the facts of the situation here. The thread started off as a rant about how awful and horrible it is that Apple is dropping support for PPC computers, when in fact, support has long been dead. I'm not allowed to respond to a rant? Really? Sounds like someone just likes to rant with no one to respond or listen![]()
I hope you're joking, or a troll. The Power PC platform is alive. Look at the xbox 360, Play Station 3 and Nintendo Wii, those game consoles use Power PC processors. I really hope you are a troll. haha
FYI an iBook G4 is more powerful than a netbook.
Um. The PPC platform in consoles is very different than in the home computer world.
360: While yes a PowerPC processor, it doesn't work like a normal processor. It uses in-order execution, where as a CPU used in a home computer uses out-of-order execution. Radically different platform.
PS3: Cell, while part of the POWER family, shares nothing with the PowerPC platform. But good try!
Wii: Uses the POWER platform, not PowerPC. Is also a fully custom design by Nintendo that shares nothing with what G3/G4/G5 would have used.
We are talking about home computers here. And as much as I hate to say it, but the PowerPC platform is very much a dead platform in terms of development. It was too inefficient, slow, and needlessly complex to continue using as a platform. While yes advances were being made, they were not only not good enough, but too late. Intel had beaten them, and by a lot. x86-64 is a MUCH easier, more commonly used, less expensive, simpler platform to use.
You people act like I've never used a PPC computer before or don't own one. I still have a Dual Processor 2.0GHZ G5, it still gets used today, but I know that it's never going to be comparable with new software like my Macbook Pro is. It's simply too old, slow, and uncommon for new software to be coded for it. I guess my expectations of technology aren't as insane as most :\
Yeah... It is sad that my 2004 Windows 7 1.0 Ghz Celeron Desktop can run every software available since 2000 to 2012. Yeah it is too old, slow and uncommon. Even your Macbook is faster. Not bad for an old celeron desktop computer.
Do more research, stay away from Wikipedia. The Cell Processor is controlled by a PPC. Xbox 360 has a 3 core PowerPC processor. The Wii has a 700 Mhz PowerPC. In the end, they decided not to use Intel, they went with PowerPC for one reason: More Power.
And you're acting like none of us have an Intel system.. I would bet nearly every poster in this section has at least one Intel based Mac, but for one reason or another still have a functioning & quite capable PowerPC Mac that they still want to use. Apple made it very clear in 2006 that creating a Universal Binary application was not a daunting task and encouraged its developers to write software for BOTH processor types. We're allowed to gripe a little when something as simple as email, music, and web browsing are tasks that some VERY capable hardware can do is becoming increasingly difficult. Its not so much that using the internet on a PowerPC cannot be done, its that its become less secure. We can still watch video, but simple software solutions and internet plugins are no longer developed. I've got some great PowerPC hardware that I'm not about to trash because its more than powerful enough for what I do. I don't need an octo-core 32GB of RAM system. I sure as hell don't need a $1200 iMac when I've got a great 23" Cinema Display and iSight camera. I've got a plenty of PowerBooks and an older MacBook Pro, so I have no desire to drop $1500 on another one. My point is, many of us are more accustomed to a time when Apple gave its buyers some product life. Late G3 and early G4 systems could run anything from Mac OS 8.5 clear up to 10.4 or better. I got software & security updates for a very long time on those machines. G5 and even early Core Duo Intel buyers really got the shaft from Apple and software makers. There is no good reason why software like Safari, iTunes, and Flash Player couldn't retain PowerPC support. I'm not asking for CS6, Office, or Final Cut X. Most of us just want the basics, because we're just like most home users out there that still cling to their Pentium 4 based XP boxes. We just want to be able to continue using the hardware we invested A LOT of money in while it still functions perfectly good.]
You people act like I've never used a PPC computer before or don't own one. I still have a Dual Processor 2.0GHZ G5, it still gets used today, but I know that it's never going to be comparable with new software like my Macbook Pro is. It's simply too old, slow, and uncommon for new software to be coded for it. I guess my expectations of technology aren't as insane as most :\
Complaining that your 7+ year old, VERY unsupported PPC Mac can't sync with software that isn't even released yet? Seriously?
Some people need to re-evaluate their expectations for their computers.
I've got an iPhone 5 and a G5 tower, when I get my hands on a Lightning/old converter I'll give it a spin and post what happens.Sounds like the only problem is the lightning connector if you are running 10.6.3 of iTunes on a PPC. Even this might be fixed if you use a lightning converter to the old iPhone 4s type of connector to plug into the USB port on a PPC Mac running OSX 10.5.8.