iTunes 11 to Include Improved iCloud Integration and iOS 6 Support

[twoodcc]

looking forward to what apple brings to the table

 

[a0me]

Since Snow Leopard, OS X uses something called WakeOnDemand.

That combined with an Airport Extreme or a Time Capsule provides this feature.
Bonjour broadcasts are "keep" alive my the router. When another machine tries to connect to that sleeping machine, that machine will be woken automatically.

Works with all the built in bonjour stuff (iTunes, File Sharing, Screen sharing, etc) and for your own custom stuff you can us dns-sd from the command line to add bonjour info for other apps.

More info here: http://www.macworld.com/article/1142468/wake_on_demand.html

and more: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3774?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US

Thanks a lot for these!
I've been wanting to use my Apple TV to stream content from my iTunes library without having to leave my Mac running all day when I am not home, and it looks like this WOL function could come in handy.
Now I only need a way to create a separate account without password on my Mac which will allow anyone read-only access to my iTunes library...

 

[radiogoober]

Living in NYC and commuting underground...and or being dependent on third party ISPs to get your content via a cloud is just not doing it for me. You can forget watching Netflix in the subway on that 40 min commute.

There are many times where you cannot get internet or phone isp access even walking around NYC or in Central Park. Plus being throttled with terms like "unlimited" when it's really not.... makes getting YOUR stuff really frustrating.

I don't understand..iPods years ago had 80GB to 160 GB but an iPhone 64 GB.

I want all my **** with me. I don't want to have my special 12" euro or japanese remixes reclaimed and sent to me via their iTunes version of the song. I also want MY videos on my person...when traveling or commuting..etc.

Since it's the year 2012...and i've been collecting my own music (non mainstream) AND videos since 1996 when MP3s first came out...I would think we would have an available or swappable TB flash disks around now. Why does Apple not want you to access your own ****? and locally by upping the HD space on iPads or iPhones? Not like it's a far out impossibility.

Is it really too much to ask for? HD space? I mean really?

I'm just quoting this because you have absolutely zero grasp of technology. Almost every use of terminology and every assumption you made is just completely and utterly wrong. Netflix is not "in the cloud" and it's not an ISP. Old iPods and new iPhones use completely different storage devices. You can sync your eurotrash music to your device if you convert them to mp3s without needing internet access. If you insist on carrying 12" vinyls around with you, then an electronic device will never satisfy you. Sheesh. The problems you have are because you simply don't understand what you're doing with the device. You should go by the Apple store and get free training on how to use your iPhone.

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You clearly don't understand what iCloud does. That's okay, but don't try and get in a discussion with people that do understand how it works / what it's used for.

It does make me wonder though, if Apple has done a poor job of describing iCloud, when all of these goobers don't have a clue what it even does for them.

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How do I not understand it? That's just a generic statement that holds no weight, because you're obviously wrong. I went through it point by point, and proved why it is useless.

You didn't prove anything. You simply stated that some of iCloud's services were not useful because you don't have a clue of what they actually do. Instead of Apple's all in one solution you suggested using a multitude of third party apps that in no way work as smoothly or succinctly as iCloud. No, you do not "get it."

 

[bpaluzzi]

Dropbox, don't use Gamcenter. It's a bunch of junk. I love my iPhones, but iCloud is just junk.

Look - it's getting kind of tiring discussing this with you, because as I (and several other people) have mentioned, you don't really have any idea what you're talking about. Gamecenter is not involved in this discussion at all, and Dropbox can't do what iCloud does. Dropbox is a fantastic service. I use it all the time. It doesn't do what iCloud does. And iCloud doesn't do what Dropbox does. They're complimentary, not competitive.

 

[Headrush69]

Now I only need a way to create a separate account without password on my Mac which will allow anyone read-only access to my iTunes library...

Why not just use iTunes Home Sharing feature?
I don't want "friends" on my LAN to grab my iTunes music, so I use the Home Sharing for my iMac, my iDevices, and my dad's ATV2 and let everyone else read only access to my iTunes library using the old iTunes Library sharing.

(iTunes Home Sharing and iTunes Shared Library are two different things.)

 

[BiggAW]

You didn't prove anything. You simply stated that some of iCloud's services were not useful because you don't have a clue of what they actually do. Instead of Apple's all in one solution you suggested using a multitude of third party apps that in no way work as smoothly or succinctly as iCloud. No, you do not "get it."

I read Apple's own website about the product, I don't know where else you think I should be getting info about an Apple product.

iCloud DOESN'T DO ANYTHING USEFUL. What about this don't you get? The third party apps do DIFFERENT things, which are ACTUALLY USEFUL.

Look - it's getting kind of tiring discussing this with you, because as I (and several other people) have mentioned, you don't really have any idea what you're talking about. Gamecenter is not involved in this discussion at all, and Dropbox can't do what iCloud does. Dropbox is a fantastic service. I use it all the time. It doesn't do what iCloud does. And iCloud doesn't do what Dropbox does. They're complimentary, not competitive.

Right, it doesn't do the same thing. Because iCloud doesn't do anything useful and Dropbox does. There is no M$ office for the iPhone, so even if you can sync .docx files, it's irrelevant. And it would be impossible to edit them on a 3.5" screen even then. So irrelevant again.

 

[bpaluzzi]

I read Apple's own website about the product, I don't know where else you think I should be getting info about an Apple product.

iCloud DOESN'T DO ANYTHING USEFUL. What about this don't you get? The third party apps do DIFFERENT things, which are ACTUALLY USEFUL.



Right, it doesn't do the same thing. Because iCloud doesn't do anything useful and Dropbox does. There is no M$ office for the iPhone, so even if you can sync .docx files, it's irrelevant. And it would be impossible to edit them on a 3.5" screen even then. So irrelevant again.

You're either a troll or incredibly, earth-shatteringly thick. Either way, I'm done.

 

[BaldiMac]

You're either a troll or incredibly, earth-shatteringly thick. Either way, I'm done.

Dude, he used bold, italic, and ALL CAPS! How much more proof do you need to accept the fact that a service that he does not want to use is completely useless, dumb and crappy? Does he need to underline it as well!

It doesn't work with Google (even though it actually does) and it doesn't work with Microsoft Office. What other possible uses are there? Why would you want anything to happen automatically when you can do it manually in more steps?

 

[a0me]

Why not just use iTunes Home Sharing feature?
I don't want "friends" on my LAN to grab my iTunes music, so I use the Home Sharing for my iMac, my iDevices, and my dad's ATV2 and let everyone else read only access to my iTunes library using the old iTunes Library sharing.

(iTunes Home Sharing and iTunes Shared Library are two different things.)

I'm using iTunes Home Sharing and watch/listen my media on my TV via my Apple TV (3rd gen).

The problem is that my iTunes library is on my main Mac, and it's only accessible when it's on and I'm logged in my (password protected) account.
I want to allow people at my place to use my media library without having to leave my Mac running (unattended) all day logged into my account.

 

[BaldiMac]

I'm using iTunes Home Sharing and watch/listen my media on my TV via my Apple TV (3rd gen).

The problem is that my iTunes library is on my main Mac, and it's only accessible when it's on and I'm logged in my (password protected) account.
I want to allow people at my place to use my media library without having to leave my Mac running (unattended) all day logged into my account.

You can accomplish the same thing using fast user switching and enabling wake on LAN. Just switch to the login screen leaving your account logged in and secured.

 

[Ingot]

I love Ping!

I love Wing.

wingmusic.co.nz

 

[Mr. Retrofire]

Ok here's my test. Single .wav file. iTunes encoded it to 256 AAC in 10 seconds with 54X speed. XLD (The fastest audio encoder I know) encoded it in 14 seconds with 37X speed. So iTunes actually beat it by a long shot.

iTunes had always assembly optimized encoders and decoders. 1st AltiVec, then SSE2 (all Intel-versions of Mac OS X require at least SSE2).

But then I tested multiple files and there XLD wins big time because it creates separate processes for each file where iTunes encodes it one by one. So yeah, as a batch file encoder iTunes is very slow due to doing it one by one, but as a single file encoder, it was faster than XLD. (Which surprised me because I'd at best expect it to be as fast as XLD).

A separate process? A separate thread for each file should be enough.

So Apple should indeed change the way iTunes handles multiple file encodes. Doing it one by one is very outdated.

Correct. The easy to use GCD would allow parallel encoding with very little effort. Mhh, and who advertised GCD? Right-Apple!

Like I said, Apple has several video apps that don't use all 8 cores on my machine while handbrake does.

You mean x264 does it.

It's not specific to iTunes, it's about the H.264 encoder Apple uses in all their old apps. Even the new Compressor doesn't use 8 cores like Handbrake actually.

Why would someone use Apples slow, low quality, less options H.264 encoder?

 

[BiggAW]

You're either a troll or incredibly, earth-shatteringly thick. Either way, I'm done.

Because I'm not an iSheep who will praise anything that Apple releases, even if it's completely useless?

 

[radiogoober]

You're either a troll or incredibly, earth-shatteringly thick. Either way, I'm done.

Yup. He's a complete buffoon. On one hand he's claiming iCloud sucks for everything he tried, and then on the other he says he's just reading the description off Apple's website. He needs to get his story straight. Sure, iCloud isn't perfect, but it's the only all-in-one solution on the market, and it's pretty damn awesome. And it's less than a year old.

 

[BaldiMac]

Because I'm not an iSheep who will praise anything that Apple releases, even if it's completely useless?

Exactly! Anyone that can't understand that completely unsubstantiated opinions about things you don't use become proven fact once you repeat it a few times (especially if you use bold, italics, and ALL CAPS!) has just been brainwashed into liking whatever Apple tells them to like. I've been to the brainwashing centers. There are actually sheep in the video that they make you watch!

Wait... How did you know about the sheep!! I see you have an MBP and an iPhone 4S! But you do know that iCloud is completely useless, dumb and crappy. And you did jailbreak. That's completely against the programming. Did you escape? Was your mind just able to break through to reality? Or could you be one of those few, uncontrolled Apple users that buy Apple products because they like them even though you don't want to join the cult?

 

[BiggAW]

Exactly! Anyone that can't understand that completely unsubstantiated opinions about things you don't use become proven fact once you repeat it a few times (especially if you use bold, italics, and ALL CAPS!) has just been brainwashed into liking whatever Apple tells them to like. I've been to the brainwashing centers. There are actually sheep in the video that they make you watch!

Wait... How did you know about the sheep!! I see you have an MBP and an iPhone 4S! But you do know that iCloud is completely useless, dumb and crappy. And you did jailbreak. That's completely against the programming. Did you escape? Was your mind just able to break through to reality? Or could you be one of those few, uncontrolled Apple users that buy Apple products because they like them even though you don't want to join the cult?

They are fully substantiated. I went through them one by one. I had to use caps and bold, as people were ignoring what I was saying, after having already shown, piece by piece, how iCloud is useless.

I will use the best product on the market, in the way I want. If it's Apple, it's Apple, if it's someone else, it's someone else. That's fine. But I won't use a useless me-too product just because Apple made it.

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Yup. He's a complete buffoon. On one hand he's claiming iCloud sucks for everything he tried, and then on the other he says he's just reading the description off Apple's website. He needs to get his story straight. Sure, iCloud isn't perfect, but it's the only all-in-one solution on the market, and it's pretty damn awesome. And it's less than a year old.

Those statements don't contradict each other, so what is your point?

 

[BaldiMac]

They are fully substantiated. I went through them one by one. I had to use caps and bold, as people were ignoring what I was saying, after having already shown, piece by piece, how iCloud is useless.

You don't need to convince me! I think the way that you purport to be willfully ignorant of iCloud's functions and don't appear to have the ability to consider anyone else's possible use for the services is a masterful way to win an argument!

I will use the best product on the market, in the way I want. If it's Apple, it's Apple, if it's someone else, it's someone else. That's fine. But I won't use a useless me-too product just because Apple made it.

You sure are one of the special people in this world to have managed to buy Apple products without falling victim to the brainwashing. Everyone else on this forum that has "seen the sheep" is completely under Apple's control. Anyone that can't see it your way is completely irrational!

 

[BiggAW]

You don't need to convince me! I think the way that you purport to be willfully ignorant of iCloud's functions and don't appear to have the ability to consider anyone else's possible use for the services is a masterful way to win an argument!

Then show me something useful that it does.

You sure are one of the special people in this world to have managed to buy Apple products without falling victim to the brainwashing. Everyone else on this forum that has "seen the sheep" is completely under Apple's control. Anyone that can't see it your way is completely irrational!

There are many people who aren't iSheep. But there are also many people who are.

 

[BaldiMac]

Then show me something useful that it does.

How could I possibly do that? You've already proven that the automatic syncing of contacts, calendars, reminders, documents, photos, and app data across Macs and iOS devices is completely useless to everyone! Why would anyone want their device backed up automatically every day over wifi, when they could do it locally via USB? Who could possibly forget to sync on a daily basis?

I am confused about one of your comments though. If it is useful to have Google sync your contacts and calendars across Macs and iOS devices, why is it completely useless to have iCloud sync your contacts and calendars across Macs and iOS devices? I'm sure I'm just missing the obvious! It's probably something like "It's dumb and crappy." You are much better at explaining these thing then me!

There are many people who aren't iSheep. But there are also many people who are.

I know! The iSheep are the ones that agree with Apple when you disagree with Apple.

 

[BiggAW]

How could I possibly do that? You've already proven that the automatic syncing of contacts, calendars, reminders, documents, photos, and app data across Macs and iOS devices is completely useless to everyone! Why would anyone want their device backed up automatically every day over wifi, when they could do it locally via USB? Who could possibly forget to sync on a daily basis?

I am confused about one of your comments though. If it is useful to have Google sync your contacts and calendars across Macs and iOS devices, why is it completely useless to have iCloud sync your contacts and calendars across Macs and iOS devices? I'm sure I'm just missing the obvious! It's probably something like "It's dumb and crappy." You are much better at explaining these thing then me!



I know! The iSheep are the ones that agree with Apple when you disagree with Apple.

Why would you need to backup on a daily basis? Calendar, contact, and email is all saved on Google automatically, it's not like I need a backup of my text messages for the one in many thousand chance my iPhone is going to randomly die tomorrow. I like having a backup, but there's just nothing critical on there. Maybe photos, but the good ones I upload to Dropbox or Facebook anyways, as I took them with a purpose in mind.

There is no reason to have iCloud sync calendar, contacts, and email, as it is already done through Exchange when you set up your GMail account on your iPhone. It's useful functionality, but not for iCloud to do it. That sort of thing is old news. I don't even think iCloud would work with Google, as you'd end up with some sort of weird circular sync.

Google already does those things better, there is no reason to do a piss poor job at re-inventing the wheel.

 

[BaldiMac]

Why would you need to backup on a daily basis? Calendar, contact, and email is all saved on Google automatically, it's not like I need a backup of my text messages for the one in many thousand chance my iPhone is going to randomly die tomorrow. I like having a backup, but there's just nothing critical on there. Maybe photos, but the good ones I upload to Dropbox or Facebook anyways, as I took them with a purpose in mind.

Great points! Nobody could possibly have anything important on their iPhone or iPad other than calendar, contacts and email! (And possibly photos as you point out, but doing something automatically that could be done manually in several steps is completely useless.)

There is no reason to have iCloud sync calendar, contacts, and email, as it is already done through Exchange when you set up your GMail account on your iPhone. It's useful functionality, but not for iCloud to do it. That sort of thing is old news. I don't even think iCloud would work with Google, as you'd end up with some sort of weird circular sync.

Google already does those things better, there is no reason to do a piss poor job at re-inventing the wheel.

I knew you'd come up with something! Obviously, everyone uses Google for those things. I don't know why I didn't think of that completely fabricated claim!