iTunes 4.7.1 only allows 5 connections per day.

Sharewaredemon

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Hi, I live in a residence in a university campus and all of my friends have iTunes as I convinced them to download it. Quite a community has grown during the course of the school year, and there are quite a few who really enjoy the sharing feature. Unfourtunalty I discovered that with the latest version of iTunes (4.7.1) instead of the limitations of connected users being 5 at a time. It is now 5 per day. This means that if you connect to someones music, then disconnect, and 4 other do that (there are 18 people on right now, but more than that in total) no one else will be able to connect to that person till the end of the day.

The feature of sharing is quite convienent when it comes to living in residence, especially when you want to show people some new band you've discovered and whatnot. I do not like this this new limitation, and I am wondering if anyone can point me in the direction of iTunes 4.7, or if they have a copy they can send me.
 

Sharewaredemon

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Didn't work

It just sent me to the Apple.com/itunes site.

But I'm going to get a friend with a mac to send it to me. Is there still a way for me to do it on my own?
 

chameeeleon

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Wow - this bites! I hadn't discovered the 5 limit yet. I imagine it's pressure from the record labels, but still...
Grrr...
 

Sharewaredemon

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chameeeleon said:
Wow - this bites! I hadn't discovered the 5 limit yet. I imagine it's pressure from the record labels, but still...
Grrr...
Yeah I think Apples idea of "sharing" is within the household, as opposed to over a huge network. I wonder though if this can be hacked, because my friend changed his max number of connections to 10 on the old version. I wonder if you can take away this new "feature" (limiation).
 

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chameeeleon said:
Wow - this bites! I hadn't discovered the 5 limit yet. I imagine it's pressure from the record labels, but still...
Grrr...
Well, the "sharing" feature is supposed to be used at home (I guess). Isn't the maximum number of computers that can share purchased music limited to five too? In a household, you'd need more than five computers to actually discover such limit...

The sharing feature wasn't meant for college, offices, etc...

Not that I'll ever go over 5 computers sharing via iTunes anyway, but I imagine a few househoulds bumping into that limitation every few days. Perhaps Apple will ramp it up to, say, 10 computers? (Five is already high for a single family IMO).
 

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Yvan256 said:
Well, the "sharing" feature is supposed to be used at home (I guess). Isn't the maximum number of computers that can share purchased music limited to five too? In a household, you'd need more than five computers to actually discover such limit...

The sharing feature wasn't meant for college, offices, etc...

Not that I'll ever go over 5 computers sharing via iTunes anyway, but I imagine a few househoulds bumping into that limitation every few days. Perhaps Apple will ramp it up to, say, 10 computers? (Five is already high for a single family IMO).
While I agree with you're points, and I have thought of them myself, it is still a bother for my environment.
 

dotnina

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This is interesting, thanks for pointing it out. I don't share my music too often, but I'm just very curious about this:

Have you noticed if it's 5 connections per day, period? Or rather, is it connections from exactly 5 users, for an unlimited number of times throughout the day?

[In other words, if Bob was connected to your iTunes, and you went offline, but then came back online later so that Bob could connect to your iTunes again -- would that count as 1 or 2 connections?]
 

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dotnina said:
This is interesting, thanks for pointing it out. I don't share my music too often, but I'm just very curious about this:

Have you noticed if it's 5 connections per day, period? Or rather, is it connections from exactly 5 users, for an unlimited number of times throughout the day?

[In other words, if Bob was connected to your iTunes, and you went offline, but then came back online later so that Bob could connect to your iTunes again -- would that count as 1 or 2 connections?]
It is 5 users with unlimited connections. So Bob could connect at the beggining of the day, and then would be guaranteed a connection for the rest of the day.
 

Yvan256

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Sharewaredemon said:
I don't disagree, but for the way the people in my residence have grown accoustomed to being able to access their music from anywhere in the res it can be a nuisance.
Well, that "feature" doesn't sound Apple-like (hey, let's bug down our users!)

Looks like another feature implemented by Apple, courtesy of "your friendly folks at the RIAA" (tm). :D
 

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Yvan256 said:
Well, that "feature" doesn't sound Apple-like (hey, let's bug down our users!)

Looks like another feature implemented by Apple, courtesy of "your friendly folks at the RIAA" (tm). :D
Just incase you wanted to know to get a tm as an actual character, hold option and press 2
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Oh yeah, and I think you are right here, as maybe the RIAA feels that people might find I way to pirate the music from each other and turn places like my residence into little P2Ps.
 

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Sharewaredemon said:
Oh yeah, and I think you are right here, as maybe the RIAA feels that people might find I way to pirate the music from each other and turn places like my residence into little P2Ps.
There are easier ways to pirate music than to try and crack iTunes :rolleyes:

If indeed it is the RIAA, it's too bad Apple needed to make such concessions to them (probably as a part of continuing iTMS operations). And it's almost worse that Apple didn't mention that part in the upgrade (I haven't installed the upgrade yet).
 

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emw said:
There are easier ways to pirate music than to try and crack iTunes :rolleyes:

If indeed it is the RIAA, it's too bad Apple needed to make such concessions to them (probably as a part of continuing iTMS operations). And it's almost worse that Apple didn't mention that part in the upgrade (I haven't installed the upgrade yet).

Yeah the fact that it wasn't mentioned in the update bothers me too. As I was having trouble connecting to my music from other peoples dorm rooms and I didn't figure out why untill I installed the new version on someone elses computer.
 

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I wondered why it was saying it could not accept any more connections at this time...... its is really bad... because families tend to have more than one computer...

Lukily I've kept the older setup files!

Time to block my bro & sister from downloading itunes i think
 

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Wow

Thanks for the heads up. It really does not bother me too much except for the few occations where I connect and disconnect several times a day (bathroom breaks) on campus. Besides, if I understand correctly a person can only listen to others music and are not able to copy them over the network, right? or wrong?

Like I said it does not really bother me too much.
 

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garybUK said:
I wondered why it was saying it could not accept any more connections at this time...... its is really bad... because families tend to have more than one computer...

Lukily I've kept the older setup files!

Time to block my bro & sister from downloading itunes i think
Which is why Apple set the limit to 5 people connecting each day, and this goes by computer, not connections, so you can connect and disconnect as many times as you want from one computer. Unless 5 people have connected before you.
 

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joepunk said:
Wow

Thanks for the heads up. It really does not bother me too much except for the few occations where I connect and disconnect several times a day (bathroom breaks) on campus. Besides, if I understand correctly a person can only listen to others music and are not able to copy them over the network, right? or wrong?

Like I said it does not really bother me too much.
Correct you can only listen, and not copy. Also these bathroom breaks will not matter, as if you have gained a connection, at one point during the day you will be guaranteed a connection throughout the day.
 

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Sharewaredemon said:
Just incase you wanted to know to get a tm as an actual character, hold option and press 2
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There's no "option" key on my keyboard. :D

Sharewaredemon said:
Oh yeah, and I think you are right here, as maybe the RIAA feels that people might find I way to pirate the music from each other and turn places like my residence into little P2Ps.
The fact that colleges use iTunes as huge personnal jukeboxes might have something to do with it... (next thing you know, they'll have us implented with radio receivers and music will be radio only... Don't have the license for the song? You won't hear it!)
 

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garybUK said:
I wondered why it was saying it could not accept any more connections at this time...... its is really bad... because families tend to have more than one computer...

Lukily I've kept the older setup files!

Time to block my bro & sister from downloading itunes i think
You have more than five computers with iTunes installed at home? :confused:
 

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Yvan256 said:
There's no "option" key on my keyboard. :D
:confused:
Windows, I take it? We'll pray for you... :p

Although I haven't hit a limitation like that yet, it is still a pain know it is there. I hope I don't have to deal with it... or that Apple changes it....

~mutters something about the RIAA~
 

Timelessblur

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well this is going to hurt itunes here at my school. Part of the reason it was spreading was people like accessing some of the larger libairy to listen to the music.

I can only see the people on my subnetwork (which pretty much is just my dorm) but it still grew from about 4 of us to a 8-16 people depending on who gets on. Plus there are people who I know who dont share.

A vasit majoring of them dont know how to download music from otherpeople libary so I dont see that being a problem.

Well Apple thank you for becoming even more like the RIAA and doing what ever they want you to do.
 

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Timelessblur said:
Well Apple thank you for becoming even more like the RIAA and doing what ever they want you to do.
They more than likely were pressured by the RIAA to change the limits.