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iTunes 7.4.1 Update Released
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Hey that's a good point.
Wow, Apple didn't waste any time with that update.
YOU CAN STILL MAKE CUSTOM RINGTONES WITH iTUNES 7.4.1 (2)!
The guy above me is right. I wrote this out for the IGN Boards just a second ago. I believe I typed it out correctly. I may have made a mistake, though. All I know is that I have been making ringtones on 7.4.1 (2) for about 20 minutes now...and it works fine. If something goes wrong when you follow the following procedure... tell me. I will see if I can correct it.
--To get ringtones on 7.4.1 (2)--
Create a song clip within iTunes, or however you wish to do it. Personally, I just click Get Info > Options and determine my own Start and Stop times. Then, I click Advanced > Convert Selection to AAC. After the clip is created, go back and remove the start/stop times on the original song. Reveal the newly formed clip in Finder. Copy the clip, and paste it onto the desktop (I suppose it really doesn't matter where, though). Right click > Get Info > change the extension to M4R. Open the .M4R file with iTunes.
Now, open a new window for Finder. Make your way to iTunes Music/Ringtones. The new M4R clip should be there. Just change the extension to .M4A, and sync it with your iPhone.
You can go back and delete the first clip you made, and go ahead and throw the file away as well. It will not do anything to your ringtone.
I've already done this a few times with the absolute latest version of iTunes. So, if you have the latest version...you aren't SOL...
The guy above me is right. I wrote this out for the IGN Boards just a second ago. I believe I typed it out correctly. I may have made a mistake, though. All I know is that I have been making ringtones on 7.4.1 (2) for about 20 minutes now...and it works fine. If something goes wrong when you follow the following procedure... tell me. I will see if I can correct it.
--To get ringtones on 7.4.1 (2)--
Create a song clip within iTunes, or however you wish to do it. Personally, I just click Get Info > Options and determine my own Start and Stop times. Then, I click Advanced > Convert Selection to AAC. After the clip is created, go back and remove the start/stop times on the original song. Reveal the newly formed clip in Finder. Copy the clip, and paste it onto the desktop (I suppose it really doesn't matter where, though). Right click > Get Info > change the extension to M4R. Open the .M4R file with iTunes.
Now, open a new window for Finder. Make your way to iTunes Music/Ringtones. The new M4R clip should be there. Just change the extension to .M4A, and sync it with your iPhone.
You can go back and delete the first clip you made, and go ahead and throw the file away as well. It will not do anything to your ringtone.
I've already done this a few times with the absolute latest version of iTunes. So, if you have the latest version...you aren't SOL...
By having it as ringtone on a device you carry in public, it counts as public playing. On every audio CD or DVD, it says you are not allowed to publically play the content on the disc. WHen buying a ringtone, you buy a license to play the few second part of that song.
Working here too. Same process as yesterday under 7.4.0, just change the extension the file in the /Ringtones directory to m4a as the last step.
Also the files that I had already been using continued to work just by changing the extension. Several of them were iTunes Music Store 30 second previews I had previously downloaded from the pre-7.4.0 days.
While I'm glad you can read the notice on your DVD, let's be real here. Public performance would designate me standing in the middle of Times Square going,"OOOOO, everybody, look at my ringtone that I created!" However, a ringtone that I create for MY phone to notify ME to pick it up is hardly considered a public performance. Secondly, this whole having to buy the song on iTunes thing is ridiculous. What if I already purchased the CD and ripped it to my iTunes? Under fair use, I'm entitled to copy the piece for my personal use. And although you may think a ringtone is public use, it's not; it's just another tactic by the record industry to keep themselves from sinking and to keep raping the artists that give them good musical content to exploit.
/rant
By your argument, listening to music off a CD in your car with the windows down is "public playing" and would be illegal, which is simply not true.
The "public performance" is meant to keep you from taking the CD or movie and playing it in a setting where you charge money. If you were to have "movie night" at your home, and charge 50 cents to all your neighbors to come in, then you would be breaking the law. If you invited the neighbors over for "movie night" and charged them nothing, then you are in the clear. You may or may not be OK to have them supply the snacks.
Fair use is all about what is allowed and what is not. It covers things like taking clips of the movie, song, whatever, and using it as part of your new product, such as a review. You can sell your review of a movie, for example, complete with clips from the movie. You have to pay nothing to the movie studio to do this.
Ringtones are no different from the other examples. You you want to play a song for your own enjoyment when someone calls you, you are free to do this. It no different than listening to a song only when you are with your girlfriend/boyfriend.
I may not be a lawyer, but this issue is important to me, so I have researched it. I wold still need a lawyer to argue it in a court of law.
-jt2
Wow... that is a TON of work to get a ringtone on your phone.
I've got a better idea.
Open Audio Hijack, click Hijack iTunes, ... visit iTunes Store... double click on the previews of the songs you want... drag the newly created aac files into iFuntastic... DONE!
How do I delete the ringtones?
hey guys, thanks for your help. This way of changing m4r to m4a does the job.
I added a bunch of them and I can't find a way to delete them from iTunes.
It doesn't even show up in search.
Can anyone help me? I have way too many ringtones
hey guys, thanks for your help. This way of changing m4r to m4a does the job.
I added a bunch of them and I can't find a way to delete them from iTunes.
It doesn't even show up in search.
Can anyone help me? I have way too many ringtones
^^Actually the process is quite simple....and so we've concluded making ringtones from your music is not illegal.....what if its music your "borrowed" say from limewire? Are we reaching that point of illegality? if thats even a word?
Wow... that is a TON of work to get a ringtone on your phone.
I've got a better idea.
Open Audio Hijack, click Hijack iTunes, ... visit iTunes Store... double click on the previews of the songs you want... drag the newly created aac files into iFuntastic... DONE!
Only problem is if they don't preview the bit of the song that you want. And I'll bet they usually don't!
But don't you have to buy Audio Hijack?** So why not go with Ambrosia's solution? For the princely sum of $15?
I do have to say the rather strange situation of people who can shell out $100s for a phone, then complain that they can't get free ringtones, puzzles me somewhat!
** Ahh, I see, Audio Hijack demo, only puts an audio spoiler on the audio after 10 mins, so fine for Ringtones!
Clever!
Hojo--
The only way currently to remove ringtones from the iPhone tab is by recreating your library:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=93313
Shaq:
Not trying to be obnoxious here, but the price of the ringtones is probably not the primary issue for most folks, I know it's not for me. I find it extremely unlikely that one of the iTunes store's 500k ringtones will be that of my two youngest kids laughing and yelling "Daddy, pick up the phone."
I'm pretty sure I have the rights to that particular sound, and am baffled why I can't easily add it to my device, which I also own.
The only way currently to remove ringtones from the iPhone tab is by recreating your library:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=93313
Shaq:
Not trying to be obnoxious here, but the price of the ringtones is probably not the primary issue for most folks, I know it's not for me. I find it extremely unlikely that one of the iTunes store's 500k ringtones will be that of my two youngest kids laughing and yelling "Daddy, pick up the phone."
I'm pretty sure I have the rights to that particular sound, and am baffled why I can't easily add it to my device, which I also own.
Considering you can do this on MICROSOFT's Windows Mobile phones and pretty much every other phone you can apply any sound as a ringtone, really makes Apple look bad. Of course the Apple shills will put the blame on the record companies...yet how come it's fine with every other phone yet not Apple's device?
I'm pretty sure it also kills CoverScout somehow. I'd been using CoverScout for an hour or so to find artwork for my library in advance of the iPod touch arriving, and for some reason it suddenly stopped being able to display the artwork I already had. It didn't have a problem with that earlier.
I can't be sure, but I think this happened right after I downloaded 7.4.1, which happened this afternoon while I was working with CoverScout.
The artwork is all still there and attached correctly in iTunes, but it won't display at all in CoverScout.
I can't be sure, but I think this happened right after I downloaded 7.4.1, which happened this afternoon while I was working with CoverScout.
The artwork is all still there and attached correctly in iTunes, but it won't display at all in CoverScout.
35mb: 34mb to much
Could apple please start by just updating files they changed.
This is irritating.
Also irritating is that you have to accept the terms every time.
APPLE: Just tell me what changed. This sucks
Could apple please start by just updating files they changed.
This is irritating.
Also irritating is that you have to accept the terms every time.
APPLE: Just tell me what changed. This sucks
I will bet that we will see 7.4.2 by at least Tuesday now with that one can just change the extension back.
Well, 99¢ is pretty reasonable for a ringtone, considering that they're almost $4 each for my current phone. Still, Apple shouldn't come and ruin the fun.
No, it isn't reasonable. They're charging you another $1 to copy data YOU OWN from the computer YOU OWN to the cellphone YOU OWN. I love Apple too, which is exactly why I was expecting them to do this whole cellphone thing better than the other companies. They've improved a few aspects of the process, but they're being just as stupid with ringtones as the other companies.
Actually, I guess as long as there are suckers who are willing to pay for a low-quality sample of a song to be a ringtone, even when they already own the song, Apple and the other cellphone companies aren't really the ones being stupid.
Wow... that is a TON of work to get a ringtone on your phone.
I've got a better idea.
Open Audio Hijack, click Hijack iTunes, ... visit iTunes Store... double click on the previews of the songs you want... drag the newly created aac files into iFuntastic... DONE!
I just added a ringtone more easily:
I already had an MP3 ringtone from a personally recorded song (so no copyright issues) for my old RAZR.
I used "advanced" to convert it to AAC so that the M4A file appeared in my directory (under Unknown artists at it turns out). Then I used "get info" on that file directly in my iTunes directory to change the extension to M4R. Then I quit and restarted iTunes, and now the M4R file apprears as "protected AAC Audio File."
I plugged in my iPhone, and looked at the ringtones tab, and sure enough, the M4R file was listed and I synced "checked songs" and it appears on my iPhone and works as a ring tone.
The old 7.4 hack no longer works: if you change a M4A extension outside of iTunes to M4R, then iTunes will not import it.
Eddie O
EDIT: well, it's not a simple as that. I tried it with another song which was not in "unknown," and it is not seen as a ringtone. I also don't see a "ringtone" folder in the iTunes library. Hmmmm.
I don't know what the new trick is: I only got the one ringtone to work; all others resist appearing in the "ringtone" list.
Me too! We need a Safari 3.1 stable release preferably or another beta update (3.0.4)
Confused
Ed...
No offense, but your approach confuses me a bit, as does your statement that, "if you change a M4A extension outside of iTunes to M4R, then iTunes will not import it."
That has not be the experience of most folks.
Try these steps and see if they work for you:
1. Confirm iTunes is set to import to AAC 128
2. If the "to-be" rington is not currently AAC, convert it by right clicking
3. Delete the new aac file from the library ONLY
4. Locate the file and Move it to your desktop
5. Rename the file from xxxx.m4a to xxxx.m4r
6. Double Click on the file
6a. Delete the xxxx.m4r file from Desktop
7. Return to iTunes and confirm it is now in the iPhone ringtones tab, but no not Sync
*** Note: If you are using 7.4.0, skip to step 10 ***
8. Locate the file in your iTunes Music/Ringtones Directory
9. Rename file from xxxx.m4r to xxxx.m4a
10. Sync!!! All should be well.
As an aside, if you are using a mac, some have reported problems if you simply "change the name" to m4r. If you move it to your desktop, you still must use get-info to change the extension. Not being a mac guy...i'm not sure what all that means...but it seems that under OS X, the extensions are largely hidden and that changing the file's name would simply resultin name.m4r.m4a which would likely be a mess. The same is true in windows if you haven't turned off "Hide known extensions."
Ed...
No offense, but your approach confuses me a bit, as does your statement that, "if you change a M4A extension outside of iTunes to M4R, then iTunes will not import it."
That has not be the experience of most folks.
Try these steps and see if they work for you:
1. Confirm iTunes is set to import to AAC 128
2. If the "to-be" rington is not currently AAC, convert it by right clicking
3. Delete the new aac file from the library ONLY
4. Locate the file and Move it to your desktop
5. Rename the file from xxxx.m4a to xxxx.m4r
6. Double Click on the file
6a. Delete the xxxx.m4r file from Desktop
7. Return to iTunes and confirm it is now in the iPhone ringtones tab, but no not Sync
*** Note: If you are using 7.4.0, skip to step 10 ***
8. Locate the file in your iTunes Music/Ringtones Directory
9. Rename file from xxxx.m4r to xxxx.m4a
10. Sync!!! All should be well.
As an aside, if you are using a mac, some have reported problems if you simply "change the name" to m4r. If you move it to your desktop, you still must use get-info to change the extension. Not being a mac guy...i'm not sure what all that means...but it seems that under OS X, the extensions are largely hidden and that changing the file's name would simply resultin name.m4r.m4a which would likely be a mess. The same is true in windows if you haven't turned off "Hide known extensions."